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... how much time depends on the pit temp and the size of the racks. There is no way that any of us can tell you that 2-2-1 or 2-1.5-.5 or whatever is right for you. they are all just guidelines.
Any time suggestion is meaningless without a temperature recommendation. It should be pretty obvious that anything will cook faster given a higher temperature.


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Finally, I know it won't matter, but I think cooking on a new smoker and cooking something that you have never cooked before for a big event like a Super Bowl party is a mistake. You're putting a lot of pressure on yourself. Personally I would get the brisket today and cook it overnight tonight just in case something goes wrong. That give you time to recover. You can slice the brisket, vac-u-suck it, and then reheat it in the bag in boiling water to serve. (If you don't have a vacuum sealer, get one :-D)
I could not agree more. Best not to experiment with company. Cooking really good 'Q is a skill worthy of the time and effort to learn, but you want to know that you can hit your mark before you have a bunch of hungry friends waiting for food!
 
There are merits to the different ways. Different ways/methods, different cooking temperatures [measured on the cooking surface; NOT the external mounted thermometer], all yield slightly different results and hugely different times.

I do BB's, cooking surface temp is 260+-, 1.5 on smoke, 2.5+- in foil, and I then apply heated sauce ever-so-lightly on it and serve; no 3rd out-of-foil cook. It works for me, you're mileage may vary. I also soak them overnight after pulling the membranes in a water, apple juice, worchestershire, and ice mixture before putting on the rub and cooking them. BB's done like this, on average, the meat will pull cleanly from the bone with a slight resistance. It's an MiM/MBN/GBA standard (for what it's worth). KCBS would be more of a bite-through rib, and for that rib I'd do a 1.5 on smoke and probably a 1.75-2.0 in foil. For just falling apart, try 1.5 smoke and 2.75-3.0 in foil. The amount of time on smoke (before foiling) has more to do with the type of wood you're smoking with, the amount of smoke your smoker imparts to the meat, and the amount of smoke you desire in the taste of your ribs...

Brisket, I trim the fat cap enough to get the really hard fat off but not remove it, inject it lightly with a thinned solution from Butchers (which was made the day before), apply the rub just before putting on the smoker; smoke for 4 or 5 hours, then foil for the remainder of time; also cooked in that 260 range. Takes roughly 1 hour per pound.

Not that you should do exactly as I do and have done. There are LOTS of ways to get there. However, dont use one persons temperature range and expect to get them done in another persons time frame. Also, when talking temperature, let me stress again that we're talking cooking SURFACE temperature, measured on the surface itself. Most external mounted thermometers, depending on where they're located and how hot a fire you have going, are off, high or low, some by 50 degrees or MORE. I have one offset that consistently measures the temperature 40 degrees HIGHER than the surface, another offset (different design and placement of the thermometer) measures the temperature 30 degrees LOWER than the surface temperature.

I havent seen where anyone above has talked about their first cook on a new smoker. Some go very well, others are a disaster, with most being somewhere in between, most not being nearly as good as they'd hoped. Know that it's a learning process; dont expect to win the superbowl the first time you play football. Same with BBQ... What I'm suggesting is have a plan B at hand. It's very possible that you may want to call Domino's... I hope not; I hope it works out great. However, in looking at the questions that you're asking above, it seems to me that you're at the very beginning of this journey. Expect that you'll have failures along the way. It's all part of the learning.

Good luck; I hope your team wins.
thanks for the detailed input :) ive been learning a lot and i sure didnt think that i would get such a good turn out on this post lol but thank you all so much
 
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Any time suggestion is meaningless without a temperature recommendation. It should be pretty obvious that anything will cook faster given a higher temperature.


And this.

I could not agree more. Best not to experiment with company. Cooking really good 'Q is a skill worthy of the time and effort to learn, but you want to know that you can hit your mark before you have a bunch of hungry friends waiting for food!
i agree also but im keeping really low key so only a few of my best buds are coming over and know its my first time so if they want free food hahah

i told them 50/50 chance its good or bad haha
 
with the ribs you're looking at 90/10 they're good.
brisket well, best of luck first time out. :twisted:
 
i told them 50/50 chance its good or bad haha
That's good. At worst you will give them the opportunity to remind you "Remember that time ... Ha-ha-ha"

Personally, I think that any time I can bring that much joy into the lives of my friends with so little effort on my part, that's a win. :rofl: (Of course there will be a bit of effort that goes into the food prep.)

with the ribs you're looking at 90/10 they're good.
brisket well, best of luck first time out. :twisted:
Agreed.
I think the brisket will taste good regardless. It just might be tough.
 
