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Smoke Ring · 11-14-2012, 11:23 AM

Sometimes it's really hard not to say I told you so.

KCBScore COMMITTEE REPORT - Mike Budai

I met with Carl of InDevX on 11/5 and was informed that due to medical reasons, Dejan (Score's programmer), has left InDevX and the project. We discussed options and met again 11/7 to go over Dejan's progress notes on the changes given to InDevX on 9/11. These changes dealt with program bugs, report structure and the API. I will be meeting with InDevX's CEO, James, 11/12 to go over the change order and discuss what kind of delay to expect in order to get a new programmer up to speed.

DawgPhan · 11-14-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Ring

Sometimes it's really hard not to say I told you so.

KCBScore COMMITTEE REPORT - Mike Budai

I met with Carl of InDevX on 11/5 and was informed that due to medical reasons, Dejan (Score's programmer), has left InDevX and the project. We discussed options and met again 11/7 to go over Dejan's progress notes on the changes given to InDevX on 9/11. These changes dealt with program bugs, report structure and the API. I will be meeting with InDevX's CEO, James, 11/12 to go over the change order and discuss what kind of delay to expect in order to get a new programmer up to speed.

So who on the board has a personal connection to this company?

Smoke Ring · 11-14-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DawgPhan

So who on the board has a personal connection to this company?

The company belongs to Sonny Ashford's son. Sonny has a few friends in high places on the board.

drbbq · 11-14-2012, 11:37 AM

How long have they been working on this?

Smoke Ring · 11-14-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by drbbq

How long have they been working on this?

About a year and a half.

Scottie · 11-14-2012, 11:42 AM

Seems like 25 years...

Smoke Ring · 11-14-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottie

Seems like 25 years...

That's just the latest incarnation. That's not counting the previous debacle that was going to cost $70,000. Of course with all the delays and change orders from KCBS InDevX is probably up to that by now. This is the second time they have lost the programmer working on it. I guess they only employ one programmer at a time.

bover · 11-14-2012, 12:39 PM

Wow.

I'm just a network engineer/datacenter guy, but I work on a lot of product development projects that are a heck of a lot more complex than this. Based on that experience, I just can't imagine how something like a scoring system should take longer than six months at max if properly managed. Has it really been going on for 18+ months?

Dan - 3eyzbbq · 11-14-2012, 02:08 PM

So...the programmer leaves the company and the company is then going to issue a Change order to get a new programmer up to speed? That makes zero sense to me. The company should be responsible and on a deadline. Shouldn't be KCBS's problem that the company lost an employee.

BBQchef33 · 11-14-2012, 02:15 PM

had someone write The BBQ brethren scoring program in 6 weeks. :)

eggzlot · 11-14-2012, 03:18 PM

I work at an IT consulting firm. I am not trying to sell our services to KCBS or anyone on this board, I am just saying in my 9 years in this industry, haven't seen such a small task take so long to complete. Losing an employee should not deter the project, the firm should have people in place to resume the work - its called a contingency plan. This does not seem like rocket science work. I am not behind closed doors with KCBS to know the specifics, but building a scoring system seems like an average task, at best, which should be completed in weeks, not months.

TheJackal · 11-14-2012, 05:43 PM

Yup. I would expect my guys to knock this out in a few weeks. (plus testing etc). Data Integration is our game (INFA). Manage, Analyze, Architect, Design, Build, Test, Deploy, Operate. It's called a methodology. When an employee leaves, the knowledge transfer burden falls to the vendor, not the customer. It's called an 'execution discount'.

Apparently there are a lot of IT guys here that also like to BBQ! :)

Rich Parker · 11-14-2012, 06:13 PM

I could have wrote in COBOL .NET by now.

Slamdunkpro · 11-14-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Parker

I could have wrote in COBOL .NET by now.

Hell, I could have done it on punch cards by now.

DawgPhan · 11-14-2012, 07:25 PM

I could have written it for a TI-86.

also there are lots of IT type guys in bbq...though seems like most of them are hardware guys.

11-14-2012, 11:23 AM	#1
Smoke Ring Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 05-31-07 Location: Santa Fe, NM Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lol Sometimes it's really hard not to say I told you so. KCBScore COMMITTEE REPORT - Mike Budai I met with Carl of InDevX on 11/5 and was informed that due to medical reasons, Dejan (Score's programmer), has left InDevX and the project. We discussed options and met again 11/7 to go over Dejan's progress notes on the changes given to InDevX on 9/11. These changes dealt with program bugs, report structure and the API. I will be meeting with InDevX's CEO, James, 11/12 to go over the change order and discuss what kind of delay to expect in order to get a new programmer up to speed.

11-14-2012, 11:37 AM	#4
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11-14-2012, 12:39 PM	#8
bover is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 01-19-11 Location: Lee's Summit, MO Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wow. I'm just a network engineer/datacenter guy, but I work on a lot of product development projects that are a heck of a lot more complex than this. Based on that experience, I just can't imagine how something like a scoring system should take longer than six months at max if properly managed. Has it really been going on for 18+ months? __________________ "If I were just a bit more humble, I'd be perfect"

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Dan - 3eyzbbq is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 10-10-07 Location: Owings Mills, MD Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So...the programmer leaves the company and the company is then going to issue a Change order to get a new programmer up to speed? That makes zero sense to me. The company should be responsible and on a deadline. Shouldn't be KCBS's problem that the company lost an employee. __________________ Dan Hixon - Pitmaster 3 Eyz BBQ www.3eyzbbq.com Extreme BBQ Trailer, Backwoods Competitor, Backwoods Party, WSM, Traegar 124, Yoder YS640 Thanks to our sponsors: The BBQ Guru, Grizzly Coolers, The Ingredients Store (FAB), Yoder Smokers, 1st Mariner Mortgage, Big Poppa Smokers (Elite Team) and Galvinells Meats

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11-14-2012, 03:18 PM	#11
eggzlot Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 03-08-11 Location: Northern NJ Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I work at an IT consulting firm. I am not trying to sell our services to KCBS or anyone on this board, I am just saying in my 9 years in this industry, haven't seen such a small task take so long to complete. Losing an employee should not deter the project, the firm should have people in place to resume the work - its called a contingency plan. This does not seem like rocket science work. I am not behind closed doors with KCBS to know the specifics, but building a scoring system seems like an average task, at best, which should be completed in weeks, not months.

11-14-2012, 05:43 PM	#12
TheJackal Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 09-14-09 Location: Flemington, NJ Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yup. I would expect my guys to knock this out in a few weeks. (plus testing etc). Data Integration is our game (INFA). Manage, Analyze, Architect, Design, Build, Test, Deploy, Operate. It's called a methodology. When an employee leaves, the knowledge transfer burden falls to the vendor, not the customer. It's called an 'execution discount'. Apparently there are a lot of IT guys here that also like to BBQ! :) __________________ Greg, Smokopolis BBQ -- http://www.facebook.com/SmokopolisBBQ Yoder YS640 BBQ Guru Onyx

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Rich Parker Babbling Farker Join Date: 06-20-09 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I could have wrote in COBOL .NET by now. __________________ WSM and UDS - iBQ'n BBQ Team owner TheBBQSuperstore.com

11-14-2012, 07:25 PM	#15
DawgPhan is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 08-09-07 Location: Atlanta, Ga Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I could have written it for a TI-86. also there are lots of IT type guys in bbq...though seems like most of them are hardware guys.