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Unread 01-21-2013, 07:23 AM   #16
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Actually, mutton was first cooked in Kentucky by Virginians. Two Virginia families moved west to Kentucky and cooked a mutton served with peach syrup in 1805. They were the families of Abraham Lincoln's parents. BBQ mutton was the meat served at Abraham Lincoln's parent's wedding. Until 1792, Kentucky was actually Kentucky County, VA.

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How exactly does this article prove that this was the first time ever that mutton, or "sheep", was cooked in what is now known as Kentucky?
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It proves that it's the oldest first hand account of it happening in an affidavit.
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It proves that it's the oldest first hand account of it happening in an affidavit.
Uh the scots and welsh settled into KY long before 1805. I assure you sheep and whiskey were integral parts of the landscape by then.
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I will have to say that this episode was my least favorite this year.. Dont think im a huge mutton fan


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Something I haven't heard mentioned yet. K.I.S.S. stole the show! NO RUB, NO INJECTIONS just Heat & Meat with a simple sauce. Even Mr 200 step process Mixon was impressed. Makes me wonder what if all competitors on the various circuits developed that same attitude toward turn ins.......?
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I've never done mutton, but my wife and I love lamb. The last lamb ribs I made were really good. My wife says she likes them better than baby back/spare ribs.

I see a smoked leg of lamb in my future.
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Uh the scots and welsh settled into KY long before 1805. I assure you sheep and whiskey were integral parts of the landscape by then.
Was it Kentucky that they settled in and please share the earlier reference to mutton BBQ in "Kentucky" than the 1805 one. Seriously, teach me.
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Was it Kentucky that they settled in and please share the earlier reference to mutton BBQ in "Kentucky" than the 1805 one. Seriously, teach me.
Because if I don't have a quick reference historical mutton document handy it didn't happen? The culture is known for sheep. They were in the area long before 1805. No need to be a history professor to realize they ate sheep long before 1805.
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Well, I offered a reference and, apparently, it didn't happen.

Was Kentucky known as Kentucky county, VA until 1792? So, did the scots and welsh settle Kentucky or Virginia?

Did the wool tarif of 1816 (11 years after 1805) have anything to do with the popularity of mutton in Kentucky?
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Thanks for the history lesson Bo. Great score on that old passage.
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Well, I offered a reference and, apparently, it didn't happen.

Was Kentucky known as Kentucky country, VA until 1792? So, did the scots and welsh settle Kentucky or Virginia?

Did the wool tarif of 1816 (11 years after 1805) have anything to do with the popularity of mutton in Kentucky?
Uh KY? I wouldn't say Kansas City is French BBQ because the geographical area was once part of the Louisiana Purchase. Perhaps you can find early reference to someone cooking a cow in Virginia and try and claim that for your state as well.
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Uh KY? I wouldn't say Kansas City is French BBQ because the geographical area was once part of the Louisiana Purchase. Perhaps you can find early reference to someone cooking a cow in Virginia and try and claim that for your state as well.
Well, at least I have a reference rather than a smart a** response.
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Well, at least I have a reference rather than a smart a** response.
Your reference has a passage about the race for the whiskey bottle in it as well. Perhaps Bourbon actually comes from Virginia not KY since it was technically KY Co. at one time.
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I think you are right!

Bourbon County, KY was formed on October 17, 1785 from sections of Fayette County, Virginia, and named after the French House of Bourbon, in gratitude for Louis XVI of France's assistance during the American Revolutionary War.

And, the creation of bourbon is credited by some historians to a Baptist minister, Reverend Elijah Craig. Reverend Craig allegedly began distilling the unique spirit dubbed bourbon but still known as corn whiskey, in the town of Royal Spring, Virginia (now known as Georgetown, Kentucky), in 1789.
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I think you are right!

Bourbon County, KY was formed on October 17, 1785 from sections of Fayette County, Virginia, and named after the French House of Bourbon, in gratitude for Louis XVI of France's assistance during the American Revolutionary War.

And, the creation of bourbon is credited by some historians to a Baptist minister, Reverend Elijah Craig. Reverend Craig allegedly began distilling the unique spirit dubbed bourbon but still known as corn whiskey, in the town of Royal Spring, Virginia (now known as Georgetown, Kentucky), in 1789.
You should inform your tourism board. I think some reprinted literature is in order.
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