Dangers of cooking a Stuffed Turkey

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There is a current thread asking for your preference of a stuffed bird, or on the side. Just wanted to make sure everyone is fully aware of the dangers of not cooking a stuffed bird properly....


"Cooking a stuffed turkey is riskier than cooking an unstuffed one, because it takes longer for the stuffing to reach the proper internal temperature of 165 degrees F when it is placed into the cavity of the bird," said Martin Bucknavage, food safety specialist in the department of food science. "While people concern themselves about cooking the bird to 165 degrees F, they must ensure that stuffing also achieves that temperature."
Bucknavage noted that often the turkey ends up overcooked in getting the stuffing to the proper temperature, or the stuffing ends up undercooked because the turkey is removed from the oven when the bird is at the right temperature, but the stuffing is not.
"It is the undercooked stuffing that poses the real risk," he said. "Bacterial pathogens such as Salmonella may be present in the cavity of the bird and can contaminate the stuffing. If the stuffing is not cooked thoroughly, Salmonella can survive and may infect those who consume it."
If you want a properly cooked, stuffed bird with less chance of foodborne illness, Bucknavage said, just cook your stuffing separately. To preserve a family tradition, stuff your fully cooked bird with the cooked stuffing before serving. If you simply must stuff your bird before cooking, take extra care to ensure the internal temperature of both the bird and the stuffing exceeds 165 degrees F before serving.




The full article can be found here :thumb:
 
There is a current thread asking for your preference of a stuffed bird, or on the side. Just wanted to make sure everyone is fully aware of the dangers of not cooking a stuffed bird properly....


"Cooking a stuffed turkey is riskier than cooking an unstuffed one, because it takes longer for the stuffing to reach the proper internal temperature of 165 degrees F when it is placed into the cavity of the bird," said Martin Bucknavage, food safety specialist in the department of food science. "While people concern themselves about cooking the bird to 165 degrees F, they must ensure that stuffing also achieves that temperature."
Bucknavage noted that often the turkey ends up overcooked in getting the stuffing to the proper temperature, or the stuffing ends up undercooked because the turkey is removed from the oven when the bird is at the right temperature, but the stuffing is not.
"It is the undercooked stuffing that poses the real risk," he said. "Bacterial pathogens such as Salmonella may be present in the cavity of the bird and can contaminate the stuffing. If the stuffing is not cooked thoroughly, Salmonella can survive and may infect those who consume it."
If you want a properly cooked, stuffed bird with less chance of foodborne illness, Bucknavage said, just cook your stuffing separately. To preserve a family tradition, stuff your fully cooked bird with the cooked stuffing before serving. If you simply must stuff your bird before cooking, take extra care to ensure the internal temperature of both the bird and the stuffing exceeds 165 degrees F before serving.




The full article can be found here :thumb:

This is why you make a broth with the gizzards and neck to use in your "Dressing" recipe that's cooked seperately.:thumb:
 
As a serious aside, must be why my grandma always finished hers in a pan in either the oven or on the stove top.

I always thought it was to brown it a bit. Maybe it was for both reasons.
 
my mom always stuffed and made sure it was ok by overcooking the bird. we never got sick. only much later did she start to cook it seperate and the turkey's got better !
 
I do a stuffed turkey on my weber kettle every year. Stuff it with onion, garlic, pears and apples. Comes out great every time.
 
Last year I smoked a goose in the UVC, then pulled it out, stuffed it & finished it on the Weber gasser. What a pain in the arse. But it sure did taste awfully good!
 
Last year I smoked a goose in the UVC, then pulled it out, stuffed it & finished it on the Weber gasser. What a pain in the arse. But it sure did taste awfully good!


Just be sure the stuffing reaches safe temps, or you will still have a good chance of cross contamination.
 
When I stuff the turkey I make sure the stuffing is nice and hot, the idea being that it'll kill some of the nasties it might come in contact with, it'll jump start the cooking of the turkey itself, and it'll take less time to come up to temp. I have no idea if this is a good idea or not but nobody's ever gotten sick...

I'm surprised Mr. Bucknavage didn't have anything to say about doing it this way.
 
I'm with Deguerre. Make a stock out of the "bonus" turkey/chicken parts and make stove top dressing (eww not the boxed stuff) from scratch.
 
"It is the undercooked stuffing that poses the real risk," he said. "Bacterial pathogens such as Salmonella may be present in the cavity of the bird and can contaminate the stuffing. If the stuffing is not cooked thoroughly, Salmonella can survive and may infect those who consume it."

Put the stuffing in a roasting bag inside the turkey. No cross contamination and you save the oven room, which is premium real estate around the holidays.
 
my mom always stuffed and made sure it was ok by overcooking the bird. we never got sick. only much later did she start to cook it seperate and the turkey's got better !

We always had it at my aunts house that way and for the first 25 years of my life I thought I hated turkey. It still isn't one of my favorites but at least I now know you aren't supposed to choke while you are eating it:becky:
 
When I stuff the turkey I make sure the stuffing is nice and hot, the idea being that it'll kill some of the nasties it might come in contact with, it'll jump start the cooking of the turkey itself, and it'll take less time to come up to temp. I have no idea if this is a good idea or not but nobody's ever gotten sick...

I'm surprised Mr. Bucknavage didn't have anything to say about doing it this way.

This is what I do. You just can't beat the flavor of the stuffing that comes out of the bird.
 
At 55 years old, I have been eating turkey with stuffing in the cavity every year. Maybe we are lucky and never got sick.

What we have done recently is, get the turkey cooking for about 1 hour and the dressing cooking in a covered dish. Then, take the turkey out of the oven, drain the blood red juice from the cavity (into the basting pan), THEN stuff the bird with the dressing that has been cooking in the covered dish. Dressing comes out moist and tasty and everything is done (dressing and bird).

We tried this as the cooking time increased if we stuffed the bird at the begining of the cooking process.

wallace
 
I am an old man according to my kids. I have had a stuffed turkey almost every year up until the age of 40. The stuffing was moist, excellent and delicious. However...... most of the times the turkey was overcooked which is probably why no one got Salmonella serotype Enteritidis (SE) or whatever nasties turkeys carry in them.
I now, always smoke my turkeys empty cavity and do the stuffing in the ove.
 
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