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Gravity Fed smokers and Grills We are the inventors of these Gravity Fed Smokers and Grills. Innovative and efficient, these BBQ Grills and smokers can burn multi-fuel of charcoal, Wood Pellet, Wood Chunks, Wood Logs and reach temps of 300C or 572 F.


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Unread 08-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #16
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Actually there are 2 doors... And Thanks T
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Unread 08-05-2012, 03:54 AM   #17
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Go careful using that burner.

There was a review on the internet several months ago from someone that was using it and literally blew the door off his cooker. I think the actual thread has sadly been wiped but I will gave a little Google search and email the author and perhaps he can shed some light on what the issue was.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 04:30 AM   #18
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Go careful using that burner.

There was a review on the internet several months ago from someone that was using it and literally blew the door off his cooker. I think the actual thread has sadly been wiped but I will gave a little Google search and email the author and perhaps he can shed some light on what the issue was.
DR_KY, I first met you at www.bbbqs.com, and we met at aussiebbq.info often too. You are occassionally here.
You asked for a few times a free sample, and I never answered you before.
Do I tell all Brethren the truth.
This is the second time that you post fake story.
WHERE do you read "blew the door off his cooker."
No, you simply write a fake story by yourself.
Do you really think the burner is a bomb.
My burn burns charcoal, and pellet, NOT any gas.
Before you fake a story, please think by your brain if you have any knowledge of science. But I doubt your IQ
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Unread 08-05-2012, 04:41 AM   #19
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There is a post in www.thesmokering.com.
A man was making a grill by himself. When He cut the tank by torch, the tank exploded.
He killed himself and badly injuried his daughter.
There must be flamble gas inside the tank.
Does anyone every hear that charcoal or wood pellet explodes.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 07:27 AM   #20
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DR_KY, I first met you at www.bbbqs.com, and we met at aussiebbq.info often too. You are occassionally here.
You asked for a few times a free sample, and I never answered you before.
Do I tell all Brethren the truth.
This is the second time that you post fake story.
WHERE do you read "blew the door off his cooker."
No, you simply write a fake story by yourself.
Do you really think the burner is a bomb.
My burn burns charcoal, and pellet, NOT any gas.
Before you fake a story, please think by your brain if you have any knowledge of science. But I doubt your IQ
I will not do this here with you as you have done with others.

Robert from Berties BBQ in the UK wrote the warning while he was using your product. I will email him as see if it is still available. It was posted on the British BBQ forum if you remember correctly. I will say no more until I get a reply from him as I am only posting of this issue as a matter of concern for safety. It could have very well be an issue of user error and not the product hence my " Go careful using that burner" opening statement.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 07:54 AM   #21
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I will not do this here with you as you have done with others.

Robert from Berties BBQ in the UK wrote the warning while he was using your product. I will email him as see if it is still available. It was posted on the British BBQ forum if you remember correctly. I will say no more until I get a reply from him as I am only posting of this issue as a matter of concern for safety. It could have very well be an issue of user error and not the product hence my " Go careful using that burner" opening statement.
One UK metal works made two burners by themself.
I personally do not see any of them.
Look this post, even you use my burner, you need my instruction to use it correctly, nothing to say the one I have never seen.
If charcoal and wood pellet could explode, territorists would have blown London to heaven.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 08:22 AM   #22
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Dr_KY:
I am clear. You are misleading BBQ brethren here.
I find "Chinese pellet burner WARNING" posted by " British BBQ Society » 06 Jan 2012, 08:25" link http://www.bbbqs.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1640

I was asked by bbbqs.com to pay advertisement fee. As there are very few people there, I refused to waste my money there. Then I was banned.
Dear BBQ Brethren, please do visit that link, nothing but nosense.
Also I sold my smoker, grill and burner to American, Canada and Australia.
I never sell any smoker, grill, and burner to British BBQ Society, and not any UK people.
All UK have no right to judge my burner.
Your "Warning" is nothing but wasting opportunity of real BBQ men.
You can destroy my name, but at same time you are destroying new option or new technology to BBQ Brethren here.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:01 AM   #23
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Personal attacks are not allowed. A civil discussion of the product is fine, but leave the personal attacks out of it.
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Unread 08-05-2012, 09:30 AM   #24
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Yes I did post a warning on BBBQS relating to the use this gravity fed "pellet" burner.
I have checked the link Wang has just posted, but it does not contain my post. It had been removed from the website (along with my identity and all my other posts) because I was found guilty of causing embarasment through excessive and repeated use of truth, but thats a whole other story..........

