Just wanted to let you all know how it turned out. had a heck of a time with the temp, think I used to much charcoal cause it was just smoldering, couldn't seem to get enough air in it, finally took out the water pan and that got me up to 250, took out a chimmny full of charcoal and there she was. any how no pics but it turned out pretty good for my 1st, the bark? guess thats what you call it was way hard, I mean HARD, but after you got through it, oh my! Tender n juicy, could barely cut it, it just fell apart. Thanks again for the info and help. Mom loved it!