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What a bunch of blown up BS. You want privacy live in a self contained silo with no outside communications. I voted for Gene and proud of it. Met him at Que by the Sea. One damn nice guy.
What a bunch of blown up BS. You want privacy live in a self contained silo with no outside communications. I voted for Gene and proud of it. Met him at Que by the Sea. One damn nice guy.
OK, due to this thread I have a question. I have run 70 contest over the years and I believe short of the KCBS database I most likely have a rather large email list of teams and judges too. About 9000 of them. I built my database to let teams and judges know if there is a new contest in there area and tell them the apps are on my site to judge and cook the contest. Is is also wrong and or spam to email teams with this info?
Arlie
I used contacts from my database in my own computer, (this means I have received an e-mail from them first) and from an organizer that I rep most of their contests, almost everyone who was contacted I have met with or coresponded with through e-mail.... there will be a few I am unsure about
I even sent many to people not involved in BBQ as most of this was sent from my regular contact list in Outlook.
Maybe get a drink, grab a cigar, take a deep breath.
OK, due to this thread I have a question. I have run 70 contest over the years and I believe short of the KCBS database I most likely have a rather large email list of teams and judges too. About 9000 of them. I built my database to let teams and judges know if there is a new contest in there area and tell them the apps are on my site to judge and cook the contest. Is is also wrong and or spam to email teams with this info?
Arlie
OK guys, I'm not friends or anything with Gene but I'm going to defend him sending unsolicited emails. And nothing unethical happened, BJ. GEESH! The man collected emails and sent what's called a CAMPAIGN message out to a very targeted audience. If you don't want it, block him or just tell him politely to remove your name from his list. It's not spam until you tell him it is, at least not to him. In 2009, I sent out weekly emails to approximately 800 people I collected from various emails, etc. that I had saved over recent years. Occasionally, I'd get a message back from someone asking to be removed. I politely acknowledged their request and immediately removed them from the mailing lists. I created a dialogue with myself and anyone who asked questions in response. Very effective. And it almost worked. I went from being a "who the hell is that?" to someone recognized across the country and fell only 51 votes short. Just because you get an unsolicited email in your inbox doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Y'all are making it sound like a crime or an inconvenience.
OK guys, I'm not friends or anything with Gene but I'm going to defend him sending unsolicited emails. And nothing unethical happened, BJ. GEESH! The man collected emails and sent what's called a CAMPAIGN message out to a very targeted audience. If you don't want it, block him or just tell him politely to remove your name from his list. It's not spam until you tell him it is, at least not to him. In 2009, I sent out weekly emails to approximately 800 people I collected from various emails, etc. that I had saved over recent years. Occasionally, I'd get a message back from someone asking to be removed. I politely acknowledged their request and immediately removed them from the mailing lists. I created a dialogue with myself and anyone who asked questions in response. Very effective. And it almost worked. I went from being a "who the hell is that?" to someone recognized across the country and fell only 51 votes short. Just because you get an unsolicited email in your inbox doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Y'all are making it sound like a crime or an inconvenience.
Honestly, I think you could make a case for a prior relationship in that Gene is a director on a board that represents the membership of KCBS. If you are a KCBS member, he's representing you I imagine it would be difficult to say in a court of law that there was no relationship.
I will post this here one time, I didn't try to get an advantage over any other candidate, I used contacts from my database in my own computer, (this means I have received an e-mail from them first) and from an organizer that I rep most of their contests, almost everyone who was contacted I have met with or coresponded with through e-mail.... there will be a few I am unsure about, most of the people who have stated that I did something underhanded to, i have an e-mail or personal knowledge of corespondence with, or have met them, I didn't go out and buy e-mail lists or get them from KCBS or look all over the internet for, i sent 2600 e-mails to those who either new me or as I said before had an in common e-mail or meeting of or with.....I hope that this clears it all up to everyone's satisfaction... I even sent many to people not involved in BBQ as most of this was sent from my regular contact list in Outlook.
I do have to say, I have a lot of respect for the others candidates running who could have slammed me on this, they were very professional and fair
Sorry if it has offended anyone....
As a CIO of a college, I deal with spam issues frequently. We easily block 65% of our mail traffic as spam. But I am just curious - of those of you who were upset with receiving the email (I received it, too), how many would have been upset had that same message been delivered by snail mail?
I did not receive this eMail, but I dislike all forms of junk mail, especially compaign junk-mail. I'm even one of those jerks who takes every piece of junk mail he gets with a "receiver pays shipping" return envelope and I send it back to them as heavy and bulky as I can make it. Usually I just rip up and return to them what they sent me.
As much as I hate junk mail though, I hate spam even more. I've tried to rationalize it myself, and the best reason I've come up with is that at least when something is sent via snail-mail, the sender has to pay for it. Sending junk in eMail wastes my time and is free.
You asked....
dmp
as far as I know, I am in NC, you in CA.... to the best of my knowledge, I have NEVER contacted you to drive 4000 miles just to compete.... make this a written PUBLIC notice to remove my email address from your database, you also have gotten an email from me questioning this and as of this date, have NEVER even acknowledge it..... from last year, or this year..... so what good does it to ask to have it removed every year????
Just looked it up, it is Seaside heights NJ, I still rep that contest, it was myself and Murray Saltzman that repped one year that you were there and with Preston and myself the next.....looked it up on the results page of KCBS you were there 2 of the years that I was the rep.
Just as an FYI, one of the reasons that I sent out so many e-mails even to people that I think might already vote for me is to get more members out to vote and not just for myself, we have a process that is easy to use and is under utilized, I would like to see a larger turn out even if it hurts my overall success in the election.c
What a bunch of blown up BS. You want privacy live in a self contained silo with no outside communications. I voted for Gene and proud of it. Met him at Que by the Sea. One damn nice guy.
I agree. This is way blown up. He's a Brethren brother for pete's sake. It's all about bbq. What the hell. This is crap I just shake my head at. :crazy:
OK, due to this thread I have a question. I have run 70 contest over the years and I believe short of the KCBS database I most likely have a rather large email list of teams and judges too. About 9000 of them. I built my database to let teams and judges know if there is a new contest in there area and tell them the apps are on my site to judge and cook the contest. Is is also wrong and or spam to email teams with this info?
Arlie
It's was only about BBQ!!!!!!!! :doh: