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Unread 02-03-2010, 06:41 PM   #1
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Default Kcbs bod agenda 2-05-10

The agenda for the KCBS BOD meeting of 2-5-10 (Friday) at 7:00 p.m. has been posted.
This includes many important issues.
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Unread 02-03-2010, 07:03 PM   #2
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Change to Rule 6
Fires shall be of wood, wood pellets, charcoal or propane gas.

That should be an interesting discussion.

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Several of the suggestions dont seem to reflect the feedback I was hearing... interesting. I know I was still on my way to the hotel while the meeting was going on, so I didn't hear all the input.... but many of these requested changes dont seem to mesh with accounts I heard after the meeting. How are the recommendations arrived at?
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Propane gas? Seriously?
IMHO that would be moving KCBS in the wrong direction - away from their roots and the tradition of BBQ.


I do have to say I agree with the chicken rule change recommendation, not sure why they would want to delay implementation for a year though.
The trend to (unnaturally) perfect little thighs has bothered me, i would welcome the requirement to submit both white & dark meat.

the rest of it seems innocuous.
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I like the restrictions on size for ancillary categories. Saw many times where it took two people to carry a desert that looked like it was on a Food Network challenge.

Not a fan of the chicken rule. There is no rule that limits the type of chicken you can turn in currently. To me this reminds me of all the garnish talk.
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What I liked was the change of wording for identifiable .
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several of the suggestions dont seem to reflect the feedback i was hearing... Interesting. I know i was still on my way to the hotel while the meeting was going on, so i didn't hear all the input.... But many of these requested changes dont seem to mesh with accounts i heard after the meeting. How are the recommendations arrived at?
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What's the deal with finding out how many bounce-back emails? According to a post on the other forum it was exclaimed that there was a plan in place if that were to occur......obviously, THAT didn't happen.
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What I liked was the change of wording for identifiable .
I've felt that this rule needed to be changed or clarified, this is good. But why no change on Rule # 10 about parting? You can part chix, ribbs & brisky - why not pork?

Just my $0.02

p.s. - propane? That should be interesting to hear.
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I like the suggestion for rule 15. What I read is don't worry about 6 pieces at the time of appearance. Let it all shake out at the end if the 6th judge doesn't get a piece. Essentially, it is saying don't worry about the number of pieces you can see, worry about the number you get. Makes sense to me.

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I guess my request to announce committee members, needs, and openings through KCBS.us didn't make the agenda.
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Several of the suggestions dont seem to reflect the feedback I was hearing... interesting. I know I was still on my way to the hotel while the meeting was going on, so I didn't hear all the input.... but many of these requested changes dont seem to mesh with accounts I heard after the meeting. How are the recommendations arrived at?
And why should they reflect the joke of a meeting that is held at the banquet each year? Do you think even .1% of the membership was represented? Hold it in a hotel with no dial in or Web conferencing capabilities for those who aren't traveling to the banquet location. Hold it on Friday afternoon when some people who are going to attend the banquet are still traveling. What kind of a representation should be expected with a recipe like that?

#1 recommendation on the meeting agenda should be how to get quality rules feedback from the membership. I'm betting that there aren't hundreds of cook teams begging to cook white meat chicken. While I'm on the topic of chicken, most teams will tell you that it is probably the hardest to figure out and yet the easiest KCBS meat to cook. I think the entry offers its own set of challenges unique to the other three regardless if you are turning in thighs, breasts, wings or lollypops legs (which has always surprised me that it isn't sculpting). I'm going to start a "save the breasts" campaign.
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Yeah, that rules meeting is a joke. Always has been and probably always will be. There's got to be a better way to do this. Web sites? Hell, I don't know, but getting feedback from a group of people who in no way represent a true cross-section of the membership is ridiculous!

So... they want to allow propane but not electricity? If we're gonna bastardize KCBS, why not go all the way?

Rule 10 again... chit! The sugestion in Philly was to add the words "prior to cooking" after parted. That's why non-cooks shouldn't be making the rules.

"I would like to propose we find out how many bounced emails we had, follow-up with a letter to those members in order to get current emails and update our database. "

Really? Now??? Why not send out a test email message and check for bounces back in like September or October so you have three months to fix things? Awesome forsight!

And yeah, let's all go out and grab six farkin' whole chickens to cook to get six pieces!

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Change to Rule 6
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That should be an interesting discussion.

What.

The.

FARK?!?!
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And why should they reflect the joke of a meeting that is held at the banquet each year? Do you think even .1% of the membership was represented? Hold it in a hotel with no dial in or Web conferencing capabilities for those who aren't traveling to the banquet location. Hold it on Friday afternoon when some people who are going to attend the banquet are still traveling. What kind of a representation should be expected with a recipe like that?

#1 recommendation on the meeting agenda should be how to get quality rules feedback from the membership. I'm betting that there aren't hundreds of cook teams begging to cook white meat chicken. While I'm on the topic of chicken, most teams will tell you that it is probably the hardest to figure out and yet the easiest KCBS meat to cook. I think the entry offers its own set of challenges unique to the other three regardless if you are turning in thighs, breasts, wings or lollypops legs (which has always surprised me that it isn't sculpting). I'm going to start a "save the breasts" campaign.
I'm in!!
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