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Ok, so here is my set up. As you can see from the pic, i have foil drip pan and lump on one side of the kettle. It is only 3/4th a weber chimney full of unlit. I removed the chunk before i put the lit stuff on. Lit 1/4th a chimney full of a new bag of lump. waited 5 to 8 minutes till it was clean and red edges., poured that right over the unlit charcoal. Then placed wood chunks right on the center of the lit coal. The book said to wait 5 minutes for the white smoke to clear. so i waited 3 minutes because i noticed the lump was fetching hot and the unlit was all lit... No smoke. cloased the lid. BAM, tons and tons and tons of white smoke. So bad that in 2 or 3 minutes i had to pull what was left out of the wood chunks out. They were completly carbonized.... I have tried the method where you mix wood chunks in the unlit stuff, same luck.. forgot to mention. the clean fire was at 350 lid temp and roughly 300 grate.

Here is the setup:I removed the first wood chunks and placed after the lit charcoal was poured on:
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here is the pic of clean exhaust before wood chunk.
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the carbonized wood after 2 or so minutes.
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What happened? haha.

thanx guys. I know its anoying when i ask my questions but believe you me, this is anoying the he!! outa me. ahahaha
 
The fire is not hot enough to burn the wood like logs in a stickburner with full combustion. Yours just smoldered causing the white smoke. I would suggest to bury the chucks in the coals so that it takes 30-45 minutes for the hot coals to reach. That way you'll have a hot piece of wood when the fire hit it. But either way if you're not outright burning the wood I'm not sure you'll get sweet blue. But I could be wrong, usually am.

Edit: oops forgot you already tried to bury chucks.
 
I would recommend placing the chunk of wood in your chimney with your charcoal/lump to let it get a head start. After dumping the lit chunk/charcoal/lump mix let it get to temp and wait at least 30 minutes till you see thin blue. Just be patient it will happen. Let those chunks "carbonize" It needs to happen.

I guess I should ask.....was the wood seasoned correctly?
 
Could be bad wood as well. I've had bad chunks that wouldn't stop smoldering bad smoke in my egg once. Pulled it and added a new chunk and was clean within minutes.
 
The fire was hot. 350 lid temp and 300 grate for about 20 minutes and it was very clean. Then i added the chunk and then it just went to hell. haha. So the chunk has to carbonize before it will let out TBS? If i would have left them in, they would have burned all the way down in minutes.

Yeah the wood has been dried for about 2 years.

The only time i have ever gotten TBS, i let the kettle get to temp, and then i placed the chunk on the edge of the fire. TBS for sure but not sure if that was a correct method. Is that an ok method? This has happened only once. haha

thanx
 
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LT:
I think you're too worried about the color of the smoke on the kettle. What you describe, I do all the time. (for my famous smokey chicken: leg quarters, smoke roasted at 300+ on the kettle for 1.25 hrs, 5-6 times a summer 'round here) I often use chunks of apple and it puts off lots of white smoke, but when you smell the smoke, It's sweet, it's not acrid. I also used fresh chunks early this May from a cherry tree I cut down in March. It worked fine, so I don't think chunks on a charcoal fire need to be seasoned. Most of the people talking about what color the smoke should be are burning wood as their main cooking fuel. That's a lot different than using charcoal. Different rules I don't know.

Next time check to see what the smoke smells like, and if if it doesn't stink proceed with the cook and see what it tastes like in the end.

BTW the chunks you are using are big enough to use one at a time, unless you are trying for some serious smokiness. Each one will provide plenty of smoke for a kettle for about 45 minutes. Maybe 2 of them is what making the smoke too thick...
If you are trying for a lower temp in the kettle you need to use some sort of baffle to get the charcoal to stack up and keep radiant heat away from the cooking area. Fire bricks or charcoal rails or even a Smokenator will help with that. Also water pans will help regulate temp.
 
I agree with Jim.
Light your fire, put a chunk of wood on.
So you get a few minutes of white smoke. No big deal.
Roll with it.
 
Seems like the gauge is blocking a whole lot of exhaust. Pre heat the chunks.
 
Seems like the gauge is blocking a whole lot of exhaust. Pre heat the chunks.

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What Noco said. Start the chunk in the chimney with your lit lump and let it get to the point where there are flames shooting out the top of the chimney and the lump is a lot more lit. I think you might be dumping the chimney to soon. Then place a couple of chunks on any free space on the food grate (NOT over the fire) so they can pre-heat while the food is cooking. When you need to add the pre-heated chunks, combustion will be immediate.
 
The pic of the wood shows its only "carbonized" on the exterior. You got the heat from the flames not hot coals.... I've learned one must be very patient about the fire... in other words, when you think its ready.... wait a little longer. Just my 2 cents.
 
The pic of the wood shows its only "carbonized" on the exterior. You got the heat from the flames not hot coals.... I've learned one must be very patient about the fire... in other words, when you think its ready.... wait a little longer. Just my 2 cents.

