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Resesgrill 01-31-2013 06:52 PM

bbq temp controllers
 
The Stoker Wifi
Temperature Controller vs bbq guru which one is better and is there a difference between the two?:confused:

Red Valley BBQ 01-31-2013 06:59 PM

Not familiar with the Stoker, but recieved the Guru Wifi for christmas and couldn't be happier with it. Paired with The Pit Pal android app and I can't wait for competition season.

Freddy j 01-31-2013 07:02 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=stok...&client=safari

Lobsterbake 01-31-2013 07:03 PM

BBQ Guru makes great products and great people.

LA 433 01-31-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobsterbake (Post 2349613)
BBQ Guru makes great products and great people.

i am looking to buy the bbq guru digi Q but is the 4cmf fan good enough or is the 10 better

LA 433 01-31-2013 07:13 PM

sorry didnt mean to hijack u ........new at this and have a million questions

Freddy j 01-31-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA 433 (Post 2349635)
i am looking to buy the bbq guru digi Q but is the 4cmf fan good enough or is the 10 better

From my research, it depends on the size of the pit. Both mfrs have suggested fan size for the pit your using it on.

pwa 01-31-2013 08:11 PM

Both are great product and comes down to your needs. Need 1 or 2 pits with set number of probes nothing wrong with the the Gurus. If you need mutli pits and multi temp sensors then take a good look at the Stoker.

pwa

BobM 01-31-2013 08:37 PM

I looked at both the BBQ Guru CyberQ WiFi and the Rock's Bar-B-Que Stoker.

I bought myself a CyberQ WiFi for Christmas with the 10 cfm Pit Viper fan and WSM adapter.

The CyberQ WiFi is basically a WiFi version of a DigiQ DX2 with 3 food probes.

I've done a few cooks on it and it works great.
Here is a mini review I did.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...91#post2340391

Here is the adapter mod I did to my WSMs.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...15#post2314515

I chose the CyberQ WiFi ATC system, but by all accounts the Stoker also works well.

The CyberQ WiFi can only control one pit at a time, though it does support three food probes.
The Stoker can simultaneously control more than one pit.
If you need multi pit capability, the Stoker is for you.

The CyberQ WiFi has Ad-Hoc mode, which allows you to easily configure and access it.
The problem is not all Android devices support Ad-Hoc mode. My Samsung Galaxy SIII does not support Ad-Hoc mode.
Details.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...26#post2310326
The Stoker has an ethernet jack allowing you to wire it to an ethernet switch with a patch cord for easy configuration.

Both units can be manually configured from the front panel.

Both units have a backlit LCD display.

Both units support full wireless LAN and internet operation.

Both units have a built in web interface.

Both units have food and pit alarms.

The CyberQ WiFi has a plastic case with a built in antenna.
The Stoker has a metal case with an external antenna.

The CyberQ WiFi sends alert e-mails.
The Stoker sends alert tweets to your Twitter account.

The CyberQ WiFi fan has a manual damper.
The Stoker fan has an automatic close/open damper.

The CyberQ fan is easier to install and remove from it's fan adapter and comes with a kill plug.
The Stoker fan adapter is a better design, IMHO.

The CyberQ WiFi has automatic open pit detection.
The Stoker has a manual open pit timer.

The CyberQ WiFi has a ramp cooking mode.

The Stoker is harder to configure than the CyberQ WiFi. This is partly due to the fact it supports multi pit operation.

The Stoker has more aftermarket software support than the CyberQ Wifi. This is mainly due to the fact it's been around longer.

The Stoker comes with 1 - 4' pit probe and 1 - 4' food probe.
The CyberQ WiFi comes with 1 - 6' pit probe, 3 - 6' food probes and a mounting bracket.
Both come with an AC adapter.
Both are sold in systems with various pit adapters and fan sizes.

For a comparable system, the CyberQ WiFi is less expensive than the Stoker.

All the information I have on the Stoker, I got from reading the owners manual and from forum discussions and reviews.
I own and have used a CyberQ WiFi, so I am much more familiar with it.
If I've left out or erred on anything, Stoker owners please elucidate.

Good luck.

