Biggest/most respected bbq comp? - Page 3

DawgPhan · 01-24-2013, 09:13 AM

royal jack mim

TooSaucedToPork · 01-24-2013, 10:14 AM

IMHO

Depends on the kind of BBQ you are cooking...

For Pork the most prestigous is Memphis in May as that is what MIM focuses on. Ribs, Shoulder, and Whole Hog. It is certified as the largest Pork BBQ Contest in the World. This make the winner of Memphis in May the World PORK BBQ Champion

For Brisket it is the Houston Rodeo. Nobody does Brisket like Texas and this is the biggest, baddest Comp in the Lonestar State. You win this and you are the KING of Beef BBQ.

For KCBS it is the Royal. As KCBS is a style adapted all over the USA due to it being the premeire and most used sanctioning organization, this means you are the top amongst 5500+ BBQ Teams in the organization. You are the KCBS World Champion

Now that brings me to the Jack. The winner of MIM is invited to the Jack, the winner of the Royal is invited to the Jack, pretty much gotta be a Grand Champion at one (more times than most many) regional contests. Since the Jack is, unlike the Royal, composed of winning teams from different sanctioning organizations besides KCBS, I would argue that this makes the Jack Grand Champion the Overall BBQ World Champion as you have to be able to cook many styles of BBQ well in order to win.

Like I said, Just my view

Neil

Scottie · 01-24-2013, 10:50 AM

The winner of Houston Rodeo is also invited to the Jack.

Bourbon Barrel BBQ · 01-24-2013, 11:54 AM

We've had an AR invite several times and I have never bothered to go. I've never had my name called for the Jack and don't plan on turning it down WHEN it happens. Perspective.

Alexa RnQ · 01-24-2013, 12:39 PM

For us, always and only, the Jack.

We've qualified a number of ways: through the draw twice, through a one-and-done contest once, and twice by grinding out 7.

They may have taken years off my life, but I'd rather do those 7 years again than sit through another Draw Day.

Ryan Chester · 01-24-2013, 04:03 PM

AR as the largest for sure.

King of the Smoker as most prestigious. Yes the jack has 7 GC in 1 year guys but you can also get in by being lucky with 1 GC. Not to discount the difficulty in getting 1 GC but KOS is a more concentrated field of multiple GC winners who are hands down the best in the country. Not to mention the location/amenities being second to none!

boogiesnap · 01-24-2013, 06:47 PM

i can see that^^^^.

i suppose it might be all relative like most things.

if i told someone i won the jack, MIM, or royal

, they'd probably know what i meant. king of smokers, unlikely, despite it's prestige within our circle.

TooSaucedToPork · 01-24-2013, 07:38 PM

Really??? King of Smokers, Sam's, World Food Championships??

Not to disrespect people's opinions but, they've only been around a couple years. You'll find just as many (if not more) teams with amazing track records at the Jack, MIM, and the Royal.

Not to discount those contests, but the prestige of contests is built by the skill of the teams competing AND age. In order of oldest to youngest: The Houston Rodeo, Memphis in May, the Royal, and the Jack are BBQ institutions...that creates prestige.

Wait ten years and ask this question again...I bet you ten bucks the four listed above will still be around, and still be considered the most prestigious in BBQ, where as many of the others; Sam's, World Food, King of Smokers...will be in the ash pan. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see them lasting the decades the Legendary 4 have.

Lake Dogs · 01-25-2013, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TooSaucedToPork

IMHO

Depends on the kind of BBQ you are cooking...

For Pork the most prestigous is Memphis in May as that is what MIM focuses on. Ribs, Shoulder, and Whole Hog. It is certified as the largest Pork BBQ Contest in the World. This make the winner of Memphis in May the World PORK BBQ Champion

For Brisket it is the Houston Rodeo. Nobody does Brisket like Texas and this is the biggest, baddest Comp in the Lonestar State. You win this and you are the KING of Beef BBQ.