Thanx guys for all the help. The smoke didnt smell bad just thick and when it hit my eyes, they watered but i have naturally dry eyes anyway so my eyes will water in fog...

lol, i thought about this part as well. I know my lump was pretty hot. Im just affraid that if i put it in TO hot, i wont be able to control it. Im trying again today with some chicken. This time, ill let the kettle get to 300 and stay that way for 20 minutes to ensure a clean burning fire. Once it is clean and stable, then I will add the wood and see what happens.

Oh, the thermometer was only in there for a 8 minutes to grab a temp. I couldnt use the long turkey therm because it would hit the meat and or the edge of my water pan.

I will tell you this. I tried again last night because i was so bummed. I got the kettle to temp and then i placed ONE piece right on the edge of the fire rather than smack on the hot center of the fire. I noticed for about 5 minutes when i did this, i had TBS, then it stopped. Every so offten, TBS would show up and then go away. Smelt very pleasent.

oh here is the pic of the cook. This is after i took the chunks off, still had a smoke ring cuz im thinkin the thick heavy smoke from both chunks basically smoked it in like 3 minutes. hahaha

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What Noco said. Start the chunk in the chimney with your lit lump and let it get to the point where there are flames shooting out the top of the chimney and the lump is a lot more lit. I think you might be dumping the chimney to soon. Then place a couple of chunks on any free space on the food grate (NOT over the fire) so they can pre-heat while the food is cooking. When you need to add the pre-heated chunks, combustion will be immediate.
+1 thats how i do it on my kettle.
 
Looks to me like you got it!!

The only thing I noticed from your first post is that you never mention what you're doing with the lid until you're up to temp. I let the fire get going, then close the lid and let things settle, before I decide my fire is ready.

If you're not putting the lid on until the fire is "ready", you're making a sudden and drastic change in air flow, which will affect heat and smoke...
 
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Personally I think you are putting way to much thought into it. No offense intended.
Just put in some unlit lump, and dump a small amount of lit lump on top of it, then put the lid on. Or put in the lump, then lay a lit paper towel on top(twisted tight & soaked in olive oil).

Good Luck!
 
LT:
I think you're too worried about the color of the smoke on the kettle. What you describe, I do all the time. (for my famous smokey chicken: leg quarters, smoke roasted at 300+ on the kettle for 1.25 hrs, 5-6 times a summer 'round here) I often use chunks of apple and it puts off lots of white smoke, but when you smell the smoke, It's sweet, it's not acrid. I also used fresh chunks early this May from a cherry tree I cut down in March. It worked fine, so I don't think chunks on a charcoal fire need to be seasoned. Most of the people talking about what color the smoke should be are burning wood as their main cooking fuel. That's a lot different than using charcoal. Different rules I don't know.

Next time check to see what the smoke smells like, and if if it doesn't stink proceed with the cook and see what it tastes like in the end.

I agree completely on using your nose more than your eyes. That's what I do. If the smoke smells good, the food should taste good.

CD
 
I agree completely on using your nose more than your eyes. That's what I do. If the smoke smells good, the food should taste good.

CD

Sometimes if in doubt , I put my hand over the exhaust for a couple seconds then smell my hand. If it smells good, go with it...if it smell "off" I wait a little longer.
 
It seems like you have gotten it working, but, here is what I would do that is not clear to me whether you are doing this or not. I put the lit lump, and I like it completely lit, not lit on the edges, I use about 1/4 chimney, directly onto the unlit. I then put the grate on and place the wood over the lit, on the grate. Close the kettle and let it run for 15 to 20 minutes monitoring temperature. I never want the grate temperature to rise above cooking temperature. Once temperature is stabilized where I want it, I drop the now heated wood chunks on the edge of the lit coals, they will now ignite and smolder fine. Put grate on, put meat on and let it run. Since I am often smoking a long time on my kettle, I will put a couple chunks of wood on the grate, away from the fire to get them heated up for more smoke about 1/2 hour into the cook.
 
Ok, i think i got it. Today, i poured 3/4 a chimney of unlit onto the one side of my kettle. Then i lit up 1/4 lump and let it get red hot. I even waited 10 minutes till it got red hot. Then i poured that lumpo over the unlit and left the lid off for a minute or so, since im at 4600 feet i had to let it breathe. Once the coal was hot, i put the lid on and watched it smoke for about 5 minutes until it stablized. i put the temp gauge in and waited 15 minutes till it stablized around 300. Put my water pan in and drip pan. Placed one chunk right on the edge of the fire and it slowly slowly burned and smoked TBS.



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I guess i did kind of over think it. Maybe what happened, like some one mentioned, was that the two wood chunks from the begining were just fine but since it was all comming out at once, it looked white and thick but was still good smoke. Who knows. thanx guys. I learned something new. haha. I also learned that hickory might be to strong for me. The middle of the beef was great but the bark had an interesting flavor. Not my type. almost like an earthy cured flavor. The beef was 100% angus choice preistage beef so i dont think it was that. next time i will go with a lighter flavor. Todays cook was good though. i used mapple and white oak for the chicken. BUT very small pieces. haha. nice pink color on the chicken to..
 
So you dont normally let the lump sit until red hot? You said you EVEN let the lump get red hot?

What do you normally do?!? :shock:
 
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