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Everyone also forgot to ask you if any of the charcoal/wood was wet or damp...

Do you mean wet/damp as in it could be moldy or decomposing? Or are you suggesting that pre-soaking chunks might also be a culprit to cause the bitterness? It's a newbie question, I'm just curious because almost all my life I was instructed to soak, soak, soak, and that does not seem to be the conventional wisdom.

And leftover wood? I am guilty of throwing half-burned chunks into a bucket of water and then reusing them next time. Really that bad?
 
Ok, good, more answers. I'm still leaning toward bad or wet lump that wasn't burning properly, as you put in KBB and the problem fixed itself. And just leaving the charcoal bag open in moist or muggy conditions can be enough to take on moisture. Use KBB for a while, I bet your drum runs fine.

When you start your drum, how do you do it? How many coals, how long does it take to get up to temp, and do you slowly raise it to a temp, or kinda fly past what you're after and fight it back down? The answers to this will say something about your combustion. I don't think bitter had anything to do with the charcoal. I think you probably put your food on too soon is all. When I start my drum, I'll fire up 15 coals or so. When they're ashy, I throw them on top and close it up. I know roughly where my settings should be, so I set them and leave them. Then I wait about an hour and a half. It takes about that long to get the drum up to temp and into the grove. Until it settles in, it isn't puffing thin blue, so I don't wanna cook with it. You'll see. I think you said you waited 10 minutes? That means that an hour or more of cook was in smoke filled with creosote. The first hour is pretty crucial in smoking, as your meat is taking on most of its smoke at that time.

One more thing... Looking at your picture a little closer, Your exhaust may not be enough. Open that third exhaust port up. If you cut 1" holes then your pipe is 3/4"? That give you less than 1 1/2" worth of exhaust by the time you look at the ID of the pipe. I would keep all 3 wide open the whole time you have it running. Too much exhaust is better than not enough.
 
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Use mostly charcoal and only a couple of chunks of wood. A UDS is all about airflow. More air= higher temps. Try cracking your lid for a bit if you are having trouble getting up to temp. On a drum, opening the lid allows in air and will stoke your fire.
 
One more thing... Looking at your picture a little closer, Your exhaust may not be enough. Open that third exhaust port up. If you cut 1" holes then your pipe is 3/4"? That give you less than 1 1/2" worth of exhaust by the time you look at the ID of the pipe. I would keep all 3 wide open the whole time you have it running. Too much exhaust is better than not enough.

I agree with the "not enough exhaust" theory.
 
Thanks again for the quick answers.

- The lump charcoal was an unopened bag at the hardware store. I brought it home and it went straight into the charcoal pan. I live in Utah and the air is very dry. I don't think it was a moisture problem with the lump. The oak never touched water but was stored on a shelf in my garage. It could have been bad lump.

I filled the charcoal basket about 3/4 full of lump charcoal. Then I sprinkled some cherry wood over the top. They were chip type pieces (1 - 2 inches long). They were a commercial brand for smoking. I then fill my chimney started with lump charcoal. Once it is ready - I usually wait until I can see a good amount of red coals in the starter but have never waited until all charcoal was completely covered in ash. I then dump the lit charcoal on top of the charcoal basket and then lower the basket into the drum.

* note: I have never waited an hour to add my meat. I have always added it sooner. I believe this may be the problem. Combined with the fact that the grill rack was tightly packed with chicken. This could have seriously reduced air flow causing low temps and since it was too early could have also contributed to the bitter taste.

** another note: I forgot to mention that I am not using a conventional charcoal basket. I am using the dome from my old brinkman smoker turned upside down with 1/2 inch holes drilled through out. I wonder if the holes maybe don't go low enough down the dome. Maybe I need to drill another row or two lower and add a rack inside to give some space between the charcoal and the bottom of the basket. There are no holes in the very bottom. Could this be the problem? I will see if I can get some pics of the basket.
 
I'd build a real basket so ash can fall thru not choking the fire and run Briquettes - KBB or Stubbs- and Wood Chunks not Chips.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I5poqrIboAE
Plenty of YouTube videos on making Charcoal baskets - you don't need to weld them - bailing wire and stainless steel nuts n bolts - some roll them around a gas cylinder.

Or you cAn order a basket from BigPoppas- most of your problems are from the non basket basket you got.



Soaking Wood is generally not accepted as helpfull- doesn't reAlly do much.
 
You probably want a real basket..

Also if you are putting enough coals in to get your drum up to temp in 10 minutes, you are adding way too much hot coal. You are putting a 400 degree fire in a confined space and giving it enough air for a fire half its size. The result of this, and probably a poor breathing fire due to the basket you're using, is that your fire is smoldering for a good long while. That's bad combustion, which will give your food a nasty flavor.. You want a fire that is small and burns efficiently. Start with 12-15 briquettes in your chimney.
 
Thanks guys. I really think the basket is the culprit or at least a contributor to both the low temps and bitter flavor. I am going to build a better charcoal basket this weekend and give it another try.
 
Yup on too much coals - I do about 15 lit - mines up to temp in 30-45 minutes.

Basket is restricting your airflow too much and ash will build up making it worse.
 
Do you mean wet/damp as in it could be moldy or decomposing? Or are you suggesting that pre-soaking chunks might also be a culprit to cause the bitterness? It's a newbie question, I'm just curious because almost all my life I was instructed to soak, soak, soak, and that does not seem to be the conventional wisdom.

And leftover wood? I am guilty of throwing half-burned chunks into a bucket of water and then reusing them next time. Really that bad?

Yes and Yes. I have had it happen to me with mulberry wood. Smelled like animals had gotten caught in the firebasket.

If your air control is dialed in, there is no need to soak your chunks. My UDS has gone over 17 hours on one firebasket load.

As to reusing the wood: It's a choice. It's easier for me to put fresh wood in each time (also because I will switch woods from time to time and don't want a mix).
 
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