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Unread 01-29-2013, 05:38 PM   #16
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That being said, there are many great steels out there, and they can be either stamped or forged, that will be amazing knives. I just recently got a great little Tosagata knife from Tosa, Japan, it is a forge welded Hitachi white steel, inside of a Japanese black iron sheath. And it it a great little trimming and fruit knife. Under $100 too.
I recently bought two Tosagatas from Toso, one a Santoku and the other a Nakiri, both of which are certainally are a lot of knife for the money as landarc says.
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Landarc You and HeSmellsLikeSmoke got me looking at the Tasagato knives and I think I will order a 7 1/2 Satsuma, it seem to be a good all round knife. In addition I am going to order the stone Bucc recommended and go from there. Next I don't really have a steel worth a darn, but I do have a diamond steel, do you or anyone else have a recommendation for one?
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Unread 01-30-2013, 09:06 PM   #18
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I've never used a tosagata Mo Dave, but I know the Hitachi white is a very good steel, and I'd choose it over the steel used in your first choice of knife.
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I have a wusthof bread knife. Would it do a good job on a brisket?
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I've never used a tosagata Mo Dave, but I know the Hitachi white is a very good steel, and I'd choose it over the steel used in your first choice of knife.
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Bucc, I looked around a bit but did not find anything in a price range I can do at this time. Do you have a name brand or site suggestion?
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Just today I received Fujiwara FKM stainless and Tojiro DP 21cm gyutos. I haven't had a chance to put them through their paces yet, but I'm really digging this Fujiwara. I should have a 24 cm knife coming later this week, and something tells me that I'm really going to like that, but I've been building up to it from an 8" chef's for some time. On the other hand, I've been using a Shun 18cm gyuto for the last few weeks, and it's been every bit as useful as my 8" Wusthof, even though I'd like something bigger.

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You can check out Japanese Knife Imports. The have a lot of variety in what they are importing and Jon is quite knowledgeable on his products. I bought one from him and am thinking about a knife for wide fish filets...

http://www.japaneseknifeimports.com/
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You can check out Japanese Knife Imports. The have a lot of variety in what they are importing and Jon is quite knowledgeable on his products. I bought one from him and am thinking about a knife for wide fish filets...

http://www.japaneseknifeimports.com/
Thanks Marty, I now have it bookmarked and will give it a look.
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The only reason I haven't been posting advice is because I am not sure of what you are looking for Mo Dave.
What will the knife be used for, what jobs will it do?
Budget?
Do you ant people to gasp and go"ooooh wow" when they see it?
I'm not kidding, that is very important for a lot of knife buyers, don't be shy about what you want!
Do you want a mix of beauty and efficiency or would you rather a dedicated design that is purely functional?
Rounded handle or rectangular, any preference?
All things are possible.
I have two excellent high carbon knives I bought for TFO, under 9 bucks with plastic handles( I bought them over the counter in Japan) and they are remarkably good.
Same itch penguin and kiwi brands, good disposable choices.
Just let me know and I'll try to be helpful
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Just today I received Fujiwara FKM stainless and Tojiro DP 21cm gyutos. I haven't had a chance to put them through their paces yet, but I'm really digging this Fujiwara. I should have a 24 cm knife coming later this week, and something tells me that I'm really going to like that, but I've been building up to it from an 8" chef's for some time. On the other hand, I've been using a Shun 18cm gyuto for the last few weeks, and it's been every bit as useful as my 8" Wusthof, even though I'd like something bigger.

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I liked the brief exposure I had to tojiro knives and would like a review when you have given them a thorough run!
Reviews of all these knives are definitely forthcoming. Patience.

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interesting cant wait for some reviews
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The only reason I haven't been posting advice is because I am not sure of what you are looking for Mo Dave.
What will the knife be used for, what jobs will it do?
Budget?
Do you ant people to gasp and go"ooooh wow" when they see it?
I'm not kidding, that is very important for a lot of knife buyers, don't be shy about what you want!
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Rounded handle or rectangular, any preference?
All things are possible.
I have two excellent high carbon knives I bought for TFO, under 9 bucks with plastic handles( I bought them over the counter in Japan) and they are remarkably good.
Same itch penguin and kiwi brands, good disposable choices.
Just let me know and I'll try to be helpful
Bucc I already bought the 7 1/2 Satsuma knife-tosagata. It is a white steel base knife but I do not know of what quality. It is a cheap knife at 37.00 so I am not really expecting high quality, and as much as I would love to someday own a beautiful high end knife it is just not in the cards at this time. Just looking for an all around utility, at this time. This should give me an idea if I like this type of knives and if I mite order more of a higher quality sometime. I also ordered the stone you posted about a few day ago, and now am looking for recommendations for a sharpening steel. Here is the site I got the knife from.
http://www.japanwoodworker.com/dept....&dept_id=13198


On a different note, this should make some get a snicker. I went totally redneck by taking an old Lansky sharpening set and turned it into a makeshift Wicked Edge. Mounted the clamping jaws up right to a block of wood, with the angle guides on either side, this is attached to a stand tall enough for the rods to move up and down without hitting the base.

I used this last night on a couple knives, I only have one set of stones so I can only do one side at a time and that is fine, then I finished them with a leather strop on a belt sander, with polishing past,and damn they are cutting hair with no problem. They are so sharp that when I cut into something like a tomato or grapefruit the blade wants to stick to the board which in this case is bamboo. If I can muster up some courage I may post a pic but I don't want to be a bad influence on others.
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Just today I received Fujiwara FKM stainless and Tojiro DP 21cm gyutos. I haven't had a chance to put them through their paces yet, but I'm really digging this Fujiwara. I should have a 24 cm knife coming later this week, and something tells me that I'm really going to like that, but I've been building up to it from an 8" chef's for some time. On the other hand, I've been using a Shun 18cm gyuto for the last few weeks, and it's been every bit as useful as my 8" Wusthof, even though I'd like something bigger.

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Post a pic of that Wicked Lansky, I would like to see what you did.

If you are going for sharp knives, may I suggest you look past bamboo, which is not that great, and consider Epicurean cutting boards. The handiest boards I know of, with a fast surface, great texture and dishwasher safe. Not too expensive either.
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