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Unread 01-08-2013, 11:09 PM   #16
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IMO learning on an offset really forces you to learn the basics of fire control.

Yeah sure cheap ones suck at keeping even temps but having to actually build a fire and keep it stoked, whether with charcoal or wood, can go a long way in learning technique. Don't get me wrong, Minion method is great, but there is just something primal about building a fire and having to keep up with it.

A UDS just seems too easy for a beginner. No problem with starting out with one though!! He just might have trouble if he moves on to something like a Lang 48 or similar with never having actually learning good fire control.
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Unread 01-08-2013, 11:18 PM   #17
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I am getting pretty excited to make mine.

I have been smoking for the last 10 months mostly with my 22" OTG (although I also made a mini-WSM). I've gotten pretty good with the OTG, but it still takes a bit of babysitting to get and keep the temperature I want, particularly with longer cooks. I can only imagine how much easier it will be to maintain temperatures for a long time with a UDS without the need to babysit it, constantly adjust vents, add water into a water pan, add more charcoal, etc. I bet it will also be far more efficient on fuel too.
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Unread 01-09-2013, 12:31 AM   #18
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X2 what flying bassman said. I started on a cheap offset (which I still have) and man will it drive anyone nuts trying to maintain the desired temp. Got another free offset and is a little better at holding temps. Built a UDS and now have no idea what to do with all my free time. Holds steady temp for long hours. Will be building another soon.
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Unread 01-09-2013, 12:52 AM   #19
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My first smoker was a UDS. I do agree with Marty, keep the lid closed.
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Unread 01-09-2013, 08:25 AM   #20
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Yes! You will be fine with a UDS.
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Unread 01-09-2013, 09:09 AM   #21
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Build a UDS!! I wish I would have when I started. My first smoker was an ECB, then a Silver Smoker Offset, then WSM and finally a UDS. Save money. You'll be happy with a UDS!!!
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Unread 01-09-2013, 09:15 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by grilling24x7 View Post
I've been posting a lot about UDS building b/c I'm researching it heavily. I wanted to get a few of my friends in on it so perhaps we could build 3-4 at a time all together.

sounds like the makings of some great weekend bbq get-togethers.
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Unread 01-09-2013, 02:27 PM   #23
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UDS is definitely the way to go. Its not as expensive as a WSM, you know exactly how it works because you built it. Its easy to mod if you think it needs to be tweaked, but honestly you don't need to mess with it unless you are a perpetual tinkerer (like I am) and that won't necessarily work in your favor (see below).

Tips from my own personal experience:
- If you use a remote thermometer like a Maverick et732, then don't bother with grommet type mods. Just cut a small shallow notch in the lip of the drum, so that the probe wire does not get crimped by the lid against the rim.

-Forget foiling. Wastes time and foil.

-Make sure you have 2 racks to cook on, possibly a third rack for a clay saucer or other heat deflector. Make sure the top rack leaves enough head room for turkeys, etc.

- I added 1 pipe valve on a riser (fat man mod) so I wouldn't have to bend down all the time to adjust temp. Then I added risers to the other 3 intakes so I wouldn't have to bend down at all (fat AND lazy mod). That's when my drum stopped being able to make it above 270°F. Lesson learned: don't mess with the UDS design too much. (I added a 5th intake 1.25" without a riser and can easily do higher temp cooks now).

And of course, the big UDS thread is an awesome resource!
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I agree with what the gentleman above said! There are actually two fat boy mods though. Ones the riser pipe. The other is just using the toe of your boot to adjust the ball valve!
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I built (5) so far and can buy all the stuff to build for about $115-120 and have it built in 2 days (4) hours each day....

and yes its easy to learn on .....
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No, he will get spoiled! Seriously, my UDS is the easiest cooker to use of all my cookers!

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Thanks to all! I'm officially excited. Working on collecting information and materials now! I'll keep everyone posted!
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A uds is what I started on.
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I'm also fairly new to real BBQ. I've done lots of grilling and smoking on the little chief but I'm really looking forward to building a UDS.
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