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scm1226 10-19-2011 12:33 PM

WSM top for a UDS??
 
Strange I know But i have fallen into a top from a friends WSM (some warranty issue). Has anyone ever used the top for a UDS??? If so have any pictures?
Thanks,

JMSetzler 10-19-2011 01:04 PM

Lots of folks use them on drums. It takes some specific size drum or you will need to modify the top of the drum to make it fit, but it works well.

Wampus 10-19-2011 01:27 PM

Yep, I have one on mine. It didn't fit around the "rolled" top of my drum and since I also use this lid for my OTS at times, I didn't want to modify it. So instead, I just welded on some short tabs inside the drum at the top to prevent the lid from falling off. Basically, my lid sits directly on top of the rolled bead at the top of the drum.

You can see the tabs in this photo....the ones that run vertically.....hard to see. I wish I had better pic.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_4554.jpg


As you can see, the Weber lid sits on the top of the rolled edge.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_4571.jpg

scm1226 10-19-2011 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wampus (Post 1822837)
Yep, I have one on mine. It didn't fit around the "rolled" top of my drum and since I also use this lid for my OTS at times, I didn't want to modify it. So instead, I just welded on some short tabs inside the drum at the top to prevent the lid from falling off. Basically, my lid sits directly on top of the rolled bead at the top of the drum.

You can see the tabs in this photo....the ones that run vertically.....hard to see. I wish I had better pic.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_4554.jpg


As you can see, the Weber lid sits on the top of the rolled edge.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/IMG_4571.jpg

Is that a WSM or OTS top? Looks like a kettle top.

HeSmellsLikeSmoke 10-19-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scm1226 (Post 1822769)
Strange I know But i have fallen into a top from a friends WSM (some warranty issue). Has anyone ever used the top for a UDS??? If so have any pictures?
Thanks,

Just to make sure. You are talking about a 22.5" WSM top, aren't you?

scm1226 10-19-2011 02:54 PM

YEs a 22.5 inch WSM top. Is there anyway to fit it to a UDS?

HeSmellsLikeSmoke 10-19-2011 02:57 PM

I remember one build that used a WSM lid. Let me see if I can find who did it.

Wampus 10-19-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scm1226 (Post 1822879)
Is that a WSM or OTS top? Looks like a kettle top.


:doh:

:crazy:



Sorry. Yep....it's from my OTS. TOTALLY misread the OP. My fault.....
I read it as "Weber" top.


:tsk: Dumbarse......:tape:

Wampus 10-19-2011 03:26 PM

Here's a post put up by brother 4dueces. Is THIS a top or bottom?

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...3&postcount=34

You'll have to ask him how he attached it.
Forgive me....I don't own a WSM so I'm not sure if that's a bottom or top.


I really AM trying to help here......:laugh:

swamprb 10-20-2011 04:31 AM

The lid of a Kettle and a WSM are formed differently.

A kettle lid fits over the bowl, and a WSM fits into the center section and will not fit its own base. A kettle lid will fit the base of a WSM.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...IMG_1637_1.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/IMG_4355.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/IMG_4344.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/IMG_4196.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/IMG_4193.jpg

I have yet to find an open 55 gallon drum that will accept a kettle lid without the soon to be patented swamprb Kettle Flange mod or flaring the lip of the kettle lid to fit.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/100_1640.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/100_1639.jpg

Mine are removable to utilize the drum lid, rotisserie rings or the Weber lid.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/100_1638.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/100_1644.jpg

The majority of closed drums that I have built have been able to accept the Weber lids without any mods. Just be sure to cut the top off inside the lip edge of the barrel.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/100_2335.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/100_2246.jpg

The lids of a Smokey Joe will fit on 15 gallon drums.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/IMG_0384.jpg

And my 26.75" Weber Bar-B-Q-Kettle lid fits on my 85 gallon drum.

I also have an open 30 gallon drum that is too wide for the 18" Weber lids but the flange mod will take care of the fit issue. I'll probably make that a Winter project.

YMMV

So to answer the original question - IMO, No - the WSM lid will not fit or be a suitable lid for a Drum Smoker. (but you can send it to me and I'll trade you a kettle for it!)

swamprb 10-20-2011 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wampus (Post 1822930)
Here's a post put up by brother 4dueces. Is THIS a top or bottom?

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...3&postcount=34

You'll have to ask him how he attached it.
Forgive me....I don't own a WSM so I'm not sure if that's a bottom or top.


I really AM trying to help here......:laugh:


:boxing:
It is the bottom of an old Silver with the daisy wheel vents.
:doh:

scm1226 10-20-2011 05:17 AM

Thanks for the responses. I will however play around with it this summer, I will send you the pics if I come up with anything. My UDS currently has a otg lid, not a great fit though, we shall see.
Thanks,

smokeyw 10-20-2011 05:51 AM

My 22.5" Weber kettle lids fit my drums perfect, no mods or anything. I am told that if you get drums with a bolt on locking ring instead of a clamp on locking ring it will fit. These drums contained food grade grease and had the bolted locking ring.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ount201190.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...unt2011111.jpg

Rich Parker 10-20-2011 07:39 AM

I use Weber lids on all mine. The only modification i made was to bend out the lip on the lid and then tap it back in place with a rubber hammer.

swamprb 10-20-2011 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeyw (Post 1823481)
My 22.5" Weber kettle lids fit my drums perfect, no mods or anything. I am told that if you get drums with a bolt on locking ring instead of a clamp on locking ring it will fit. These drums contained food grade grease and had the bolted locking ring.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ount201190.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...unt2011111.jpg

Nice setup!

I have (and had) drums that had both the bolt on and clamp on styles of lid rings and none of them fit the kettle lids. Early on in my drum smoker journey I used lube barrels with plastic bladders to hold the grease and they had had the bolted rings.

But looking at yours the opening is nothing like the ones I've used or seen at the local drum and barrel recycler. Nice to know they are out there!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...r/IMG_3565.jpg

I still feel the drum lids cook best!


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