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Jackson, MS - Give it to God - Video
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dmprantz
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I respectfully and publically suggest that you use your YouTube channel and get a facebook page. Get a blog and a website dedicated to you if you don't already have them, and publicize your videos all you want from those locations. You obviously have a cause, and that's understandable, but I don't think this forum is the appropriate venue to proselytise. Just as cooks don't come here to talk about how great their degreaser sponsor or their disease affiliated causes are every week, I think telling the brethren how great your religeon is after every competition would fall into the same bucket, but doubly so because relegion itslef is a touchy subject in a public forum. I'm happy that you are happy with your faith, but please keep it to yourself and your own web pages.
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Teamfour
is One Chatty Farker
Another great video. Congrats on a good showing.
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Teamfour
is One Chatty Farker
Wow, just wow. If you see a post from Jeff just skip over it. Kind of like passing over the religious channels on TV.
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dmprantz
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That's often sentiment from people who agree with the original post, but I wonder if your tune would change if a person posted videos claiming how Islam was the only true religeon and that the prophet Muhammed was the one to believe. Please remember that I stated my requests respectfully, and responses should be in the same tone....
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YokeUp
Full Fledged Farker
I respectfully submit that you just pass by my posts and read those that are of intefest ti you. people who compete at the contests i attend appteciate the record i provide and the message as well. i promise not to dictate what you postor where you post it and i thank God that i can choose to read it or not. Freedom is precious!
jgbmgb
is one Smokin' Farker
Great video! Keep em coming!! Dmprantz, if you don't agree with or like the video just don't look at any more of them.
jgbmgb
is one Smokin' Farker
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dmprantz
is Blowin Smoke!
I never dictated. I suggested. Your freedom comes from your government, not your deity. Regardless, if you're going to continue to preach religion in a non-religious environment, you shouldn't be surprised nor get so offended that others find in inappropriate.
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jgbmgb
is one Smokin' Farker
"Your freedom comes from your government, not your deity"
WOW!! Nuff said right there!!!
WOW!! Nuff said right there!!!
dmprantz
is Blowin Smoke!
And your condescending point is? Do you refute that the freedoms of speech and religion are guaranteed by the government of the US? Do you think your religion would allow you those some freedoms if you were living in, say, Iran?
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Teamfour
is One Chatty Farker
I would just pass over that post. Or I may watch it to be exposed to a different point of view and perhaps learn something.
For the record, I am not overly religious, and honestly sometimes find Jeff's posts a little over the top. But I respect his freedom to make his posts and really like the photos that are in his videos.
I used to be very single minded when it came to other's views. But I have mellowed over the years. Life is too short for me get worked up over people's views.
Teamfour
is One Chatty Farker
Respectfully, this is not technically true. Congress recognized freedom of expression as a God given right. The first amendment says Congress will not pass laws to interfere with those rights.
dmprantz
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Thank you. I have no problems with this beliefs, and encourage him to hold them as high as he wants. From what I have seen of his videos though, they are less about competition BBQ, and more about telling those who watch them how great his is religion is. I just don't find the BBQ Brethren the appropriate venue for that message. I'm not the first person to publically state that belief on this forum. Just as it has been suggested several times already that I pass over his threads, it could be said that people could read my calm posts in response to them, ingest the content, and make a decision without lashing out at me for having opinions.
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dmprantz
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We're getting a bit off-point from my intent, but I'm not familiar with the legal document which defines the freedom of expression as a "god given right." Care to share a reference to that? Regardless of how the government arrived at the conclusion though, I maintain that it is the government, not a religion, that allows citizens in this country to have freedom. We may just have to agree to disagree though.
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Teamfour
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Declaration of Independence. Here is a good reference for interpreting the document: http://www.lonang.com/conlaw/1/c12b.htm
I like that we can agree to disagree. I'm usually not this passionate about things, but as a Legislative Specialist on the Hill, some things just trigger my brain to respond. Sorry if I came off heavy-handed.
dmprantz
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Thanks. I'm familliar with with the DoI to a point, but looking at the text, "God" is mentioned exactly one time in reference to the "equal station" to which people are entitled that was a cause for war. Regardless of how the founders came to a the conclusion, I think it would be hard to argue that the government protects certain rights.
No problem. I'm sure I'd be out of my league trying to argue some aspects of the government with you. My main goal here is to make it known that yet another person finds this inapporpiate. It's not like I'm the first person to voice these concerns and similar threads haven't been moved in the past as a result. Just sayin....
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YokeUp
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I'm not surprized, or offended...no reason to be. inappropriate in this case is subjective.... and Everything comes from God.
YokeUp
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Hey, I would LOOOOOOOVE to see this... I would welcome a Muslim to compete in 35 Professional BBQ competitions in a two year stand, competing in all 4 categories including pork and having him record pictures and vides of everyone in attendance, mill around, talk to people, offer to help, and preach Islam with his trailer, and team... That I would Love to see and I would welcome the opportunity to sit down for some long chats with the person and we could even make joint-collaboration videos.... I'm all for it. BBQ for me is a ministry... It's as much BBQ as pits, meats, rubs and marinades.
dmprantz
is Blowin Smoke!
Let me try to say this differently, and still respectfully. BBQ may be your ministry, but The BBQ Brethren is not, and should not be, a part of your ministry. I suggested that you find and use other mechanisms on The Internet to include in your ministry and deliver your message via those. Minister all you want, but understand that to some of us, it's only about "pits, meats, rubs, and marinades." Please don't continue to attempt to turn our forum into your church by continuing to host "revivals" here. We get it. You like god, but please minister it elsewhere.
Respectfully submitted,
Daniel
