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Hedgeley 07-05-2013 10:06 AM

Beef Ribs - what cut?
 
Ok. I've done the "brisket" (right - a 2 lb tough cut of meat with barely any fat cap) and I've done chicken with turned out really well. Roast beef was perfect. Before I tackle Pork ribs I'd like to try some beef ribs. My question is - which cut is best. I'm clueless on these things and the wife wanted to know whether to buy side or back. And what do they mean by short ribs? I'm dying to try these cause I love beef ribs in the restaurant. Smoke? I have some apple chunks left over from the chicken smoke, but I'm sensing something a bit different. Not a huge fan of mesquite or hickory. What about cherry?
You guys are the gods of bbq. please help me on the road to becoming a Jedi Master. I'm merely a padawan. Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.:drama:

LMAJ 07-05-2013 10:17 AM

I can usually only get short ribs or flanken cut ribs.
I don't know the difference between side or back ribs, but if I had to guess that would be like back and spare ribs in pork. I cook beef ribs like I cook brisket, low and slow and trim them pretty aggressively, getting rid of all the hard fat that will never render. Don't forget to remove the membrane on the back of the ribs - not tasty at all...
As far as wood - we like cherry with beef.

Don't shy away form pork ribs, toss some on the cooker over the beef ribs and let that porky goodness ooze on the beef...

Moose 07-05-2013 10:35 AM

I've had the best luck with beef back ribs, as they seem to have the most meat on them. and the size of the ribs on a rack range from small to pretty good sized. Here's what a small rack looks like:

http://i980.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/IMG_0349.jpg

I would also second all of LMAJ's suggestions about cooking etc.

Al Czervik 07-05-2013 10:53 AM

I've done both back ribs and short ribs and as of late have preferred the short ribs... They are more expensive than the back ribs but around here have a lot more meat on them. Here is link to some I did a while back for a throwdown.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=146669

It shows what they look like and how I prepared them. Hope it helps.

:mrgreen:

Hedgeley 07-05-2013 11:12 AM

What can I say but wow
 
That link looks fantastic. Only thing is - do you have access to Lea and Perrins Worcestshire sauce? Let me know of you don't. I'll send you some down sometime. Can't be beat. It's the original.
And thanks all. I'll let you know how it goes. My Temp probes quit on me, but judging by what I've seen, won't need them.
This is becoming addictive. I've been smoking for just over a month now, and have accumulated over 100lb of charcoal (Royal Oak and some Costco Maple) And used another 50. bought some apple chunk wood, and am going to get some cherry and alder next. Sorry, SC, but not a big fan of hickory until I learn how to control the smoke.:bow:

Al Czervik 07-05-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgeley (Post 2540036)
do you have access to Lea and Perrins Worcestshire sauce?

I have seen it and will make a point of getting some to give it a try... Thanks!

Hedgeley 07-05-2013 12:08 PM

Lea and Perrins
 
It's the best there is. The original - kinda like Tabasco original is the best. Guarded recipes
tabasco is great on eggs, Lea and Perrins on beef is a staple in our house

Marrs 07-06-2013 08:54 AM

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I love to do untrimmed short ribs.

LMAJ 07-06-2013 09:55 AM

Lea and Perrins
 
I didn't even know there was any other brand.... it's always been Lea and Perrins at our house.

Hedgeley 07-08-2013 08:59 AM

Short Rib Report
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2540012)
I've done both back ribs and short ribs and as of late have preferred the short ribs... They are more expensive than the back ribs but around here have a lot more meat on them. Here is link to some I did a while back for a throwdown.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=146669

It shows what they look like and how I prepared them. Hope it helps.

:mrgreen:

Wife bought me some short ribs - not as nice as the ones you guys showed, but decent enough. Made an attempt at the sauce since I didn't have all the ingredients. Smoked the ribs using cherry chunks and Maple Lump charcoal at 275 for 2 hours and rested for 1/2 hour. Perhaps I oversimplified, and I didn't braise them but they still came out pretty good. One thing I'm going to have to refine is how much smoke is needed. I think I oversmoked, cause a lot of the time the chunks were blowing white smoke, and I don't think that much is needed. I had 3 to 4 chunks in most of the time. One or two would have been sufficient. The other thing I'm wary of (and this is cause I'm used to grilling) is overcooking. I keep thinking that will toughen the meat. Gotta get past that. I guess that's why braising in this case would have helped.
Thanks for all the help. This site is an amazing resource, especially for someone only a couple months into this smoking addiction.
I think I'm going to do some caveman steaks next. I'm really intrigued by that process. Nice to have a smoker (Napoleon Apollo 3 in 1) that's that versatile.

Zin 07-08-2013 09:49 AM

Meaty beef spare ribs are the king of all ribs, its hard to find meaty spares so short ribs are the next best rib. Thick cut flanken ribs are also very delish

Marrs 07-08-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgeley (Post 2543396)
Perhaps I oversimplified, and I didn't braise them but they still came out pretty good.

No need to braise. They'll get super tender with enough time on the smoker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedgeley (Post 2543396)
I think I oversmoked, cause a lot of the time the chunks were blowing white smoke...

You are correct. You need a "thin blue line". If you do a search of the forums using the search form at the bottom of the page you'll find some pictures to help you see what a thin blue line looks like.

Welcome to the addiction (and the forums)! There are a lot of helpful people here so don't be afraid to ask questions.

Good luck,

luke duke 07-08-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Moose (Post 2539989)
I've had the best luck with beef back ribs, as they seem to have the most meat on them.

You must have gotten some poor short ribs.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/11/ure9yqag.jpg

luke duke 07-08-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zin (Post 2543481)
Meaty beef spare ribs are the king of all ribs, its hard to find meaty spares so short ribs are the next best rib. Thick cut flanken ribs are also very delish

What is a beef spare rib?

LMAJ 07-08-2013 01:13 PM

Duke - that is one huge short rib! The ones we get are in the three inch long size
http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m...J/IMG_1637.jpg

http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m...6E48BF9B72.jpg

Hedgeley - 2.5 hours really isn't long for beef ribs - mine usually go 5+ hours.


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