I've been looking into doing this for several years, maybe its just time to do it, especially with all the guidance provided here!
 
KISS: Snake the probe in through the exhaust. Works for me.

Yeah, but with a Weber lid (or any lid for that matter) do you have issues when you open it? Even with a decent lead on the probe I want to avoid any unnecessary wear on the leads. Tis a good KISS idea though and probably works for long cooks of a single type/piece of meat like butts or brisket when there is minimal opening of the lid.

I suffer from short lead syndrom....

Pretty sure there are some lead enhancement products around. Probelatis, Tempzyte, 4xL (Ladies Love Long Leads). Check your email, I am sure you have been contacted already.

Seriously though, I do know Maverick makes an extended probe. Not sure about other manufacturers.
 
Guess I should have used a ZEP barrel with PVC intake instead of going all crazy with the stainless hardware eh?. :laugh: Is there an oversized "BDS" thread somewhere?

My most humble apologizes. :shocked: I didn't mean to put your build down. I was just kinda sayin the simple uds method really works very well! :becky:

No worries man.

Got 2 8 lb. shoulders on injected with apple juice and my rub, as well as 4 slabs of spare ribs. Wow the meat really knocked the sails out of this SOB. It peaked out at 205 deg. with intakes closed. Had to open them 1/2" to get 230, 3/4" for 240, and 1" for 250. Sailing along nicely.


 
sjm, just trying to help a brother here. Be very careful using the exhaust to control temps on a UDS. You can get a bitter nasty flavor when you choke the smoke down inside. Controlling the burn cleanly with the intakes might be a better option.
 
sjm, just trying to help a brother here. Be very careful using the exhaust to control temps on a UDS. You can get a bitter nasty flavor when you choke the smoke down inside. Controlling the burn cleanly with the intakes might be a better option.

Thx for the tip.
 
I just drape my temp probe wires over the side of the barrel and put the lid on. Never have had a problem, no worries about wires out the exh. holes and how to remove the lid.

Guys, keep it simple..........:thumb:

Paul B
SS UDS
 
Ok I just gotta pipe in here. Dang guys it's only cooking. You shouldn't have any problem if you built it correctly and you shouldn't have any problem with the probe leads if ya follow the directions here. Good luck on all your smokes. I have never had a problem but I followed the directions here.
 
I made the switch to lump today and am having some trouble with my temps. First off...lump is much hotter than the briqs! I also find that it heats much faster but also responds to decreases much quicker too.

My normal setup to keep 250 is 1 intake open (1 inch) and ball valve about 1/8 inch with full weber daisy wheel exhaust. That setup had me at 320 on lump early this morning at 50 outside!

After fighting for a while I think I have it figured out. Now I'm about 90% open on the hole intake and 50% on the exhaust wheel. It's amazing how much playing with the exhaust makes a difference with lump...never like that when I use briq's.

Anyone have any experiences like this or tips to working with this stuff?

I use lump all the time. Don't use the exhaust for temp control leave it wide open, only use the intake. I use magnets to cover my intakes. Depending on the weather sometimes I only have 1 hole open halfway to hold 250. Just make small adjustments till you get it settled in.
 
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The beauty of it is that the Weber lid fits perfectly. I'm breaking the $$ rule with this one but I'm okay with that.
 

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sjm, just trying to help a brother here. Be very careful using the exhaust to control temps on a UDS. You can get a bitter nasty flavor when you choke the smoke down inside. Controlling the burn cleanly with the intakes might be a better option.
'I agree!! I added a second exhaust daisy wheel on my weber dome lid. I keep both opened at all times and I still control my temps at whatever I want.:becky: IMHO the drum temp control is all about how hot was your fuel when you put it in the drum and air intake.
 
I found that the lids will fit a closed top drum better than a open top drum...still have to grind the top ring a little, but it fit snug.
 
