Not Quite Kosher

Q Junkie · 01-18-2013, 12:36 AM

Well I was inspired by a post by wmrrock http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=151731 … about an exclusively Kosher BBQ Comp that got me thinking about something that has been bugging me for a while now. I have some of the best neighbors you could ask for and we get together and cook and hang out like most neighbors do, however my next door neighbor is Jewish and is not into the pork. They are not strictly Kosher, but I have no idea what is considered acceptable that I could BBQ besides straight up beef. I know that I could just ask him, but I would like to do something unexpected for them because they deserve it. I also want for it to have a distinct BBQ “theme”.

I would love to hear some ideas that I could use for our next Q .

Militant83 · 01-18-2013, 12:43 AM

Not sure how legit this is but a quick google search gave me this.... http://bbqjew.com/jewbecue/recipes/ although it deals with pork

Q Junkie · 01-18-2013, 12:51 AM

The pastrami is on the list but that is usually not a weekend cook.

Q Junkie · 01-18-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Militant83

Not sure how legit this is but a quick google search gave me this.... http://bbqjew.com/jewbecue/recipes/ although it deals with pork

Thanks, I will look through this.

I mean really, everyone cooked on fire 150 years ago so there must be some good recipes.

Militant83 · 01-18-2013, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Q Junkie

Thanks, I will look through this.

I mean really, everyone cooked on fire 150 years ago so there must be some good recipes.

You would think so

motoeric · 01-18-2013, 01:22 AM

Have you thought about chicken? How about beef ribs? I love smoked turkey.

If possible, you might want to get a new grate, so the food doesn't touch anything that has touched pork.

Eric

Q Junkie · 01-18-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by motoeric

Have you thought about chicken? How about beef ribs? I love smoked turkey.

If possible, you might want to get a new grate, so the food doesn't touch anything that has touched pork.

Eric

Well he is not strict Kosher, so I don't think that a separate cooking grate is necessary. I was just looking for some traditional Jewish recipes that have been adapted to a BBQ theme. I know he would be happy with beef ribs or any other traditional non-pork BBQ, but I just wanted to try something a little different.

gtr · 01-18-2013, 09:47 AM

This might be a good thing to look into. It's a dish called "tzimmes" (prnounced "simmus") and it's pretty dang good and might be interesting to adapt to BBQ, as brisket is involved. I haven't tried the particular recipe in the link, but just threw it in there as a starting point.

Mdboatbum · 01-18-2013, 09:53 AM

Serve calamari, sliced into rings. Then about halfway through the meal, say something like:
"Yeah, I met this guy through a friend. He's a kosher butcher or something. He gave this to me, said he always has a bunch left over from work. Said it's quite the delicacy where he comes from. Nice guy. Had a funny word for butcher, in Hebrew I guess. What was that word?.....Oh yeah, MOYLE!"
They'll LOVE that.
Or I guess you could just make a brisket. I've never met a Jew who'd turn down brisket.

dadsr4 · 01-18-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mdboatbum

Serve calamari, sliced into rings. Then about halfway through the meal, say something like:
"Yeah, I met this guy through a friend. He's a kosher butcher or something. He gave this to me, said he always has a bunch left over from work. Said it's quite the delicacy where he comes from. Nice guy. Had a funny word for butcher, in Hebrew I guess. What was that word?.....Oh yeah, MOYLE!"
They'll LOVE that.
Or I guess you could just make a brisket. I've never met a Jew who'd turn down brisket.

Be careful. Some "calamari" being sold is cut from Pork rectum.
http://www.food24.com/News-and-Guide...amari-20130118

cameraman · 01-18-2013, 10:48 AM

A lot of Jews of a certain age grew up in Conservative homes that were not kosher but who shunned pork out of habit (except for the occasional rasher of bacon.) I think it wouldn't hurt to chat them up and see what they're comfortable with. I don't think there's anything mysterious or exotic here.

Gore · 01-18-2013, 11:10 AM

You really need to ask and find out how strict they are. Some Jews require separate service plates for different food items. Others are extremely liberal. After my cousin's Bar Mitzvah, the rabbi organized the reception at Dinosaur BBQ for ribs. I think it also shows consideration to ask.

tish · 01-18-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gore

You really need to ask and find out how strict they are. Some Jews require separate service plates for different food items. Others are extremely liberal. After my cousin's Bar Mitzvah, the rabbi organized the reception at Dinosaur BBQ for ribs. I think it also shows consideration to ask.

It shows consideration to ask if your guests have any eating restrictions. Harvard is Jewish, but avoids both pork and beef for doctor recommended health reasons. My parents don't change the main course when we come over, if their plan was to serve something other than fish or fowl. But they do make sure there are plenty of other sides that he can feast on, and he's very content with that.

Stoke&Smoke · 01-18-2013, 10:41 PM

I work with a Jew who's had our brisket and loved it. And I believe it complies with what part of the animal it comes from. I doubt its strictly kosher,( I think that requires a certified kosher animal) but brisket is a common meal in many Jewish homes I believe

Bludawg · 01-18-2013, 11:14 PM

To be Kosher the animal has to be certified pure and blessed by a Rabi, it also has to do with the the way it is butchered. I used to raise Kosher Beef on contract. For the record I aint jewish.

