I wish I could patent the look when you tell people "its done when its done" They always think ur being rude.
Rude..? Almost had to fight 'em.....
As far as meat temp probes... (have one in my cookshack)... Man , if you stick one in your butt...LOL..as in boston butt , shoulder butt etc. and you think you got it properly positioned , centered etc.. It could be placed in a fat pocket then your screwed on temp. reading's..... I just use it as a guide , l check the meat after about 10 hrs (depending on what I am cooking /and at what temp. ).. I use a thermapen... But I used to use a Ice pick....So if the thermapen feels like using a Icepick ..we are good to go..
Med. Spicewine , Oklahoma Joe's Offset Smoker , Weber Kettle and a Cookshack O25 ...