Weber smokefire shipped

Maybe I'm missing something but isn't a K probe a K probe regardless of year (or were previous probes not K? but lesser?)
/the MAK review soured me on BBM and MAK - give a 3500 grill to a YT influencer get 1 video that doesn't cover most of the grill and the reviewer is splooging over it? (combine that with his reviews of the Weber Egg knock off culminating in a personal call from the president of Weber). That being said - I thought he still produced entertaining videos and his handling of the Weber pellet thing was bar none one of the most exemplary cases of honesty/integrity I've seen in a YouTube review.
//still amused by his approach to his Mak video - if I ever meet him I'd definitely buy him a drink (or more)

BBM video had older style pin probes on that version of the MAK. Where are you coming up with $3,500? MAK 2 Star is $2,800 including shipping. Yeah, I give BBM credit for calling out the Weber SmokeFire for what it is - a dumpster fire.
 
BBM video had older style pin probes on that version of the MAK. Where are you coming up with $3,500? MAK 2 Star is $2,800 including shipping. Yeah, I give BBM credit for calling out the Weber SmokeFire for what it is - a dumpster fire.

The $3500 was the base cost + the WiFi module (which he tested - had issues with - never followed up on) + taxes + w/e other things he got with the unit that didn't make the video.

Credit where credit is do - I think his coverage of the Weber dumpster fire has been on point.
 
The $3500 was the base cost + the WiFi module (which he tested - had issues with - never followed up on) + taxes + w/e other things he got with the unit that didn't make the video.



Credit where credit is do - I think his coverage of the Weber dumpster fire has been on point.



Yep, MAK’s ain’t cheap. It’s an investment, not a purchase :)
 
How does the smoke profile compare to other smokers/grills you've owned?

It's on par with the MAK 2 Star but not as heavy a smoke profile as the Pitts & Spitts. However, this goes through 3-4x the pellets for the same time/temp. It's actually pretty ridiculous how many pellets this thing goes through.

I burned an entire 20lb bag with the 1hr burn in @ 600F and then 2hrs at 450 on a couple different cooks. Silly.

One thing I don't see many people mentioning but the temps in this cooker drop really fast when you open the door. It was 70F and slight breeze today and I was rolling at 265F. When I opened briefly to turn the ribs and rotate it would drop about 100F and take about 7 minutes to fully recover. Door was probably open 15-20 seconds tops.
 
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Maybe I'm missing something but isn't a K probe a K probe regardless of year (or were previous probes not K? but lesser?)
/the MAK review soured me on BBM and MAK - give a 3500 grill to a YT influencer get 1 video that doesn't cover most of the grill and the reviewer is splooging over it? (combine that with his reviews of the Weber Egg knock off culminating in a personal call from the president of Weber). That being said - I thought he still produced entertaining videos and his handling of the Weber pellet thing was bar none one of the most exemplary cases of honesty/integrity I've seen in a YouTube review.
//still amused by his approach to his Mak video - if I ever meet him I'd definitely buy him a drink (or more)

BBM did three videos on the MAC and I believe the mac was just a loaner.

Video 1. https://youtu.be/l6JZwO0HKhk

Video 2. https://youtu.be/-88rTFaynAQ

Video 3. https://youtu.be/19rRJgY5uAM
 
Hence why I'd like to try what they can put out before potentially going that route.:confused:

+1. For a homeowner to invest in a $3k pellet grill it would be nice to have a way to at least try one before they buy it. Do they have a dealer network where you can go and at least use the demo model.

Chris
 
So I ordered a SmokeFire, before I got it, problems started arising, then I get the call mine was in and I turned it down. I just didn’t see a reason to pay to be a crash test dummy!

My thought was version 2.0 would be ready to cook on and I’d buy one then.

After the way the problems of the grill were handled, or not handled, however you wanna look at it, pretty sure I wouldn’t buy version 2.0 no matter what.

Back to pondering between MAK and Yoder, but for now the GMG just keeps puffin’.

