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Hi Everybody,

We are a new team out of Central Illinois and was hoping for some critiques. Our team name is Three Porks and a Smoker. None of us has ever competed in BBQ comps but we've been backyard grilling for years. After saying that it really doesn't matter .......I've recently realized.) We are planning to do three or four per year and our first will be in Hazelwood, MO this April (Kick-Off Cook-Off). This will be our first ever competition and were looking forward to the challenge.

We decided to do some practicing today despite the 20 degree temps and 15 mph wind. We cooked pork shoulder, chicken thighs and spare ribs.

Could you all please look throught our processes and let us know if were on the right track? That would be most helpful.

Pork Shoulder:
The night before :trimmed fat off around the money muscle and injected the whole butt. This am: applied light coat of mustard, rubbed heavily with rub, placed on smoker at 275 F. Foiled in marinade at 165 and cooked till about 197 (probe went through like butter). Let the steam vent for 20 minutes then put in a cooler for 1 hr to rest. The whole process was about 8 hours. After the resting period, I cut off the money muscle and cut this into 6 pieces. I ran out of MM for the pics so I had to make due for today. The meat around the bone I pulled and chunked out pieces with burned ends. I tossed these pieces in some sauce and lightly applied more rub. I present this all on a bed of parsley. I only had one money muscle to pull from and the pre-cooked weight of the butt was only 6 lbs. In retrospect I will cook a larger butt next time in hopes to get a longer money muscle. In the picture, I got 4 great pieces and the other 2 sucked. The meat was very tender and tasty. For competitions I guess I'll cook 3 shoulders for greater availability of pieces.

Chicken Thighs:
De-boned, skinned, rubbed under the skin and over the skin, re-applied the skin, braised in parkay for 1 hr then smoked till 175 F. Smoker was at 230 F. Once at 175 F, grilled 30 minutes to crisp up the skin. Once grilled, applied sauce while spraying mop to smooth out sauce. These got a little dark so next time I guess we have to pay more attention.

Spare Ribs:
I wanted to try the 3-2-1 method but it was wayyyyyy over cooked. Please tell me what I did wrong. Smoked at 250-260 f, smoked unfoiled for 3 hours, then wrapped in foil bone up in parkay, b. sugar, honey, sauce and mop. Cooked in the foil for 2 hours. After two hours I took the ribs out of the foil and allowed the ribs to vent for 20 minutes. To finish I placed back on the smoker at 225f unfoiled and applied more sauce. After a total of 6 hours these bad boys were falling off the bone. Maybe next time 2-1-1 would suffice. I didn't take any pics due to embarrassment. Should I decrease time or decrease temps? What the best for comps?

For those that read all the way through......thank you and I look forward to your advice.

For those that have judged would you please critique the appearance of these boxes?

And Thanks to Paul at Thepickledpig for some great information!! You should write a book!

Oh yeah and brisket were going to tackle next weekend.

Thanks again! Looking forward to some responses.
 
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I would probably sauce the pork a bit more. Presentation looks great. The greens look real good! What temp did you cook the ribs, or did I miss that?
 
The bottom line for judges is when they ask themselves, 'does the appearance of this entry make me want to eat it?'. If the appearance looks extremely appealing, then it's going to score really high. If the appearance looks OK, then it's going to score 7s. If it looks dry and unkempt . . . it scores lower.

As to your specific techniques, I'll let others chime in here, but it sounds to me as if you're bound for having a lot of fun!
 
I would probably sauce the pork a bit more. Presentation looks great. The greens look real good! What temp did you cook the ribs, or did I miss that?

Good idea about the pork, I will definitely add more sauce next time. I was hesitant to add more sauce because it tasted so good un-sauced, but I guess for comps its should be sauced. Any suggestions how to add a nice glossy look with out powering the pork flavor?

Sorry I didn't say the rib temp. For the first 5 hours it was about 250-260 and for the last hour it was about 225f.
 
Overall it looks good for your first time. I would sauce the pork more. The chicken needs to be cut more uniform. I'm not sure how many thighs you did but we usually do at least 12 for competitions because they will change size/form when you cook them. I wish I had pics of our first boxes, you are light years ahead of us!
 
Forgot to comment about the ribs. I have the same problem with the 3-2-1 when cooking in those temp ranges. We go more like 2:15-1:30-45minutes. We sauce with about 30 minutes to go. Your greens look great
 
How much total liquid did you use in the foil? If they were drowing in liquid, could be the problem.
 
Overall it looks good for your first time. I would sauce the pork more. The chicken needs to be cut more uniform. I'm not sure how many thighs you did but we usually do at least 12 for competitions because they will change size/form when you cook them. I wish I had pics of our first boxes, you are light years ahead of us! Forgot to comment about the ribs. I have the same problem with the 3-2-1 when cooking in those temp ranges. We go more like 2:15-1:30-45minutes. We sauce with about 30 minutes to go. Your greens look great

Yeah today we only did 6 thighs. I'll definitely make a point to do many more. It is amazing how the thighs transformed while cooking.

