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rubizuk 02-10-2013 10:34 AM

Mini WSM charcoal Ring
 
I followed the posts on how to build the Mini WSM here on BBQ Brethren and love the smoker. It has turned out to be my go to unit for 80% of my cooks.

I have been thinking about the charcoal ring and I think that it limits the amount of coal that I can use, thus it limits the cook times and temperatures.

Anyone else use the Mini WSM without the ring modification? Any thoughts?

aawa 02-10-2013 10:38 AM

I haven't used a charcoal basket at all in my mini. I just load up the charcoal grate to the rim where the bowl sits w/ lump and wood chucks and leave a small hole in the middle. Then put about 1/4 of a chimney of lit coals into the middle and place the pot onto the bowl.

With Royal Oak I can get about 6-8hrs of cook time with a full load. 6 hours during the colder months of winter and 8ish hours when i was smoking stuff during the summer.

Bludawg 02-10-2013 11:12 AM

I don't have a ring in mine( built on a SJS) but I have thought about making one to improve the air flow. However It does limit the amount of fuel, which leads me to building one that has a bowl shape that would mimic the contour of the base only 1" smaller so there is air flow around the fire.while increasing the capacity over the standard design.

rubizuk 02-10-2013 03:31 PM

I use lump exclusively except I have just started to use it to be the coals going. It seems to me, there is still plenty of air flow. By the way, I am using the sjs also.

mbshop 02-10-2013 06:34 PM

i use one and think it actually slows down the burning of the coals while keeping the heat steady. this is using the sjg.

rubizuk 02-10-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mbshop (Post 2362658)
i use one and think it actually slows down the burning of the coals while keeping the heat steady. this is using the sjg.

From my experience, air flow controls the amount of heat. So adjusting the lower vents is what controls the temp, the more coals only gives the potential for higher heat. A good wind shield should stop any fluctuations.

javahog2002 02-10-2013 08:27 PM

I don't use a basket in my mini. It is a SJG based unit. I get great results on cook duration. It does need a jacket for cold weather cooks to get up to temp.

benniesdad 02-10-2013 09:12 PM

I don't use a charcoal basket in mine because I use a SJ Gold and I drilled holes in bottom of the tamale pot vs. cutting out the bottom. I think you are just limiting your charcoal capacity with a set up like mine. OTOH, if you have cut the bottom out of your pot, you can probably take advantage of the additional space and benefit greatly on long burns by using a charcoal basket.

rubizuk 02-10-2013 11:36 PM

Thanks, I guess I will just have to try it

swamprb 02-10-2013 11:58 PM

I always use charcoal rings in mine.

Here is the one in the Mini Cajun Bandit Smoker Joe

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_2790.jpg

This one is in the Little Miss Sunshine Mini Smoker Joe with BDS intake vent mod.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3510.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3508.jpg

Doin' that Reverse Sear thing!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3525.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3526.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3528.jpg

use at your own peril!

rubizuk 02-11-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 2363091)
I always use charcoal rings in mine.

Here is the one in the Mini Cajun Bandit Smoker Joe

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_2790.jpg

This one is in the Little Miss Sunshine Mini Smoker Joe with BDS intake vent mod.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3510.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3508.jpg

Doin' that Reverse Sear thing!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3525.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3526.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/IMG_3528.jpg

use at your own peril!

Q looks great. Looks like you are doing the reverse sear at the end of the cook.

As for the coal ring, how long can you Q with a ring at 275* is my concern as this seems to be one of my favorite temps, beside 325* - 350* for chicken?

swamprb 02-11-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubizuk (Post 2363415)
Q looks great. Looks like you are doing the reverse sear at the end of the cook.

As for the coal ring, how long can you Q with a ring at 275* is my concern as this seems to be one of my favorite temps, beside 325* - 350* for chicken?

That's the plan.

I can get 2 or 3 cooks out of a full ring of charcoal doing short cooks like chicken or Reverse searing meats like Tri-tip, Flat Iron, Teres Major or Flank steaks. They are go to weeknight dinner cookers-fast to start, compact for Smok-grilling (275*-325*)and it gets the job done

rubizuk 02-11-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamprb (Post 2363454)
That's the plan.

I can get 2 or 3 cooks out of a full ring of charcoal doing short cooks like chicken or Reverse searing meats like Tri-tip, Flat Iron, Teres Major or Flank steaks. They are go to weeknight dinner cookers-fast to start, compact for Smok-grilling (275*-325*)and it gets the job done

Thanks for the input. Since I built my mini wsm, 90% of my Q has been with it, the greatest all around bbq for the 2 of us. By nature, I still have to check out all possibilities and experiment with something that even works as great as this does.

Freddy j 02-11-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubizuk (Post 2363471)
By nature, I still have to check out all possibilities and experiment with something that even works as great as this does.

thats a great point; also what makes this hobby so great. :becky::becky::becky:

Fire_Mgmt 02-11-2013 11:19 PM

I've been able to get 14hrs using lump in my SJG with a charcoal ring @ 275*F. Mind you, weather was around 80* last summer with a light breeze. Burn length really depends on your outdoor conditions but I've found that, on average, my burn length increased once I started using the charcoal basket.


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