BBQ Brethren "Burger" Throwdown

burgers are served on a bun so i disqualify meself. :tsk:

Rick's Tropical Delight said:

burgers are served on a bun so i disqualify meself. :tsk:

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No.... that's cr@p. I had this problem with the sandwich throwdown, A burger is a subcategory of a sandwich. After Chris and I cleared that up, I fluked watching a show on Cable (yes, we have that over here strung up between 2 gum trees with animal skins chucked over the top to make a nice humpy...)

Anyway, the show was about the history of the burger. Throughout the whole show, they CONSTANTLY referred to burgers as sandwiches.... AND importantly, the restaurant officially credited with making the first burger, which is still in business today, first served their burgers on WHITE SANDWICH Bread...

So there... You're in Bro!

Smokey Al Gold said:

I guess I was under the assumption that I had made a chicken burger. I got that idea after looking at the burger throwdown example picture which is a meat other than beef and wanted to do something different. True it is not ground it never even donned on me that what I made was not a chicken burger. My heart is broken into a million pieces and I don't know how I'll ever make it through this ordeal. I wasn't trying to bend rules I really thought I had made a chicken burger. Oh well fair is fair. Can I at least consider this a zero?

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that first one is a great photo and it looks like it could be a ground chicken burger coated in panko. i'd say you used a coarse screen when grinding that chicken. :idea:

Rick's Tropical Delight said:

that first one is a great photo and it looks like it could be a ground chicken burger coated in panko. i'd say you used a coarse screen when grinding that chicken. :idea:

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It was as course ground as you can get :-D. Maybe I can use the grind filter in photoshop :-D

The all-American burger is served on Wonderbread and not a bun, so I guess it's DQ'ed also. Just saved me some time, cause I didn't use a bun either. Whatever happened to the "let the voters decide" rule. Seems that one was fair. But I guess we've got a whale-shaggin', tree-schmoozin', Chez-snackin' communist running things now who assumes the people are too stupid to make their own decisions for themselves and has to make them for us. I wish Bigabyte would find his foil hat again. He rants much better than I do. Landarc, are you in Chris' head? I'm sorry I only left some beans and scattered bits of foil for you. Perhaps you can leave Chris' head if you're there and come back. I'll try to slip a few beef ribs in there!

bigabyte said:

Let's not let this get out of control. I really hope my correction doesn't steer this thing towards overcorrection, or lead to too much nitpicking.

I think if someone submits a patty of ground meat or (heavens forbid) ground meat substitute, that will qualify enough to get into the voting thread.

What I would hate to see is someone submit a pulled pork sandwich, or a whole brisket, or something else along those lines. That is why I am putting in this rule, to allow for any mischief to be handled.

Smokey Al was not trying to trick anyone, or do anything mischevious, and I totally understand where he was coming from and originally was going to let this one be decided by the voters. I meant no ill will towards anyone by taking this step.

The reason I did something is because I just know that some joker or jokers out there somewhere could take that case as a reason to start submitting entries that are not really in the category at hand. Call me paranoid, but I think some people like stirring up controversy and this is simply to avoid a clear issue that can be addressed simply.

We just all need to come to grips with it really. I don't think it is out of hand, but then since I came up with the idea I'm biased perhaps.

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But it will lead to overcorrection. I now would whole-heartedly agree with Rick. The fun will go out of these contests, especially with "prizes" on the line. There will be no end to the nit-picking and this will no longer be fun. Let the voters decide is the best course of action.

For me, some of the best entries are the ones that seek a novel method of overcoming the obstacle. We had two cases of boneless ribs in the last throwdown. They are outstanding examples, both novel and superb, one even a sandwich! Would this be submitted if the participant had to guess whether to submit this based on an arbitrary definition of what is a rib? Whose loss would that be? What about chops and nuggets? You'd have to personally approve every entry and contend with objections. Your life would be hell!

Personally, if someone submits a pulled pork sandwich or brisket, I don't think they'd receive many votes. One demonstration of this was last contest with two entries of bone in ribeyes or prime rib. These look completely delicious, but last I looked the voters seemed to feel the entrants pushed the envelope a bit too far (or not far enough perhaps). To me this demonstrates the voters can decide these matters.

As far as zeros go. I had no idea this would be such a status symbol -- go figure. I have no problem with lots of members, but will happily disband the club if it is causing this heartache. For me these throwdowns are one of the best parts of this site and I would not like to see them compromised.

Nope... All good here!

Well here is my throwdown entry. First I am avid goose hunter and have tons of goose breast in the freezer so I found a recipe to goose burgers from DU. So after some time in the grinder and some spices I present the goose burger. The burger has all kinds of goodies in it bacon, relish, onion, garlic powder, can o tomatoes. Then enter grill with some zukini and the burgers with some cherry wood. The burger has the normal stuff lettuce, tomato, onion, BUN, and smoked bacon cedar cheese.Finally pictures with some tools of the trade!:becky: Please use the third pictures as my throwdown entry.:clap2:

I luuuurve Goose... man that looks super!

I don't think anybody will cry Foul; over this entry....but; you might want to
Duck...in case some Turkey does turn out to be a Pigeon.

I am really sorry for causing all these problems.

When I called "burgers" it really seemed like such a simple idea. Let's face it, burgers were not meant to be controversial. They were not meant to change well established institutions. I should have gone with my first instincts and called "puff pastry." I could've been a contender in that one. I'm not sure if I can compete with all these impressive burgers. You guys have outdone yourselves, multitasking grilling with all this drama. :drama:

Gore said:

For me, some of the best entries are the ones that seek a novel method of overcoming the obstacle. We had two cases of boneless ribs in the last throwdown. They are outstanding examples, both novel and superb, one even a sandwich! Would this be submitted if the participant had to guess whether to submit this based on an arbitrary definition of what is a rib? Whose loss would that be? What about chops and nuggets? You'd have to personally approve every entry and contend with objections. Your life would be hell!

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I'd like to point out one more thing. I believe you're referring to me. I wasn't sure these would pass and it is why I took a picture of the label of the meat. I'm glad you approve, but it is not surprising coming from a guy who used smoked parsley on a garnish of prime rib for the vegetable throwdown. :thumb:

I hate to see this bickering(funny as it may be) We just don't want anything to bring the throwdowns to a halt. This is one of the best things we love about this forum. I didn't ind making the Zero club and will wear the badge with honor. Keep up the good work Bigabyte.

This is my first time entering a Throwdown so we shall see how it goes. Its a grilled burger with whole grilled onions, thick cut sliced bacon, double cheddar cheese, homemade secret sauce and lettuce on a sesame seed bun. Good luck to all!!

Smoked Goose's middle photo just kills me, that goose deke on the left is hilarious.