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Vince RnQ 09-17-2011 11:46 AM

How Unbelievably Embarrasing
 
KCBS BOD MEETING QUICK NOTES - Sept. 14, 2011

September 15, 2011


Board of Directors Meeting - September 14, 2011

MINUTES

President Candy Weaver called the meeting to order at 7:08 p.m. central time.

Because the official agenda for the meeting was not received by the members of the board in time to consider issues coming before the board, Paul Kirk made a motion to continue the meeting to Wednesday, September 21st at 7:00. Seconded by Randy Bigler, the motion passed. Unanimously. Paul Kirk then made a motion to adjourn at 7:12 p.m. Seconded by Randy Bigler, the vote was unanimous.



Really?

bbqchicken 09-17-2011 11:48 AM

I hate lazy people :mad2: they look for any excuse.

Matt_A 09-17-2011 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbqchicken (Post 1791222)
I hate lazy people :mad2: they look for any excuse.

Any excuse for what? You've never had anything go wrong in your life?? Or would you prefer the board made uniformed snap decisions that could affect how you compete? :crazy:

Rookie'48 09-18-2011 12:59 AM

So why wasn't the agenda sent out on time? Doesn't the BoD meet on a regular schedule? Seems to me that the agenda should have been ready.
When I was a union steward the grievance committee's agenda had a definite cut-off time for new items. If you turned in your grievance too late, you had to wait for the next hearing in two months. The agenda would then be typed up & distributed to the interested parties. The only exceptions to the cut-off were for resolving suspentions or terminations - anything else would have to wait.
We never had to postpone because the agenda wasn't taken care of in the proper manner.

riblette 09-18-2011 12:54 PM

I've sent an email to KCBS asking for an explanation. This seems absurd, but, unfortunately it's not inconsistent with the current BOD track record. I could almost understand it if these guys were the BOD for a tiny local group, but for an organization that represents 14,000 members and controls a huge budget....come on.

If I get a response I will post it here.

gmholler 09-18-2011 08:41 PM

Last time I checked, the entire KCBS BOD was all volunteers. Might it not be the case that someone's "real life" might've interfered? I know y'all are going to say they should have thought of that when they took the position, but come on, it would always be nice to know in advance that this or that event was going to occur, but you and I know that life isn't like that!

Of course, I can speculate that we're all being played for fools and this is all part of a plan to defraud the membership and it's being spun with the excuse of the agenda being late to confuse us. Call me naiive, but I don't think so. Now, if this were happening every month, yes, I'd worry and I'd agree that it's not right - but that's not the case, at least right now. Things happen.

Lynn H.

Arlin_MacRae 09-19-2011 07:55 AM

Meh. Stuff happens sometimes. And everyone deserves some slack sometimes too.

tmcmaster 09-19-2011 09:35 AM

No offense to anyone, but 'real life' takes priority over BBQ...

Vince RnQ 09-19-2011 12:00 PM

I call "Bullsheet"!

I've been a member of KCBS for going on 5 years and this is the first time that I can recall that an entire BoD meeting had to be rescheduled because the agenda wasn't put out on time. We're not talking about some local club meeting where decisions that impact a handful of people are made. This is a national organization and the BoD has a responsibility to people all across the nation.

When something as simple as the distribution of the meeting agenda brings the process to a screeching halt, there's a bit of a problem there that shouldn't be allowed to persist.

Sorry folks, the old "life sometimes gets in the way" excuse doesn't pass muster here.

gmholler 09-19-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VisionQuest220 (Post 1792951)
I call "Bullsheet"!

I've been a member of KCBS for going on 5 years and this is the first time that I can recall that an entire BoD meeting had to be rescheduled because the agenda wasn't put out on time. We're not talking about some local club meeting where decisions that impact a handful of people are made. This is a national organization and the BoD has a responsibility to people all across the nation.

When something as simple as the distribution of the meeting agenda brings the process to a screeching halt, there's a bit of a problem there that shouldn't be allowed to persist.

Sorry folks, the old "life sometimes gets in the way" excuse doesn't pass muster here.

I'm sorry, my friend, but try as I may I can't understand your point of view. The KCBS BOD is staffed by VOLUNTEERS (and I'm not speaking of the TN football team). I've been a member since 2005, and while it might've happened sometime earlier, like when email was a new "thing", this is also the first time for a meeting to be delayed like this in my memory - but that's just part of the nature of something volunteer. It's not like they're paid to be timely. And in the least, they came up with a plan to try to remedy this - what more would you have them do? At least they're acknowledging that they haven't had enough time to consider the issues on the agenda instead of just blindly voting on them.

Is there something MORE to this that you're seeing?

Lynn H.

Slamdunkpro 09-19-2011 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmholler (Post 1793015)
I'm sorry, my friend, but try as I may I can't understand your point of view. The KCBS BOD is staffed by VOLUNTEERS (and I'm not speaking of the TN football team).

Don't the office staff and executive director draw salaries?

chambersuac 09-19-2011 01:02 PM

I don't know who is responsible for getting the agenda out, but for some reason he/she didn't get it done. Could be a variety of reasons. Meeting postponed one week. Were they voting on taking someone off of life support or something life threatening????

As one who's profession is prone to be ridiculed for any and every real or perceived error, I am willing to "put the best construction on it" and "explain everything in the kindest way" and chalk it up to a simple mistake. If this starts happening regularly, then it will be a problem.

gmholler 09-19-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slamdunkpro (Post 1793024)
Don't the office staff and executive director draw salaries?

I didn't know they were on the BOD. Are they? If so, I stand corrected. As far as I know, the staff and executive director DO, but neither is responsible for getting out the agenda. As far as I know, the BOD puts out the agenda for the BOD meeting.

Lynn H.

Vince RnQ 09-19-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmholler (Post 1793015)
I'm sorry, my friend, but try as I may I can't understand your point of view. The KCBS BOD is staffed by VOLUNTEERS (and I'm not speaking of the TN football team). I've been a member since 2005, and while it might've happened sometime earlier, like when email was a new "thing", this is also the first time for a meeting to be delayed like this in my memory - but that's just part of the nature of something volunteer. It's not like they're paid to be timely. And in the least, they came up with a plan to try to remedy this - what more would you have them do? At least they're acknowledging that they haven't had enough time to consider the issues on the agenda instead of just blindly voting on them.

Is there something MORE to this that you're seeing?

Lynn H.

Lynn, the volunteer argument doesn't cut it with me either. No one forced any of these people to volunteer to run for the office, nor did anyone force any of them to become officers.

It's really very simple: if you volunteer, you are accepting a responsibility to perform, not to attempt to perform unless it becomes inconvenient.

Look, they have a month, an entire month, to put out the agenda. That not happening is simply inexcusable especially since they know that the meeting cannot take place unless it happens on time.

gmholler 09-19-2011 02:53 PM

Yes, it IS very simple; the agenda didn't get out. It makes no difference if it was deviously planned or a simple mistake; the end result is there was no agenda. No, it shouldn't have happened. Actions (and non-actions) have consequences - I think they realize that. The BOD came up with their solution - hold the meeting a week later. Apparently they feel/felt this is/would be more beneficial to the membership. What would have been your solution? Is there anything they can do that you feel they aren't doing?

Lynn H.


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