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Unread 09-01-2009, 02:27 PM   #1
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What would be the recomended distance from bottom of fire grate to cooking grate?
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Vertical or horizontal drum?
On my horizontal I have 7 inches space between them.
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Vertical, I'm adding some upper pegs to hold a charcoal grate for grilling.

Making the grate right now. Taking pics, I'll go ahead and cut the air intakes while I try to find out.
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Ask Barbarian,he's the only guy I know that has a drum like that.
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The uds thread recommends 24"
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The uds thread recommends 24"

That's for an UDS if I'm correct
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A Weber 22.5 is 5" from the charcoal grate to the cooking grate if I remember correctly. Let us know how it works out.
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A Weber 22.5 is 5" from the charcoal grate to the cooking grate if I remember correctly. Let us know how it works out.
I'd go with that...Weber has already done the math!
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Although I have to admit I've never "Grilled" on it I purposely made my grates 5" apart on my UDS so I could conceivably "Grill" on it at some point. I might need some air intakes on the upper portion to make it work right though.

5" is what I'd go with too.
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This is how I made mine...

I can use it as a grill by setting the charcoal basket on top of a disc harrow blade and then set the grill on top of that...
Basket is expanded metal six inches tall

The cooking grate sets one inch above that for grilling



Or I can set the charcoal basket on the bottom of the Drum and use the disc blade as a heat shield and the Drum as a Smoker...
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Thanks guys, of course after I made my post, I got a customer and had to lay it down for the day. If my day goes according to plan tomorrow, I will finish it.

5" it is thanks guys.
N8man, thanks for the ideas, I think I have one of those blades behind my dad's barn. Good looking deli steaks.

I am making this one to do both, smoke and grill. I am making a special basket for grilling. What I have been doing, is setting the remainder of the 15 gallon drum that I made my fire basket from in the UDS and placing the ash pan and basket on top of it. It's getting to be a pain setting that messy drum in and out, and when it's out it's dripping burger grease on the patio.
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Although I have to admit I've never "Grilled" on it I purposely made my grates 5" apart on my UDS so I could conceivably "Grill" on it at some point. I might need some air intakes on the upper portion to make it work right though.

5" is what I'd go with too.
Well, I didn't even think of that! Good idea.
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So I was thinking that just putting 4 1" ID pipe nipples 3" from the bottom would be okay.

Will I need to put some up higher for when I use the grilling basket?

If so, how far below the basket should the intake holes be?
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Here are some pics of mine.
I think part of it depends on the charcoal basket. I use the same type I have in my UDS but have the grate a bit off center (can measure if you really need me to) so that I can make the charcoal grate closer then 6" or farther then 6" from cooking grate depending on what I am cooking. I measured the distance on a Weber kettle and went from there.

As you see I have a pan that just fits inside the drum (made from a donor lid) with a ash pan so I don't know how the fire would react if the bottom intakes are used and the ash is allowed to fall to the bottom of the drum. I would be interested to know how it would work. Clean up is easy with the method I came up with.
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Here is what I did. Real basic and no other drum need either. I used the charcoal basket from the drum, with an additional charcoal grate near the top, and placed a cast iron grate from a large BGE on top of the basket. This is excellent for short, REALLY high heat cooks. Have only done rib eyes this way so far.
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The cast iron grate is about 4" from the coals.

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