2 of these pellet burners were built under license in the uk for testing with a view to production. they were identical to those manufactured in china, built from design drawings puchased from Wang.

During testing (with various types of fuel) the following was determined;
The device ran fairly well running on small pieces (1/2-3/4") of charcoal, but even when the pieces were broken down that small, there were chute jam issues. pieces any larger than that it wouldnt run very well at all.

It was then tested with hardwood pellets.
During the initial tests, the pellets that were immediately above the burn pot got very, very hot. As they did so they got very resinous and sticky.
When they reached the burn pot they gummed up and blocked the burn pot and the burner extinguished.

During the following trial, the burner was fitted with a "stoker" type fan and pid controller.
This worked well for about the first half hour, then the burnpot choked up.
Problem was that instead of just going out, the fan just keeps blowing trying to raise the chamber temperature, but instead is blowing air through super-heated wood pellets filling the chamber with lots of air and very hot natural gas.
I think we can all understand what happened next and why!!
A big blue flame puffed out of the back of the fan (electrical sparks) and the 30lb lid of the test bed smoker ended up on the other side of the carpark.#

Further tests were carried out using combination's of charcoal pieces and various types and ratios of wood pellets, and although we achieved some level of success, it would never have proved reliable and safe enough for commercial use in the uk (and do I want to spend the rest of my life breaking charcoal into 3/4" pieces!).

The "warning" I posted as a result of this incident recommended being "very carefull" with it, and selecting an appropriate fuel, which in my opinion did not then, and does not yet exist, small round (3/4") pure charcoal balls.

If you are already using one, the best of luck to you and please bear in mind the above.
I must stress that this incident was caused by a combination of factors including the particular type of pellets that we were using, I cannot comment on the safety and reliability of the product under differing circumstances.
All this information and data was relayed back to Wang, he is fully aware of its potencial shortcomings.

I bear no ill to Wang, but I cannot recommend his product due to the problems detailed above. I am however very offended by his very stupid and offensive terrorism jokes.
I dont think this was a considered part of his sales stratergy.

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Thanks for posting the explanation, Rob.

In all fairness, as Wang pointed out, these were not burners built by him, and even though they were built using his plans there could have been a difference. I'm not saying that there was, but it is possible. The caution is appreciated but this does not mean that the burners being built by Wang will have this same issue.
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DR_KY, I first met you at www.bbbqs.com, and we met at aussiebbq.info often too. You are occassionally here.
You asked for a few times a free sample, and I never answered you before.
Do I tell all Brethren the truth.
This is the second time that you post *fake story.
WHERE do you read "blew the door off his cooker."
*No, you simply write a fake story by yourself.
Do you really think the burner is a bomb.
My burn burns charcoal, and pellet, NOT any gas.
*Before you fake a story, please think by your brain if you have any knowledge of science. But I doubt your IQ
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*Look this post, even you use my burner, you need my instruction to use it correctly, nothing to say the one I have never seen.

If charcoal and wood pellet could explode, territorists would have blown London to heaven.
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Dr_KY:
I am clear. You are misleading BBQ brethren here.
I find "Chinese pellet burner WARNING" posted by " British BBQ Society » 06 Jan 2012, 08:25" link http://www.bbbqs.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1640

Dear BBQ Brethren, please do visit that link, nothing but nosense.
Also I sold my smoker, grill and burner to American, Canada and Australia.
I never sell any smoker, grill, and burner to British BBQ Society, and not any UK people.


