Pete and I have talked a few times, comparing notes. They're mustard on folks, whereas I'm a marinade the ribs type, otherwise we're almost identical, including the foil, but they put a little more A/J than I do because I've already marinaded mine in A/J/water... Depending on temps, BB's, +- 4 hours total. They do 2 out of foil, 2+- in foil, with 15 at end. I do 1.5 out of foil, 2.5 in foil, and I'll just brush on the very hot sauce at the end (the set up time in the box is plenty, IMHO). I knew our rubs were very similar, and they are. Mine has less sugar in it...