Seymour Butts
Knows what a fatty is.
- Joined
- Jul 25, 2009
- Location
- Seymour,TN
Whew!!!!!
I know, I know, LOLhaha, i love this place!!
I seems to me that we are faced with the “problem” that English is a living and growing language. Clamor was once a kind of sword, now it’s expanded to include kind of explosive. Corvette was once a kind of military ship, now it’s expanded to include a kind of car. Mercedes was once a proper name for a girl, now it’s also expanded to include a kind of car, green was once just a color, now it’s expanded to include a movement and a life style. Barbeque may very well once have been just about pork (I don’t know, I wasn’t there); but, it seems to me that it has expanded beyond that.
:icon_pissed this guy !!!My point is just as I have stated.
BBQ is an act, a verb. For a couple of hundred years when people said let's eat BBQ, they meant pulled pork. I guess you could say that they were wrong using the term in that manner. I am not really arguing that. I am just saying that traditionally, BBQ is pork. Only in the past few decades has BBQ been anything other than that. Not so hard to grasp really.
I am not a greenhorn. I am not new to this at all. It is wrong to make the assumption that just because I recently happened across this forum that I just started cooking using traditional methods. I have simply just started using the UDS. Previously, we always built pits temporarily. Cinder blocks, tin and re bar. Works great, labor intensive but easy and cheap. So not a greenhorn. You should stop with the personal attacks. Most of what I have stated is history. Most of what I keep getting back is opinion. They don't mix well.
I didn't get all my knowledge from the internet either and I resent the insinuation. Records from the first Spanish forays into the new world are housed at the University of Florida at Gainesville. You can get access to them if you have a scholarly interest I am sure. I had someone who was functional in 16th century Spanish translate some things for me several years back while I was working on a Native American history project for the local university.
My point is just as I have stated.
BBQ is an act, a verb. For a couple of hundred years when people said let's eat BBQ, they meant pulled pork. I guess you could say that they were wrong using the term in that manner. I am not really arguing that. I am just saying that traditionally, BBQ is pork. Only in the past few decades has BBQ been anything other than that. Not so hard to grasp really.
Amen - we're all here to share and learn. Nice to see another FL presence by the way!
Thanks I'm not in Florida anymore, I'm back in SC now. But if I couldn't be here, I would love to be there.
Zydeco,
Are Webster's Dictionary and the Oxford English dictionary not real books? See this is why I think this is a gang up party. You must not have even read what I posted earlier. Seems like you're just jumping on the bandwagon. I have presented facts and their sources.
At this point, it is clear that no amount of other evidence is going to convince you to come off your beliefs; I believe I will go have a beer and read other posts from folks who have something worthwhile to offer.
Barbacoa was made with cow cheeks BEEF, and goat (Cabrito) in differing regions. It's basically what they had or what was regionally available.
I told a story once of leaving Texas and going into Tennessee and the Carolinas and refusing to eat pork BBQ for the same reason you say Beef is not BBQ. Ignorance and inflexibility. I can say that about myself so please don't get all half-cocked and pissy 'cuz I directed it at you.