For KCBS it is the Royal. As KCBS is a style adapted all over the USA due to it being the premeire and most used sanctioning organization, this means you are the top amongst 5500+ BBQ Teams in the organization. You are the KCBS World Champion

Now that brings me to the Jack. The winner of MIM is invited to the Jack, the winner of the Royal is invited to the Jack, pretty much gotta be a Grand Champion at one (more times than most many) regional contests. Since the Jack is, unlike the Royal, composed of winning teams from different sanctioning organizations besides KCBS, I would argue that this makes the Jack Grand Champion the Overall BBQ World Champion as you have to be able to cook many styles of BBQ well in order to win.

Like I said, Just my view

Neil

Neil, I was trying to find a way to apply the appropriate perspective on each of them, and darned if you didnt do it (above).

+1

Careful though; you may accidentally lift a few folks' blinders.

Scottie · 01-25-2013, 08:25 AM

Ronnie Cates was claiming a few years ago his contest was going to be bigger than All of them. Last I checked, the Big 4 are still there. And by no means is this any disrespect to those other contests that folks claim.

Meat@Slim's · 01-25-2013, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Chester

AR as the largest for sure.

King of the Smoker as most prestigious. Yes the jack has 7 GC in 1 year guys but you can also get in by being lucky with 1 GC. Not to discount the difficulty in getting 1 GC but KOS is a more concentrated field of multiple GC winners who are hands down the best in the country. Not to mention the location/amenities being second to none!

So how do you qualify or get invited to KOS?

Seems to me the most elite to qualify for and then get invited to is the Jack.

JD McGee · 01-25-2013, 09:16 AM

Biggest...The American Royal...
Most respected...The Jack...
Most sought after invitation...King Of The Smoker...

In my humble opinion...

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Rich Parker · 01-25-2013, 09:43 AM

I have a hard time seeing prestige in an event that does not have published rules on how to get in.

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DawgPhan · 01-25-2013, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD McGee

Biggest...The American Royal...
Most respected...The Jack...
Most sought after invitation...King Of The Smoker...

In my humble opinion...

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I have never once heard anyone talk about trying to get an invite to the King Of Smokers contest. I am glad you guys all had a great time at the event.

Smokedelic · 01-25-2013, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DawgPhan

I have never once heard anyone talk about trying to get an invite to the King Of Smokers contest. I am glad you guys all had a great time at the event.

Trust me, they'll talk about it now...

01-24-2013, 10:14 AM	#32
TooSaucedToPork Take a breath! Join Date: 09-23-09 Location: Buffalo NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	IMHO Depends on the kind of BBQ you are cooking... For Pork the most prestigous is Memphis in May as that is what MIM focuses on. Ribs, Shoulder, and Whole Hog. It is certified as the largest Pork BBQ Contest in the World. This make the winner of Memphis in May the World PORK BBQ Champion For Brisket it is the Houston Rodeo. Nobody does Brisket like Texas and this is the biggest, baddest Comp in the Lonestar State. You win this and you are the KING of Beef BBQ. For KCBS it is the Royal. As KCBS is a style adapted all over the USA due to it being the premeire and most used sanctioning organization, this means you are the top amongst 5500+ BBQ Teams in the organization. You are the KCBS World Champion Now that brings me to the Jack. The winner of MIM is invited to the Jack, the winner of the Royal is invited to the Jack, pretty much gotta be a Grand Champion at one (more times than most many) regional contests. Since the Jack is, unlike the Royal, composed of winning teams from different sanctioning organizations besides KCBS, I would argue that this makes the Jack Grand Champion the Overall BBQ World Champion as you have to be able to cook many styles of BBQ well in order to win. Like I said, Just my view Neil __________________ "We're a drinking team...with a BBQ problem" http://www.toosaucedtopork.com

01-24-2013, 10:50 AM	#33
Scottie Babbling Farker Join Date: 11-03-06 Location: Chi-Town Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The winner of Houston Rodeo is also invited to the Jack. __________________ cancersuckschicago.com FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA BBQ TOUR Red Jambo one off FE 100 FEC 100 WSM Homer Simpson 22 " Weber Kettle Red 18 1/2" Weber Kettle Black 26 3/4" Weber Kettle

