Competition Ribs

wormdrink67 · 05-23-2011, 03:17 PM

Continuously getting my @ss handed to me in ribs at kcbs comps. Anyone willing to offer advice on what they're using that's doing well I'd greatly appreciate it. 3 comps and haven't scored over 155, don't have the slightest clue as to what I'm doing wrong. Appearance scores are good, taste is what's hurting me and as with any kcbs comp, when your taste is suffering, the tenderness scores are down also. I'm using a variation of the 3-1-1 method at 230 degrees on a backwoods party. Tried a couple different rubs, couple different sauces, can't hit the magic numbers with any of them. Again, I'd really appreciate any help you guys can offer. Thanks.

Sledneck · 05-23-2011, 03:20 PM

slabs.com amazing glaze

Jacked UP BBQ · 05-23-2011, 03:35 PM

the amazing glaze is amazing

Sawdustguy · 05-23-2011, 03:57 PM

Forget all the methods, 3-2-1, 2-2-1 etc., just forget them all. Simply use a good commercial rub and sauce and cook them until the bone pulls back 1/4" and the rack bends at a 60 degree angle.

Frank Sacco · 05-23-2011, 03:59 PM

Make one change at a time. Don't change every aspect of your ribs each time you don't score well. Have a base line rub and sauce that you use. Tweak as you see fit to your pallet. Then let the judges make their decision. Gotta start some where!

Ford · 05-23-2011, 03:59 PM

assuming you're doing st louis, you are probably undercooking them. 250 for 6 hours with 2 hours in foil.

Taste - do they taste like spicy candy on a stick? If not you can add rub and heat and add lots of brown sugar, honey and butter when wrapping. It may take you 3 or 4 cooks to get it down but then you'll see higher scores. Of course the ribs taste like S*&T when you eat more than a couple of bites.

wormdrink67 · 05-23-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ford

assuming you're doing st louis, you are probably undercooking them. 250 for 6 hours with 2 hours in foil.

Taste - do they taste like spicy candy on a stick? If not you can add rub and heat and add lots of brown sugar, honey and butter when wrapping. It may take you 3 or 4 cooks to get it down but then you'll see higher scores. Of course the ribs taste like S*&T when you eat more than a couple of bites.

I'm cooking back ribs that are trimmed down to around 2.0lbs....I can assure you they aren't under done, possibly over done, but not under and I assumed that they tasted exactly as you said "candy on stick"....the judges just don't seem to be tasting the same thing I am. Guess its time to change to st. louis, that what everyone seems to be cooking.

Ford · 05-23-2011, 04:35 PM

back ribs - start at 2-1-1 at 250 and tweak from there. Sounds like it's the rub or rub/sauce combo. Try a commercail rub and sauce from the same company - smoking guns, slabs, rib rangers, etc. of course add honey to the sauce.

Cook · 05-23-2011, 04:48 PM

Take a judging class.

wormdrink67 · 05-23-2011, 04:51 PM

Cook- I'm cbj #60558, it's also on my signature. The judging class taught me about as much about how I should be cooking bbq as my first grade teacher....

Sledneck · 05-23-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wormdrink67

Cook- I'm cbj #60558, it's also on my signature. The judging class taught me about as much about how I should be cooking bbq as my first grade teacher....

hahahahahha

quarters69 · 05-23-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cook

Take a judging class.

Taking a judging class will not help you with your scores. I took a class and taste was never even brought up in the class, every pallet is different.

Sledneck · 05-23-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Sacco

Make one change at a time. Don't change every aspect of your ribs each time you don't score well. Have a base line rub and sauce that you use. Tweak as you see fit to your pallet. Then let the judges make their decision. Gotta start some where!

one rib win and suddenly your an expert, pffffft

Fishiest1 · 05-23-2011, 05:44 PM

Any chance it might be too much wood or the type? Everything else you mentioned seems to put you pretty close to the spot.

wormdrink67 · 05-23-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishiest1

Any chance it might be too much wood or the type? Everything else you mentioned seems to put you pretty close to the spot.

I hadn't really thought about it, but I guess you could be right. I'm using mesquite, so maybe I'll change the wood and see how that goes. Thanks.

