I give up. How can you not b there? with "Kerocera ceramics. They have helped alot but still not there." I've never been happier with my Kyocera knives. Did u get "Kerocera" from Big Lots, or are we on the same page? If so, what u miss!ing, please. Mine do everything but bend.
Masterbuilt, Webers and cast iron - Pittsburgh style! Know your butcher!