*Rob ( bobbyp) has posted the reference on the internet I was referring to.
*I do not and have never used your product(s). ( remember you said none ever came to the UK)



I will wait and graciously accept you apology Wang as soon as you offer it...
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Excellent review. I was already curious and now I'm more than interested.
Suddenly I seem to be no longer interested. Not because of the product mind you.
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My reply to UK:
1."The device ran fairly well running on small pieces (1/2-3/4") of charcoal",
Thank you very much for your testimonial.
At worest result, why do not you burn small pieces (1/2-3/4") of charcoal

2."there were chute jam issues"
Please remember you American have Stumps, Backwoods, Viking, ect. Gravity Feed is very popular in American already.
There may be a jamming too, but the jamming will be burnt down shortly. Leave it as it is. It will cure itsself.

3."It was then tested with hardwood pellets.
During the initial tests, the pellets that were immediately above the burn pot got very, very hot. As they did so they got very resinous and sticky.
When they reached the burn pot they gummed up and blocked the burn pot and the burner extinguished."

There may be too much additives in your pellet. If you use pure WOOD pellet, all will be burnt to ASH.

4."During the following trial, the burner was fitted with a "stoker" type fan and pid controller. This worked well for about the first half hour, then the burnpot choked up......"

Again it is due to your BAD PELLET.
Residue or additives in pellet forms a kind of clanker and blocks the grate.
The heat and air then are forced to go up to fuel bin and flamble gases are released from pellet and may expolde. The "explode" is also contributed to your PID controller and
fan.
Thanks GOD, you did not fill in the burner with gun powder, it would be more powerful.

5." do I want to spend the rest of my life breaking charcoal into 3/4" pieces!"
It takes me LESS THAN 10 minutes to break charcoal of full fuel bin.
If you use a common fire box, if you do low and slow smoking which will last 10 hours, You need to care your fire a few times during the 10 hours. 10 minutes are much worh of it.

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Conclusion:

1. My burner works fine with 3/4" charcoal. It is worth of you spending 10 minutes to break your charcoal down to 3/4" size.

2.My burner does NOT work with LOW GRADE pellet, or pellet with additives.

3.You need my PID controller and fan designed for my burner
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Thanks for the warning !!
I do my own testing, and make my own judgement...When i first used this device, i only temp. mounted it just to test, fire and smoke blew from the lid.. BUT,,, after finding out how to seal it up, it worked perfectly. I also used FULL size Charcoal, I also mixed apple wood chuncks, and pellets. ( all mixed together) still had no problems.....As you can see from my photos, the burner is on a very large Smooker, Cooker......I have also used a Trager pellet hopper, but it often would go out and pour all the pellets into then burner pot....This burner can be used along with my fire box,,,,
1 To add smoke from pellets
2 Smoke from wood chunks
3 To assist in contolling pit temps
I also am Modifing my Smoker,Cooker just for this devise, to be helpful to consumers. ( To Help in determing ) if this burner should be used on there cooker....
5 There are several Things that must be correct, before this burner will work BETTER for you....Air ,intake,exhaust,draft control,etc...
6. When i am throughly finished with the modification,and installations, and ran all test, and Cooked at Competitions with it, i will post all of my findings and recomendations for others....
NOW GET OFF MY THREAD !!!! Please
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Unread 08-05-2012, 11:06 AM   #30
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A true story:

A man in Beijing asked for SIEMENS compensation as his SIMENS refri exploded.
SIEMENS answered no, it is not possible.
The man got very angry and reported to many news media.
Later the media found that the man put hair gel inside his refri, and the hair gel exploded

WOOD pellet stove is very popular in American.
But there is not enough saw dust to make WOOD pellet.
Someone tried to make pellet by straw and grass.
Then WOOD pellet stove does not work any more with straw/grass pellet.
The sugar content of Straw /grass is much higher than WOOD.
The sugar will result in clanker other than ash.
Ash will be blown away from burning pot.
Clanker simply blocks burning pot.
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