KCBS membership demographics by state

Yea I was a lil surprised by some of the totals
Them North Easters are doing a good job in the numbers

Let's have a round of applause for the one member in Hawaii! Is he/she a Brethren?:-D

Wow, I would never of thought California would have had that many members.
Good for us! We do know good BBQ out here, must be the 365 days of great weather.

And now, in the witless number-crunching events:
I'll be interested to figure out each state's ratio of contests/members, and the average for the six-state area where we range as compared to other parts of the country.

NY number 10!!


heres the numbers in Excel. Easier to read.

Phil,

Small correction to the spreadsheet. NY has 7 contests next year not including Grilling only.

Rochester, Lake Placid, Boston, Troy, New Paltz, Buffalo and Sayville. and yes I mean Boston NY
These are the ones sanctioned already now that is not to say a few more might not pop up

42 farken contests in Missouri.......

Never a dull moment! :twisted:

Didn't see Puerto Rico...they were at the Jack

I knew God put me here right in the middle for a reason.

Man, lots of members in OH, now we just have to work on MORE contests.....

So this is proof that KCBS has grown beyond Kansas City? Not trying to stir anything up. Seems to me a lot of talk has been about how KCBS is not just about Kansas City, yet the KS and MO numbers seem to indicate otherwise. I'm personally good with it being more nationally focused. Do we have a change from previous year to measure against to show this growth? If not, then I guess this is the benchmark to set for measuring next years numbers against.

chew on this

Here's some numbers crunched, (thanks for the spreadsheet Phil) It seems the North East in general and New England specifically are way ahead in Certification and woefully underserved in contest oppertunities.


On the surface of these stats NE BBQ is far more difficult to win or place. And the KCBS needs to attend to cultivating organizers and contests.


Members/CBJ's/contest#'s

New England 250 208 4
New York 331 269 5
KCBS 9,811 7,370 261

% CBJ's
KCBS 75.1
NY 81.3
New England 83.2

# Members per contest

NY/NE 64.6
KCBS 37.6

BBQchef33 said:

NY number 10!!


heres the numbers in Excel. Easier to read.

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Actually NY is Number 9!

But who's counting?

ihbobry said:

Here's some numbers crunched, (thanks for the spreadsheet Phil) It seems the North East in general and New England specifically are way ahead in Certification and woefully underserved in contest oppertunities.


On the surface of these stats NE BBQ is far more difficult to win or place. And the KCBS needs to attend to cultivating organizers and contests.


Members/CBJ's/contest#'s

New England 250 208 4
New York 331 269 5
KCBS 9,811 7,370 261

% CBJ's
KCBS 75.1
NY 81.3
New England 83.2

# Members per contest

NY/NE 64.6
KCBS 37.6

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I don't think you can use # of members/contest to assess how hard/easy it is to win in a given area... Applying the total # of CBJ's into a % of total is not fair since it is very possibly that CBJ's are not the one's competing.

What KCBS doesn't show in these #'s is the breakdown of registered competition teams per state which is part of what would be needed to determine where the ideal concentration of contest locations should be. I would like to think demand would ultimately determine this.


As for regionalization - At first I thought it made sense, but the more i think about it I feel it just adds a level of unneeded bureacracy. There could be some small benefits but I don't see how it helps that much more. (Ex. if there are a member in 44 members in New Hampsire, if the nearest BOD member is in NY/NJ/CT as an example, how does that make any difference on the day to day or long term issues ?

I think it should ultimately go to who the most qualified candidates are, not a waterded down field based on zip code. Giving members more access to BOD meetings and also providing better forums for communication (like this BOD forum) will allow the members to get a better feel as to who has the best interests at heart regardless of home state.

I find the stats interesting as well but it seems that the whole purpose for releasing this info was to have the numbers crunched in case KCBS moves toward regional representatives.

Personally I don't see the need for it. Others have strong opinions for it. The way I see it is that KCBS is a national organization that promotes a regional style of BBQ that we all enjoy. Personally I could care less if I have someone from Ohio or Michigan or Indiana as my representative. All I care about is being able to vote for the most qualified candidate (in my opinion at least) on the ballet no more where he resides. I'm not sure what regional representation gets you because under the current system all members are considered equal. Under a regional system we would be divided up much like congress and our opinion would be worth less. That's why the founding fathers implemented the Senate so that they could override the decisions of the dominate states and give every state an equal voice. For now I'm all in favor of one man, one vote for KCBS. It's really kind of simple. If you want more representation in your state, recruit new members and/or run for office. This will help both the organization, your region, and the sport of competition BBQ.

If it were that simple
There are problems nationally that some folks wouldnt see
Example many on the current BoD did not know that the
Pacific North West was for the most part gone doing it own thing
in BBQ. Another, Ohio has far too few contests If a activist BoD member
were working that issue change would happen
Stay with what we have and reelect nice guys who "no report"
for three years Sorry thats not a good idea

ThomEmery said:

If it were that simple
There are problems nationally that some folks wouldnt see
Example many on the current BoD did not know that the
Pacific North West was for the most part gone doing it own thing
in BBQ. Another, Ohio has far too few contests If a activist BoD member
were working that issue change would happen
Stay with what we have and reelect nice guys who "no report"
for three years Sorry thats not a good idea

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Tom - Please explain how you believe a potential regional rep from Lexington, KY or Pittsburgh, PA (border states of OH) could have a direct positive influence on creation of contests in OH ? Also curious as to why you believe OH has too few contests (3) Seems to be proportionate to many of the other states.

I agree with you on the No Reports, but that can happen in the current state or regional... No guarantees either way.

Well maybe I am projecting a bit on this
When I started out in BBQ 3 and a half years ago
there where no contests within 100 miles of my home
Now there are 8 with 4 more as proposed
(not all KCBS)
Some of that is because I am nuts
and some is because I worked it.
My BoD time at CBBQA has helped in this
My thoughts were if a KCBS BoD member was working a issue
like more contests for certain area of the country he or she
could grow the thing Again maybe its projection on my part

Bottom line is you can make things happen if ya work em
And a group of "no reports" aint workin it

This isnt really the central issue here
The unrepresented areas of the country
need a couple of seats out of the 12
The strong areas will still dominate
as they should they have the numbers
We are just asking for a couple of seats
thats all