Bob

82's BBQ 01-31-2013 09:01 PM

I have a Cyber Q II that I might be willing to part with. I've only used it twice.

jrn 01-31-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobM (Post 2349750)
I looked at both the BBQ Guru CyberQ WiFi and the Rock's Bar-B-Que Stoker.

I bought myself a CyberQ WiFi for Christmas with the 10 cfm Pit Viper fan and WSM adapter.

The CyberQ WiFi is basically a WiFi version of a DigiQ DX2 with 3 food probes.

I've done a few cooks on it and it works great.
Here is a mini review I did.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...91#post2340391

Here is the adapter mod I did to my WSMs.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...15#post2314515

I chose the CyberQ WiFi ATC system, but by all accounts the Stoker also works well.

The CyberQ WiFi can only control one pit at a time, though it does support three food probes.
The Stoker can simultaneously control more than one pit.
If you need multi pit capability, the Stoker is for you.

The CyberQ WiFi has Ad-Hoc mode, which allows you to easily configure and access it.
The problem is not all Android devices support Ad-Hoc mode. My Samsung Galaxy SIII does not support Ad-Hoc mode.
Details.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...26#post2310326
The Stoker has an ethernet jack allowing you to wire it to an ethernet switch with a patch cord for easy configuration.

Both units can be manually configured from the front panel.

Both units have a backlit LCD display.

Both units support full wireless LAN and internet operation.

Both units have a built in web interface.

Both units have food and pit alarms.

The CyberQ WiFi has a plastic case with a built in antenna.
The Stoker has a metal case with an external antenna.

The CyberQ WiFi sends alert e-mails.
The Stoker sends alert tweets to your Twitter account.

The CyberQ WiFi fan has a manual damper.
The Stoker fan has an automatic close/open damper.

The CyberQ fan is easier to install and remove from it's fan adapter and comes with a kill plug.
The Stoker fan adapter is a better design, IMHO.

The CyberQ WiFi has automatic open pit detection.
The Stoker has a manual open pit timer.

The CyberQ WiFi has a ramp cooking mode.

The Stoker is harder to configure than the CyberQ WiFi. This is partly due to the fact it supports multi pit operation.

The Stoker has more aftermarket software support than the CyberQ Wifi. This is mainly due to the fact it's been around longer.

The Stoker comes with 1 - 4' pit probe and 1 - 4' food probe.
The CyberQ WiFi comes with 1 - 6' pit probe, 3 - 6' food probes and a mounting bracket.
Both come with an AC adapter.
Both are sold in systems with various pit adapters and fan sizes.

For a comparable system, the CyberQ WiFi is less expensive than the Stoker.

All the information I have on the Stoker, I got from reading the owners manual and from forum discussions and reviews.
I own and have used a CyberQ WiFi, so I am much more familiar with it.
If I've left out or erred on anything, Stoker owners please elucidate.

Good luck.

Bob


Bob, could you be more specific? :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

J/k

plowin-fire 01-31-2013 11:03 PM

I have a wifi stoker and couldn't image doing long burns without it now. Took a bit to get the wifi setup and the port forwarding going, buts its worth the work when it all operates. Using it right now to smoke a 19lbs ham and it's -7 degrees out at the moment.

jgdusc 02-01-2013 10:31 AM

I am getting used to the Stoker as well. Bob has obviously done his homework and I wish I had asked the same question a month ago. Line by line all it true. I went with the stoker because if its expandability. It has 6 ports and you can run pit, temp,or fans from them. It doesn't matter where you plug them in. It automatically recognizes the probe because of the built in circuitry on the probe itself.

I wish it had the open pit sensor feature. Having to go back to manually cut the fan off is a bit of a pain, but I am a newb and probably in out trying to get everything situated. Network configuration is doable but a little bit aggravating.

As Bob noted the Cyber is a bit cheaper if you add the two other temp probes to the stoker unit, but I was able to extend my probes to 6 ft with one pit, temp, fan shipping included out the door for 361 which is "cheaper" than Cyber q.

Overall quality is solid and everything feels well built. Good luck with the decision. There really isn't a "bad" decision.


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