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rbinms33 05-23-2005 02:04 PM

KCBS Judging Class in Smyrna, TN
Thinking seriously about attending this class on 6/4. Has anybody else gone through one? The only competitions I've ever cooked at were MIM events and that was back in the early '90s. I've never been to a KCBS event but in my reading, it seems kinda like the same thing except MIM is just pork and KCBS includes chicken and brisket. And it looks like KCBS is just one turn in for blind judging instead of blind judging and 3 site judges like MIM. I'd really like to pull a team together and do some MIM events but it always ends the same way. I get a few people that are all pumped up about it until they realize there's more to it than just hanging out and drinking beer. So I think I'm going to try and do a KCBS event with just me and the wife. I was wanting to take this class to make sure I'm not missing anything. We have a competition here locally in Memphis on 6/10 and then some more around here in Ashland, MS and Pine Bluff, AR. Those last two are in September so I should be ready for those.

chad 05-23-2005 03:57 PM

The class is definately worthwhile. I'm FBA certified and if there ever comes a chance for KCBS I'll get it too.

Getting a working team is a problem -- it has nothing to do with the sanctioning body! Find one or two guys that will commit and go for it.

icemn62 05-23-2005 04:14 PM

I seem to be under the impression that there are quite a few Brothers here who have taken the class and certified to judge .

BrooklynQ 05-23-2005 04:17 PM

I'm KCBS certified, as is a lot of other folks here. It's a slightly different ball game then MIM, more meats, garnish and no entertaining of judges. One of the nice things about getting cert'd was meeting a bunch of other yankees that are serious about BBQ.

And Chad is right - getting the team together is the hardest part. Hang out at a couple of comps and see who you meet up with. I met Phil and Gred at one and wond up cooking with Phil and Dave in New Jersey.

rbinms33 05-23-2005 05:52 PM

That's two of the main reasons I want to go. To meet other people who like doing the same thing and to figure out the rules. Like the whole garnish thing, we didn't put any garnish in the trays in MIM. We did dress up the grill with pineapple, lettuce, apples and oranges to make it look good. I suppose I just want to learn the differences though.

Solidkick 05-23-2005 06:23 PM

I think I would think about adding another person or two to help share the load of the work. I think two people could do it, depending on what type of cooker you were using. Still, to guarantee a couple of hours of rest for the big hour and a half turn in push, or having someone fresh for presentations would be a huge asset to you.

I hope you are able to make it to the KCBS judging classes. I think maybe we'll try to hit one in the next year ourselves.

The_Kapn 05-23-2005 07:07 PM

You have a good plan started.
May I suggest that you go to the Judging class and then GO JUDGE.
The class is one thing--getting in there and tasting the variety of entries and learning from the other judges is where you really really learn what flavors, textures, and presentations score well.
From that, you can determine your cooking goals and then it is just a matter of doing it.
Simply going to the class is a start--but really judging is where you learn the bulk of the information you need.
At least, that has been my experience so far.

Dig around in the Comp section postings and you will see a lot from competetors and judges that will help point the way.

Have fun--once you are hooked--it is all over :oops:
Chad calls it "The Dark Side"--for a reason :lol:


rbinms33 05-24-2005 11:25 AM

Yeah, that was the plan. One of the things with this class is that you're invited back in two weeks to judge the Backyard Masters event at the TN Heritage BBQ Festival. There's another event here in Memphis though on June 11 that I was going to see if I could participate and get some experience. Or if nothing else, just go and watch. That's the plan for now. I'll keep you posted on how it goes.

rbinms33 06-20-2005 01:43 PM

I never did post a followup regarding this class. It was a lot of fun and very worthwhile. Learned a lot, ate a lot and met some really nice folks. Whole lots of people with different backgrounds. Some were competition cookers, some were wanting to get into the competition side of things, some were husband/wife teams looking for a hobby and some just wanted to eat. One thing that was pretty cool is I got a copy of the KCBS Bullsheet. This is a pretty good little publication. Lots of neat stuff in there.

I still believe that these are the competitions that I'd like to do. I didn't get to go to that competition here in Memphis last weekend but I am planning on doing the Backyard thing in the competition in Ashland, MS or Pine Bluff, AR or maybe both of them. Bad thing is that they are back to back weekends so that might be tight. But I figure entering the backyard event will help me get my feet wet.

If anyone ever has the opportunity to go to one of these classes, I would highly recommend it. Lots to learn, lots of good people to meet and best of all, a lot of good food to eat.

chad 06-20-2005 01:53 PM

When you start even thinking about doing back-to-back events you are hearing Darth Que in the background inviting you over to the "dark side" :D "Feel the force Richie!" :twisted:

Solidkick 06-20-2005 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by chad
When you start even thinking about doing back-to-back events you are hearing Darth Que in the background inviting you over to the "dark side" :D "Feel the force Richie!" :twisted:

Amen to what Decon Chad said, Amen!

Bill-Chicago 06-21-2005 08:04 AM

I just realized that nearly everyone at the Bash this weekend, will be a certified judge, right down to Phils Mother in Law.

Congrats Richie, I too enjoyed it and look forward to judging next month.

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