01-24-2013, 11:54 AM	#34
Bourbon Barrel BBQ is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 06-27-10 Location: Louisville, KY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We've had an AR invite several times and I have never bothered to go. I've never had my name called for the Jack and don't plan on turning it down WHEN it happens. Perspective. __________________ www.bourbonbarrelbbq.com

01-24-2013, 12:39 PM	#35
Alexa RnQ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 09-12-07 Location: the Ninth Ring of Hell, cleverly disguised as Phoenix Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	For us, always and only, the Jack. We've qualified a number of ways: through the draw twice, through a one-and-done contest once, and twice by grinding out 7. They may have taken years off my life, but I'd rather do those 7 years again than sit through another Draw Day. __________________ . . Don't practice until you get it right; practice until you can't get it wrong. Don't overthink or undercook. Rhythm 'n QUE

01-24-2013, 04:03 PM	#36
Ryan Chester is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 02-06-09 Location: Orange County, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	AR as the largest for sure. King of the Smoker as most prestigious. Yes the jack has 7 GC in 1 year guys but you can also get in by being lucky with 1 GC. Not to discount the difficulty in getting 1 GC but KOS is a more concentrated field of multiple GC winners who are hands down the best in the country. Not to mention the location/amenities being second to none! __________________ Ryan Chester - The Rub Company & Smoqued California BBQ

01-24-2013, 09:13 AM	#31
DawgPhan is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-09-07 Location: Atlanta, Ga Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	royal jack mim

01-24-2013, 06:47 PM	#37
boogiesnap Babbling Farker Join Date: 04-22-10 Location: NEW ENGLAND Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i can see that^^^^. i suppose it might be all relative like most things. if i told someone i won the jack, MIM, or royal, they'd probably know what i meant. king of smokers, unlikely, despite it's prestige within our circle. __________________ S'mo Q Competition BBQ Team Q so good you gotta have s'mo. Sponsored by Oakridge BBQ twin WSM 22.5's 48" DCS gasser certified MOINK baller farkanaut in training avatar by grillman CLICK HERE to visit the BBQ Brethren Throwdowns

01-24-2013, 07:38 PM	#38
TooSaucedToPork Take a breath! Join Date: 09-23-09 Location: Buffalo NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Really??? King of Smokers, Sam's, World Food Championships?? Not to disrespect people's opinions but, they've only been around a couple years. You'll find just as many (if not more) teams with amazing track records at the Jack, MIM, and the Royal. Not to discount those contests, but the prestige of contests is built by the skill of the teams competing AND age. In order of oldest to youngest: The Houston Rodeo, Memphis in May, the Royal, and the Jack are BBQ institutions...that creates prestige. Wait ten years and ask this question again...I bet you ten bucks the four listed above will still be around, and still be considered the most prestigious in BBQ, where as many of the others; Sam's, World Food, King of Smokers...will be in the ash pan. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see them lasting the decades the Legendary 4 have. __________________ "We're a drinking team...with a BBQ problem" http://www.toosaucedtopork.com

01-25-2013, 08:25 AM	#40
Scottie Babbling Farker Join Date: 11-03-06 Location: Chi-Town Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ronnie Cates was claiming a few years ago his contest was going to be bigger than All of them. Last I checked, the Big 4 are still there. And by no means is this any disrespect to those other contests that folks claim. __________________ cancersuckschicago.com FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA BBQ TOUR Red Jambo one off FE 100 FEC 100 WSM Homer Simpson 22 " Weber Kettle Red 18 1/2" Weber Kettle Black 26 3/4" Weber Kettle

01-25-2013, 09:16 AM	#42
JD McGee somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 06-28-07 Location: Duvall, WA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Biggest...The American Royal... Most respected...The Jack... Most sought after invitation...King Of The Smoker... In my humble opinion... Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ Wine Country "Q" Competition BBQ

01-25-2013, 09:43 AM	#43
Rich Parker Babbling Farker Join Date: 06-20-09 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have a hard time seeing prestige in an event that does not have published rules on how to get in. Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 __________________ WSM and UDS - iBQ'n BBQ Team owner TheBBQSuperstore.com