What makes you want to switch from GMG? I'm pondering a new grill purchase and am leaning towards a GMG for my budget. I realize mak/Yoder are in a whole other class, I'm just curious what's pushing you towards a big upgrade.
 
+1. For a homeowner to invest in a $3k pellet grill it would be nice to have a way to at least try one before they buy it. Do they have a dealer network where you can go and at least use the demo model.

Chris



They used to have dealers, but went direct a few years ago. You can either buy direct from MAK or online through Big Poppa Smokers.
 
They used to have dealers, but went direct a few years ago. You can either buy direct from MAK or online through Big Poppa Smokers.

That's my recollection - either direct or through the one dealer based in Southern California (I went to a BJs restaurant and was surprised to find they use the BPS rub on their babybacks - sadly when I went on Presidents day they were out of the babybacks so I couldn't taste his rub).
 
+1. For a homeowner to invest in a $3k pellet grill it would be nice to have a way to at least try one before they buy it. Do they have a dealer network where you can go and at least use the demo model.

Chris

I agree that trying the food produced by a $3K pellet grill before dropping that kind of coin is prudent. I've owned a few different pellet grills (2 Traegers and Char Griller) before owning my Mak. I didn't care for the food put out by any of those....but, that's also before I owned a stick burner where I may have grown more accustomed to a lighter smoke profile that results from running a clean fire.

BUT

I bought my Mak 2* used and it's an early serial number. It was incredibly dirty...maybe never had been cleaned? I spent quite a bit of time cleaning it out and bringing it back to its former glory over several weeks...maybe months...and it was basically perfect under all that neglect. It's been dead nuts reliable since I bought it almost a year ago. I had one weird temp fluctuation issue due to a dirty temp probe but it was easily fixed. Someday I'll probably buy a new one that has some of the updated features but I'm very happy with it as is.

It doesn't have quite the character of the food I cook on my stick burner, if I had to place a number on it I'd say like 85%, but 85% of a Shirley is still pretty darn good and it lets me cook when I otherwise might not be able to.

The point to my rambling is this - while I think my Mak 2* puts out food that really works for my preferences, that price tag buys a quality built cooker that will tolerate _a lot_ of abuse (hopefully you dont) and keep on ticking. If you want to see what my 2* looked like before and after as a testament to their quality, click here.
 
I agree that trying the food produced by a $3K pellet grill before dropping that kind of coin is prudent. I've owned a few different pellet grills (2 Traegers and Char Griller) before owning my Mak. I didn't care for the food put out by any of those....but, that's also before I owned a stick burner where I may have grown more accustomed to a lighter smoke profile that results from running a clean fire.

BUT

I bought my Mak 2* used and it's an early serial number. It was incredibly dirty...maybe never had been cleaned? I spent quite a bit of time cleaning it out and bringing it back to its former glory over several weeks...maybe months...and it was basically perfect under all that neglect. It's been dead nuts reliable since I bought it almost a year ago. I had one weird temp fluctuation issue due to a dirty temp probe but it was easily fixed. Someday I'll probably buy a new one that has some of the updated features but I'm very happy with it as is.

It doesn't have quite the character of the food I cook on my stick burner, if I had to place a number on it I'd say like 85%, but 85% of a Shirley is still pretty darn good and it lets me cook when I otherwise might not be able to.

The point to my rambling is this - while I think my Mak 2* puts out food that really works for my preferences, that price tag buys a quality built cooker that will tolerate _a lot_ of abuse (hopefully you dont) and keep on ticking. If you want to see what my 2* looked like before and after as a testament to their quality, click here.

I read your other thread. Good cleanup and restoration. :thumb::clap2:

I don’t know what you paid for that Mac but I bet I was inexpensive enough that it was worth the risk even if you didn’t like it. If that kind of deal came along I would probably jump on it knowing I could get back most of all of my money if I didn’t like it.
 
What makes you want to switch from GMG? I'm pondering a new grill purchase and am leaning towards a GMG for my budget. I realize mak/Yoder are in a whole other class, I'm just curious what's pushing you towards a big upgrade.