Forget the brisket with ribs. grab one or two pork tenderloins, that's always a crowd pleaser and similar cooking time/ temps as ribs. Almost set it and forget it really. Dude I just did a bacon wrapped tenderloin yesterday that knocked my socks off.


RIBS: Mine fall off the bone. Temp 250 approx 3 hours
You need to marinade overnight with:
1 liter ginger ale
1 qt orange juice
1 1/4 cps soy sauce
1/2 cup salt
2 1oz packets of dry ranch dressing mix.

This will cover about one good rack of ribs so adjust accordingly
I put mine in 2 gal zip lock bags

My rub is:
[FONT=&quot]1 cup brown sugar[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1 tbsp chili powder
1tbsp dry mustard
2 tbsp salt[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 tablespoons black pepper
2 teaspoons garlic powder
2 teaspoons onion powder
1 teaspoon dried basil[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]My Sauce is:[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]Ingredients[/FONT]

  • [FONT=&quot]2 cups ketchup[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]1 cup water[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]1/2 cup apple cider vinegar[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]½ tablespoon hickory liquid smoke[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]½ tsp garlic powder[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]1/2 tablespoon fresh ground black pepper[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]1/2 tablespoon onion powder[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]1/2 tablespoon ground mustard[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]1 tablespoon lemon juice[/FONT]
  • [FONT=&quot]1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Directions[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In a medium saucepan, combine all ingredients. Bring mixture to a boil, reduce heat to simmer. Cook uncovered, stirring frequently, for 1 hour 15 minutes. [/FONT]





After 45 minutes of smoking spritz ribs every 15 minutes with:
mixture of the following in a fine spray -spray bottle

3 cups apple juice
2 cups white wine vinegar
2 tablespoons imitation butter (comes in like a vanilla extract bottle in the seasoning section)

after 2 hours of smoking, put in a pan with apple juice and cover with foil for about an hour.

I use a combo of pecan wood and apple wood- promise you these will be the best ribs you have done!

Dont forget, after you take them out of the pit, leave them covered for 15minutes to rest
 
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just noticed baby backs, i use that marinade for spare ribs so you could probably get 2 racks in one bag of that marinade.
 
just noticed baby backs, i use that marinade for spare ribs so you could probably get 2 racks in one bag of that marinade.

Marinating or boiling ribs is a BBQ Abomination. You are leaching out the pork flavor.
 
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Any time suggestion is meaningless without a temperature recommendation. It should be pretty obvious that anything will cook faster given a higher temperature.

BBQing Ribs is not done by time and temp. It ain't baking a cake.
 
3. There is nothing magical about 225, 250, 275 or 300 degrees. You'll find that you WSM has a sweet spot where it will cook all day. Figure out what that it and cook at that temp and you have fewer headaches and get great results.

I've found that the higher temp of 270 results in the ribs not being greasy like they were when cooked at 225-250
 
LA 433, what it really comes down to is there is no right or wrong way to do great BBQ. It will just take time to find what style of cooking gives you the results you are looking for. If you like the results, then it's good BBQ.

In hindsight, waiting until 4 days before the cook to ask for help was probably not a good idea. As stated before, good BBQ is a result of trial and error. Good luck with your cook and keep us posted how it turns out. Pictures of your cook are always welcomed.
 
When I did my first rack of baby backs I used the 321 @250ish. They came out great. It was in my UDS with a diffuser.
Keep in mind that I could mimic someone in Texas and have different results because of a number of variables. Elevation, humidity, the meat it's self.
I'd check it every 15 from the 3hr mark. Ultimately the bend test will produce the best consistancy like the probe on brisket and the bone pulling out of a Butt. Temp and time are nothing more than a guideline as to when to check your meat.
 
Ok I really appreciate everyone's advice and understand there a million ways to skin a cat hahah ...

So I threw on a single rack of bbs with a bunch if bacon to really grease it up and was sticking with the 3-2-1 to test it before the big game and its been running at 270 with all the bottom vents closed and the top open so I'm sure that's going to change my outcome not being able to hold 225.....I threw the rack on at 2 so any suggestions ??
 
Haha I pulled them out at 2 hours and wrapped for 1 hour. Then ill sauce for 30 mins and do the bend test lol ....ill keep u posted
 
You can put them on a small meat rack that will fit in the tin pan, pour apple juice in the bottom and cover for the last hour, mmmmmmmgood
 
Turned out pretty damn good but then again haha
 

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