Scored this drum, lid and band for $15. Actually my wife made the score from a guy that came in at her work. He said the liner had been removed. When I first looked at it I was thinking that it had the liner that is so much work to remove but the texture is rough and under the edges of the ribs aren't covered very well. So the thinking is that it has been blasted and then painted. We will find out if we ever get some rain so we can get out from under this burn band.