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Thanks for the tips boys. I have never messed with the exhaust before my virgin experience with lump. I have to say that for my cooker, lump was not a good experience. I had way more intakes open than normal and temp was constantly dropping even though I kept kicking the can and had plenty of fuel. Maybe the uniformity of the briqs is a factor? There wasn't much of a noticeable taste difference either so I'm going to stick with what works for me.

As for my probe response through the exhaust. When I have to take the lid off I just disconnect the wire--no snag, no problems, no worries. Drill if you want...I originally planned to use some rubber grommets I picked up at HD until I perfected the lazy ass mod! Seems like my solution is in the spirit of the UDS.
 
I found that the lids will fit a closed top drum better than a open top drum...still have to grind the top ring a little, but it fit snug.

Weber lids fit the bottoms of open top drums good to.

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Thanks for the tips boys. I have never messed with the exhaust before my virgin experience with lump. I have to say that for my cooker, lump was not a good experience. I had way more intakes open than normal and temp was constantly dropping even though I kept kicking the can and had plenty of fuel. Maybe the uniformity of the briqs is a factor? There wasn't much of a noticeable taste difference either so I'm going to stick with what works for me.

I think you're right on the uniformity of briqs. :-D All I have used in my drum is Lazzari mesquite lump. Out of the bag some of those chunks are dam near logs! So I try to break them down as much as I can to briq size, then I try to get a good pack, not to many large air gaps. I've got a brisket cooking right now and after 2 hrs. I think the drum is finally stable at 250*. lump is kinda tricky, but I think I'm getting it down! :shocked:
I like Lazzari because it's 100% natural.
 
Well I got a Weber lid a couple of days ago. I had to bend the lip out and let me tell ya WEAR some glasses! All the paint was popping into my face as well as everywhere else. Good thing for my Elvis style safety goggles to save me!
 
Ok I just gotta pipe in here. Dang guys it's only cooking. You shouldn't have any problem if you built it correctly and you shouldn't have any problem with the probe leads if ya follow the directions here. Good luck on all your smokes. I have never had a problem but I followed the directions here.

Don't you know that forums like this exist solely for all of us to over-think things that could be simple? :confused: Where's the fun in making it simple? If things are complicated, it's easier to immerse yourself and eat up all of your spare (and not spare) time! :thumb: :doh:
 
Thanks for the tips boys. I have never messed with the exhaust before my virgin experience with lump. I have to say that for my cooker, lump was not a good experience. I had way more intakes open than normal and temp was constantly dropping even though I kept kicking the can and had plenty of fuel. Maybe the uniformity of the briqs is a factor? There wasn't much of a noticeable taste difference either so I'm going to stick with what works for me.

As for my probe response through the exhaust. When I have to take the lid off I just disconnect the wire--no snag, no problems, no worries. Drill if you want...I originally planned to use some rubber grommets I picked up at HD until I perfected the lazy ass mod! Seems like my solution is in the spirit of the UDS.

I've always had better luck with Kingsford Competition charcoal briquettes than with lump. I especially like it more when starting a full chimney of it for grilling... Lump packs too tightly and won't flow air through the chimney very well. It also smells just like lump when it burns, i.e. like burning wood instead of like Kingsford briquettes. I've gathered that something like Kingsford Comp, Wicked Good Charcoal (WGC), or the 100% natural Royal Oak foodservice stuff that can be bought through DoItBest Hardware are all viable alternatives to lump, but will never beat lump when it comes to low ash production because they all have binders in them that hold the briquettes together. That said, they don't make a ton of ash.

Here's a comparison between standard Kingsford, Kingsford Comp, and WGC:
http://www.nakedwhiz.com/productreviews/kingsfordcompetition/kingsfordcompetition.htm

-Rodney
 
'I agree!! I added a second exhaust daisy wheel on my weber dome lid. I keep both opened at all times and I still control my temps at whatever I want.:becky: IMHO the drum temp control is all about how hot was your fuel when you put it in the drum and air intake.


What are the advantages of adding a second daisy wheel on a UDS?
 
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