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PatioDaddio 05-26-2008 12:39 PM

First Drum Butts
 
Well, I finally did my first competition practice long cook on my new drum. It was pretty easy to make the transition from my usual WSMs, but I still need to perfect my temperature control.

One was about 6lbs and the other 8lbs. I cooked them at an average temp of about 265*, but I had some spikes. I foiled them at 180*. The small one was done (195*) in 10 1/4 hours and the other (198*) at 11 hours.

All in all I was very happy with the results, as were those I fed.

John

More/bigger pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thedaws...gs/drumcooker/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2019/...2f4c40969d.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2206/...3086ba0dc1.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/...8d9a4cb746.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3089/...3a5453c426.jpg

bowhnter 05-26-2008 12:48 PM

Nice John!

Midnight Smoke 05-26-2008 12:50 PM

Looks good, are those Butt's tied?

OSD 05-26-2008 12:57 PM

Nice job!! Are those boneless butts??

PatioDaddio 05-26-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pork Smoker (Post 646368)
Looks good, are those Butt's tied?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OSD (Post 646379)
Nice job!! Are those boneless butts??

Yes, they are boneless butts from Costco. I like them because you can unfold them and season the inside, in leiu of injecting.

Below is an untied boneless butt from a practice cook in '06. As you can see, it's pretty deformed and ugly. Tying keeps them tight and looking like normal butts.

John

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/95/20...d3e5f4bb02.jpg

Norcoredneck 05-26-2008 03:34 PM

What kind of control problems did you have?

PatioDaddio 05-26-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 646473)
What kind of control problems did you have?

Well, I cranked her up (Minion method: 70% Kingsford / 30% RO lump), loaded the butts, and let her settle in at 230*. I had one intake open (3/4" ID) and the ball valve at about 50%. I crashed for a few hours and came out to a 306* grate temperature. The drippings had started some pretty gnarly flames. Of course, correcting temps on the way down is a royal pain, so it took a while.

I pulled the meat, closed all the intakes and left the lid off for a while. That wasn't working well, so I closed the lid vent and she settled down in about 30 minutes.

Lesson: Catch your temps on the way up.

I just need to figure out the intake situation for an unattended overnight cook (read: sleep), ala WSM.

John

Norcoredneck 05-26-2008 03:47 PM

I know this won't be a popular statement but put a valve on a nipple at bottom and forget the one coming up the side. Try that and see if it works better for you. Also leaving the lid off is the worst thing you can do on a drum.

PatioDaddio 05-26-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 646490)
I know this won't be a popular statement but put a valve on a nipple at bottom and forget the one coming up the side. Try that and see if it works better for you. Also leaving the lid off is the worst thing you can do on a drum.

I don't see how the location of the valve would make a difference. Air can travel downhill in a tube. :wink: :-D

John

Norcoredneck 05-26-2008 04:10 PM

air will take the path of least resistance. If the fire can draw easier through the leaks in lid or top vents then your valve adjustments mean nothing. If you had actual flames in the drum with lid on I would say it wasn't sealed.

Bbq Bubba 05-26-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck (Post 646490)
I know this won't be a popular statement but put a valve on a nipple at bottom and forget the one coming up the side. Try that and see if it works better for you. Also leaving the lid off is the worst thing you can do on a drum.

He's right, this is coming from experience!
We've all done the raised intake and almost ALL of us have taken it off!
It is not responsive to small adjustments for all the air the riser holds.
You will find with just the nipple, heat control is much easier, almost non existent once it's cruising. :biggrin:
Lid off WILL cause your drum to catch on fire, be careful with that!

swamprb 05-26-2008 04:27 PM

Nice drum pics John!

BBQ Enthusiast 05-26-2008 05:09 PM

mmm I just learned something here.

Bbq Bubba 05-26-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BBQ Enthusiast (Post 646530)
mmm I just learned something here.

Mission accomplished!! :biggrin:

deeque 05-26-2008 05:46 PM

ditto to what norcoredneck said. Smoke on Bro.:-D:cool:


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