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Unread 01-15-2013, 09:48 PM   #1
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Default MSG Seasoned Ground Chuck Cheeseburgers

Got my order today for the MSG, picked up the delivery box and it was pretty heavy, 2 lbs is going to be a lot to go through.



Had the butcher grind me up a couple Chuck Roasts, saved one for later. Formed the Patties and seasoned with only the MSG.



Did up a couple Green Chili's as usual for my wife.



Double American cheese on all





Went pretty lite on the seasoning, 1/2 Tsp per lb, this was 3 lbs of meat. Think I will bump it up a bit next time. I could really start to taste the flavor pop, can't wait to try it on some Chuck Eye Steaks.

Guess it is a good thing I ordered extra, this will let me really do some experimentation with many different cooks.
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Yum! Makes me want a nice burger.
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Tasty looking burgers Terry. Know what I'm havin for dinner tonight now
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Nice! Those look delicious!

You might try intermingling more umami flavors as opposed to just adding more MSG. The powdered pure MSG can givea metallic taste if overused. This is why I like to use it as an added boost to existing umami as opposed to being the driver. For example, simply adding another umami flavor to the mix can multiply the flavor explosion. You could either mix in or sprinkle on a little Wooster for example. Or you could go for a cheese with a stronger umami flavor, a little bit of a sharp cheddar might be nice, jsut a few sprinkles underneath the American slices perhaps, or sub the American for cheddar entirely if you think you would prefer it that way. Maybe some grilled mushrooms even? You can add a little soy to the mushrooms as they are cooking and you are tripling the umami in that event.

Just food for thought.
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Total rookie thing to ask but....what's the MSG for?
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Total rookie thing to ask but....what's the MSG for?
Actually, I was going to ask why would you add MSG? That's the stuff that causes headaches in chinese food. So, color me confused as well.
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Google "umami".

Then consider granulated sugar (or even HFCS) equals sweet in a similar fashion to MSG equals umami. Granulated sugar(and HFCS) is also villified as an unhealthy substance leading to all sorts of health related issues, and we have even seen some bans or restrictions in some places, haven't we?

This concludes todays lesson on MSG and umami.
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MSG is a brain tease, it has a way of making your brain think that what it is used on is the best thing you have ever ate. I Love it.
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Nice! Those look delicious!

You might try intermingling more umami flavors as opposed to just adding more MSG. The powdered pure MSG can givea metallic taste if overused. This is why I like to use it as an added boost to existing umami as opposed to being the driver. For example, simply adding another umami flavor to the mix can multiply the flavor explosion. You could either mix in or sprinkle on a little Wooster for example. Or you could go for a cheese with a stronger umami flavor, a little bit of a sharp cheddar might be nice, jsut a few sprinkles underneath the American slices perhaps, or sub the American for cheddar entirely if you think you would prefer it that way. Maybe some grilled mushrooms even? You can add a little soy to the mushrooms as they are cooking and you are tripling the umami in that event.

Just food for thought.
Hmm, surprised you didn't suggest adding some peanut butter and anchovies
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Nice! Those look delicious!

You might try intermingling more umami flavors as opposed to just adding more MSG. The powdered pure MSG can givea metallic taste if overused. This is why I like to use it as an added boost to existing umami as opposed to being the driver. For example, simply adding another umami flavor to the mix can multiply the flavor explosion. You could either mix in or sprinkle on a little Wooster for example. Or you could go for a cheese with a stronger umami flavor, a little bit of a sharp cheddar might be nice, jsut a few sprinkles underneath the American slices perhaps, or sub the American for cheddar entirely if you think you would prefer it that way. Maybe some grilled mushrooms even? You can add a little soy to the mushrooms as they are cooking and you are tripling the umami in that event.

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Thanks Chris, very good info, I will be trying a lot of new flavor profiles now. I appreciate your input!!!
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I could eat a burger like that once a day. I think they should be their own food group. Yours look great, now my PBJ ain't gonna cut it for lunch!
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Hmm, surprised you didn't suggest adding some peanut butter and anchovies
I never found the idea of "goober burgers" very appealing, but I may have to rethink that.
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I never found the idea of "goober burgers" very appealing, but I may have to rethink that.
As long as you're making yours with a doughnut for the bun!!
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