I'll try your 2:15-1:30-45min method.

Thanks for posting!
 
How much total liquid did you use in the foil? If they were drowing in liquid, could be the problem.

You may be right.

For the foil part, I rolled out some foil, added 3 tbsp parkay, 3 tbsp honey, 1/2 cup q sauce, heavily sprayed with our mop and lightly re-applied the rub. Once this was all in the foil, I placed the ribs meat down and bone up and pushed it into the concoction mentioned above. I guess the meat was probably swimming in juices. Next time should I put ribs in bone down and the other stuff on top?
 
Good idea about the pork, I will definitely add more sauce next time. I was hesitant to add more sauce because it tasted so good un-sauced, but I guess for comps its should be sauced. Any suggestions how to add a nice glossy look with out powering the pork flavor?

Sorry I didn't say the rib temp. For the first 5 hours it was about 250-260 and for the last hour it was about 225f.

I don't cook ribs at those temps, but I would bet that you just cooked them too long. I/we cook at 300 for around 3-4 hours. Pick a temp that works for your cooker and then adjust. I'd try 2-1-1 and see what happens. You may be a little on the not quite done side - but that's easy to fix! :)

Have fun - practice is the best part!
 
I tried the 3-2-1 method before and after picking up a rib I was left holding a bone since all the meat slid off. It was definitely overdone. I think I started doing a 2 1/2-1/2-1/2 method. I'm still playing with it and the temps to see what works best. Also, when I foiled them, I would add some apple juice along with the honey and brown sugar. I think that wasn't helping as far as making them too soft. Next time, I'll fore go the apple juice and see if that works better.
 
I tried the 3-2-1 method before and after picking up a rib I was left holding a bone since all the meat slid off. It was definitely overdone. I think I started doing a 2 1/2-1/2-1/2 method. I'm still playing with it and the temps to see what works best. Also, when I foiled them, I would add some apple juice along with the honey and brown sugar. I think that wasn't helping as far as making them too soft. Next time, I'll fore go the apple juice and see if that works better.

Yeah it's crazy because after the 3 hours on the smoker, I already had 1/2 inch bone exposed and this thing flopped over into a "v"...I knew that these babies were pretty much done but I said screw it I need to try this 3-2-1 method so I wrapped them up and 3 hours later I had Nasty Candy coated pot roast.....

I'm not sure but you may be right about the 1/2 hour. Anymore than that and the steam/and boiling hot sugar may overcook them.
 
That's a lot of liquid to have inside the foil. I had okay luck with 3-2-1 method last year but will probably be changing it this year, but never had them that done as I never loaded the foil down with that much liquid. I would try half the foil time meat down and half the foil time bone done to help keep them from basically boiling in it.
 
That's a lot of liquid to have inside the foil. I had okay luck with 3-2-1 method last year but will probably be changing it this year, but never had them that done as I never loaded the foil down with that much liquid. I would try half the foil time meat down and half the foil time bone done to help keep them from basically boiling in it.

That's a good idea to flip them over half way through the foiling. I will also cut the liquid in half. I will try them again today and post pics later.... wish me luck.
 
You are off to a great start. From a judges perspective the pork was arranged nicly and looked good. Maybe some of the competitors on here can give you some tips on getting a little shine on the pork. From the pic it looked a little dry. Your chicken looked good but the top two pieces have some dark areas on them and the bottom four do not. Either way would do ok score wise as long as the dark areas are a little carmalization but not burnt but they all need to have the color or they all need to not have it. I believe your box would be judged as if a couple of the pieces got away from you. Hope that is helpful. keith
 
Good looking boxes Two Porks. Your on the right track and practice is the key. You need to practice with different methods and techniques to get the shine you want. I don't think everyone does it the same. Some cooks will thin down their sauce or add coloring to it, some will do a totaly seperate finishing glaze and put it on after the meat is in the box. Some people use the spritz method, some mop it on, some brush it on. You just need to practice to get the finish and shine you want. Word of caution to not over do it though. That bright red look can get you in trouble sometime. Some judges like it but some judges think it looks to fake on the meat. Hope to see you at some of the Central Il comps this year.
 
You asked so I'll be brutally honest. The chicken box is a good start but for me it's probably no more than a 7. There are little burned pieces sticking out. That's what manicure scissors are 4. Clean up any of that after cooking and before putting in the box. Using a fine paint brush you can hide the cut with a little bit of sauce. Top right pieces - skin looks funny like maybe it shrunk too much. Remember there's a fine line between 7 and 9 and it's all the very little details.

When practicing my chicken in 2007 I did 2 pans of 10 each. But I quickly realized that extra half hour prep time before putting in pan meant 10 was all I needed. And I do bone in chicken.
 
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