Other than more cooking space in basically the same footprint because of the racks that can be added, it’s and upgrade on everything. Hopper, auger, hot rod, controller, wifi, app, stainless steel and powdercoating. I’m in no way knocking the GMG, we’ve cooked a ton of great food on it but we bought it to see what we thought of pellet cooking and we’re sold on it!
 
For those that have the Weber SF Pellet Grill and if I had one and really wanted to keep it, the Modifications I would definitely do to solve/fix the grease fire issues are these.
1. I would use a heat diffuser plate similar to the style/design that is used in the Pit Boss Pellet grills... They’re actually the length of the cooking chamber and sits at the bottom of the cooking chamber and directly on the Fire Pot... To give you an idea, here’s a couple of pics.


2. I would then modify the diffuser plate to have it slanted downwards on both sides to channel the grease flow away from the fire pot. I would then have 2 exit holes at the opposite ends of the grill and attach a grease bucket their to collect the grease runoff. I also would still use the OEM Weber SF heat diffuser and place it inside the modified diffuser plate and centered covering the fire pot. I know those that don’t have Pellet Grills may not have a clue of what I’m trying to describe, but those that have one should.
3. I know the Pit Boss Heat Diffusers dimensions wouldn’t fit inside the Weber SF, but the idea/logic is to have a diffuser plate that is able to channel the grease flow runoff away from the fire pot... and I’m sure any local Machine Shop could do it if given the dimensions of your Weber SF grill. If done correctly, there would be no need to add a drip pan to collect the grease runoff and the Flavorizer bars can still perform their intended functions as well as high temp grilling and searing. Is it extra work to modify it?? Yes... Can it work? Yes. I’m just thinking outside the box and something the Engineers at Weber should have thought of in the first place. To bad I can’t patent this idea... Pit Boss already beat me to it years ago and I guess Weber engineers weren’t paying attention, but I was. Weber could still use it and call it their grease runoff plate for the SmokeFire v2 remix... If there is one...
 

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Other than more cooking space in basically the same footprint because of the racks that can be added, it’s and upgrade on everything. Hopper, auger, hot rod, controller, wifi, app, stainless steel and powdercoating. I’m in no way knocking the GMG, we’ve cooked a ton of great food on it but we bought it to see what we thought of pellet cooking and we’re sold on it!

That's what I figured. I love the YS640S, just can't afford one, which is why the GMG has my interest.
 
For those that have the Weber SF Pellet Grill and if I had one and really wanted to keep it, the Modifications I would definitely do to solve/fix the grease fire issues are these.
1. I would use a heat diffuser plate similar to the style/design that is used in the Pit Boss Pellet grills... They’re actually the length of the cooking chamber and sits at the bottom of the cooking chamber and directly on the Fire Pot... To give you an idea, here’s a couple of pics.


2. I would then modify the diffuser plate to have it slanted downwards on both sides to channel the grease flow away from the fire pot. I would then have 2 exit holes at the opposite ends of the grill and attach a grease bucket their to collect the grease runoff. I also would still use the OEM Weber SF heat diffuser and place it inside the modified diffuser plate and centered covering the fire pot. I know those that don’t have Pellet Grills may not have a clue of what I’m trying to describe, but those that have one should.
3. I know the Pit Boss Heat Diffusers dimensions wouldn’t fit inside the Weber SF, but the idea/logic is to have a diffuser plate that is able to channel the grease flow runoff away from the fire pot... and I’m sure any local Machine Shop could do it if given the dimensions of your Weber SF grill. If done correctly, there would be no need to add a drip pan to collect the grease runoff and the Flavorizer bars can still perform their intended functions as well as high temp grilling and searing. Is it extra work to modify it?? Yes... Can it work? Yes. I’m just thinking outside the box and something the Engineers at Weber should have thought of in the first place. To bad I can’t patent this idea... Pit Boss already beat me to it years ago and I guess Weber engineers weren’t paying attention, but I was. Weber could still use it and call it their grease runoff plate for the SmokeFire v2 remix... If there is one...

I’m sorry, I should have posted this idea on the Weber SmokeFire Returned thread.. My bad. I hope the idea/info helps anyway.
 
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