05-23-2011, 03:17 PM	#1
wormdrink67 On the road to being a farker Join Date: 11-07-10 Location: erwin, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Competition Ribs Continuously getting my @ss handed to me in ribs at kcbs comps. Anyone willing to offer advice on what they're using that's doing well I'd greatly appreciate it. 3 comps and haven't scored over 155, don't have the slightest clue as to what I'm doing wrong. Appearance scores are good, taste is what's hurting me and as with any kcbs comp, when your taste is suffering, the tenderness scores are down also. I'm using a variation of the 3-1-1 method at 230 degrees on a backwoods party. Tried a couple different rubs, couple different sauces, can't hit the magic numbers with any of them. Again, I'd really appreciate any help you guys can offer. Thanks. __________________ WSM 22.5 CBJ #60558 PACK-A-SMOKES BBQ TEAM

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Sawdustguy Babbling Farker Join Date: 09-14-05 Location: Manorville, Long Island Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Forget all the methods, 3-2-1, 2-2-1 etc., just forget them all. Simply use a good commercial rub and sauce and cook them until the bone pulls back 1/4" and the rack bends at a 60 degree angle. __________________ Guy (Brewmaster and Pitmaster) BBQ Team: *Two Fat Polocks BBQ Team* Brewery: Black Dog Brewery BBQ Equipment: "Sam I Am": XL Big Green Egg "Barbra Q": Lang 84 Deluxe "R2 and D2": Twin 22" Weber Smokey Mountains Brewery: Custom Made Automated Souped Up Sabco

05-23-2011, 03:59 PM	#5
Frank Sacco is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-21-07 Location: Patchogue, NY Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Make one change at a time. Don't change every aspect of your ribs each time you don't score well. Have a base line rub and sauce that you use. Tweak as you see fit to your pallet. Then let the judges make their decision. Gotta start some where! __________________ Current: FEC100, Backwoods Party, BGE Medium, WSM Retired: Spicewine Med Weber Lineup: Performer, 22.5" One Touch Gold (redhead), WSJ Platnium, Genesis C Wicked fast, Super accurate, splash proof RED Thermapen www.blazinbuttzbbq.com Last edited by Frank Sacco; 05-23-2011 at 04:23 PM..

05-23-2011, 03:59 PM	#6
Ford is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 04-14-07 Location: Lakeland Florida Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	assuming you're doing st louis, you are probably undercooking them. 250 for 6 hours with 2 hours in foil. Taste - do they taste like spicy candy on a stick? If not you can add rub and heat and add lots of brown sugar, honey and butter when wrapping. It may take you 3 or 4 cooks to get it down but then you'll see higher scores. Of course the ribs taste like S&T when you eat more than a couple of bites. __________________ Ford Owner/Head Cook/Chief Bottle Washer for Great Lakes BBQ & Feed Competition BBQ Team FBA Member, KCBS Member & KCBS Certified BBQ Judge Spicewine medium, weber kettle, gas grill Last edited by Ford; 05-23-2011 at 04:00 PM.. Reason: spelling*

05-23-2011, 04:35 PM	#8
Ford is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 04-14-07 Location: Lakeland Florida Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	back ribs - start at 2-1-1 at 250 and tweak from there. Sounds like it's the rub or rub/sauce combo. Try a commercail rub and sauce from the same company - smoking guns, slabs, rib rangers, etc. of course add honey to the sauce. __________________ Ford Owner/Head Cook/Chief Bottle Washer for Great Lakes BBQ & Feed Competition BBQ Team FBA Member, KCBS Member & KCBS Certified BBQ Judge Spicewine medium, weber kettle, gas grill

05-23-2011, 04:48 PM	#9
Cook is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-23-10 Location: Mount Pleasnt, SC Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Take a judging class.

05-23-2011, 04:51 PM	#10
wormdrink67 On the road to being a farker Join Date: 11-07-10 Location: erwin, TN Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Cook- I'm cbj #60558, it's also on my signature. The judging class taught me about as much about how I should be cooking bbq as my first grade teacher.... __________________ WSM 22.5 CBJ #60558 PACK-A-SMOKES BBQ TEAM

05-23-2011, 05:44 PM	#14
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