01-18-2013, 12:36 AM	#1
Q Junkie On the road to being a farker Join Date: 07-07-12 Location: San Marcos, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not Quite Kosher Well I was inspired by a post by wmrrock http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=151731 … about an exclusively Kosher BBQ Comp that got me thinking about something that has been bugging me for a while now. I have some of the best neighbors you could ask for and we get together and cook and hang out like most neighbors do, however my next door neighbor is Jewish and is not into the pork. They are not strictly Kosher, but I have no idea what is considered acceptable that I could BBQ besides straight up beef. I know that I could just ask him, but I would like to do something unexpected for them because they deserve it. I also want for it to have a distinct BBQ “theme”. I would love to hear some ideas that I could use for our next Q .

01-18-2013, 12:43 AM	#2
Militant83 is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-05-11 Location: Lancaster, OH Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not sure how legit this is but a quick google search gave me this.... http://bbqjew.com/jewbecue/recipes/ although it deals with pork __________________ Custom 250 gal drum cooker,Weber OTG,Maverick ET-73,Covert Black Thermapen

01-18-2013, 01:22 AM	#6
motoeric Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-07-06 Location: huntington, ny Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Have you thought about chicken? How about beef ribs? I love smoked turkey. If possible, you might want to get a new grate, so the food doesn't touch anything that has touched pork. Eric __________________ Smoke Signals Current Issue A BBQ Brethren Publication 2 Thessalonians 2:15 Exodus 12:9

01-18-2013, 09:47 AM	#8
gtr Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-16-10 Location: Culver City, CA Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	This might be a good thing to look into. It's a dish called "tzimmes" (prnounced "simmus") and it's pretty dang good and might be interesting to adapt to BBQ, as brisket is involved. I haven't tried the particular recipe in the link, but just threw it in there as a starting point. __________________ 50" Klose BYC, Backwoods Chubby, UDS, 26" & 22.5" Weber Kettles, Jumbo Joe, WGA, WSJ/MUDS, Jumbo Old Smokey, Pig Hibachi, a piece of expanded metal I throw over the fire pit sometimes, Stealthy Black & Vol Orange Thermapens Displaced East Tennesseean Proud recipient of a Tick Former outlaw MOINK baller, now IMBAS Certified, but still lookin' over my shoulder. Golden Goose Egg - Got 2 in the nest baby! SPFP Mayzie's keeping an eye out for you! WTFWGALD?

01-18-2013, 10:48 AM	#11
cameraman is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 08-30-09 Location: Nashville, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A lot of Jews of a certain age grew up in Conservative homes that were not kosher but who shunned pork out of habit (except for the occasional rasher of bacon.) I think it wouldn't hurt to chat them up and see what they're comfortable with. I don't think there's anything mysterious or exotic here. __________________ Dave Photography is my passion, truth my obsession. No wait, Stieglitz said that. 22.5 WSM 22.5 OTS Weber kettle Smokey Joe (RIP) a dorky little headlamp.

01-18-2013, 12:51 AM	#3
Q Junkie On the road to being a farker Join Date: 07-07-12 Location: San Marcos, CA Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The pastrami is on the list but that is usually not a weekend cook.

01-18-2013, 09:53 AM	#9
Mdboatbum Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 02-07-12 Location: Washington, DC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Serve calamari, sliced into rings. Then about halfway through the meal, say something like: "Yeah, I met this guy through a friend. He's a kosher butcher or something. He gave this to me, said he always has a bunch left over from work. Said it's quite the delicacy where he comes from. Nice guy. Had a funny word for butcher, in Hebrew I guess. What was that word?.....Oh yeah, MOYLE!" They'll LOVE that. Or I guess you could just make a brisket. I've never met a Jew who'd turn down brisket.

01-18-2013, 11:10 AM	#12
Gore somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-05-08 Location: Hiding out from blood suck ghost snake gods ... and Nazis Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You really need to ask and find out how strict they are. Some Jews require separate service plates for different food items. Others are extremely liberal. After my cousin's Bar Mitzvah, the rabbi organized the reception at Dinosaur BBQ for ribs. I think it also shows consideration to ask. __________________ Assistant to a Mad BBQ Scientist (and a squirrel): Primo Oval XL, Small Offset, Gasser, Optigrill, UBS "I love everything about the pig, even the way she walks." -- Spanish proverb (\__/) (='.'=) This is the rabbit baby. Invests him in yours signature, (")_(") and the help rabbit baby takes over control of the world! Hmmmm, I wonder, WWGALD? Avatar courtesy of Grillman and NorthwestBBQ Promoted by Bigabyte to "Idiot #1"

01-18-2013, 10:41 PM	#14
Stoke&Smoke Babbling Farker Join Date: 12-18-07 Location: Western burbs of Chicago, IL Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I work with a Jew who's had our brisket and loved it. And I believe it complies with what part of the animal it comes from. I doubt its strictly kosher,( I think that requires a certified kosher animal) but brisket is a common meal in many Jewish homes I believe __________________ 2 Skinny Cooks Competition Team http://2SkinnyCooks.blogspot.com KCBS CJ/TC #17139 Member ILBBQS Too many cookers to list

01-18-2013, 11:14 PM	#15
Bludawg Babbling Farker Join Date: 07-04-09 Location: Jonesboro,Tx Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	To be Kosher the animal has to be certified pure and blessed by a Rabi, it also has to do with the the way it is butchered. I used to raise Kosher Beef on contract. For the record I aint jewish. __________________ I never met a Cow that I didn't like with a little Salt & Pepper! Certified PORK-A-HOLIC