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joe bucker 05-18-2017 05:37 PM

I just got back from Lowe's today and looked at the Smokey Joe's Banders smoker from the measurements that I took and compared to my old Banders the parts look interchangeable.
Some of the bolt holes for assembly may be different, but the racks are the same. The model number for the new Banders is 16202020 if any one needs some parts from Char-Broil.

Boo Radlee 05-31-2017 09:58 PM

Could you send me a copy of Bandera 101 in rich text please? Some reason, unable to open the Word version.

thanks,

moblej@yahoo.com

mrbill 06-01-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo Radlee (Post 3804452)
Could you send me a copy of Bandera 101 in rich text please? Some reason, unable to open the Word version.

thanks,

moblej@yahoo.com

email sent. .rtf was too big to be attached, but i tried a couple diff formats and sent them to you.

CFGal 06-03-2017 09:59 PM

Bandera 101 doc
 
Could someone please email me the Bandera 101 doc? My new Bandera is on the way, delivery on 6-8!

Thank you,
cgallaway004@yahoo.com

mrbill 06-03-2017 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFGal (Post 3806492)
Could someone please email me the Bandera 101 doc? My new Bandera is on the way, delivery on 6-8!

Thank you,
cgallaway004@yahoo.com


done

bbeavers 06-05-2017 11:51 PM

101 doc was a great intro to outfitting your Bandera. I did a few cheap mods that was not on the list. In the fire box I took out the grill rack and clips that held up the grill rack. I repurposed the clips in the smoke box for retainers to keep the racks from falling out when loaded with meat when you pull them out. Place them in the middle of the rack clips on top of the rack then mark a spot to drill a hole to bolt to the smoke box. Use all four, two on each side stacked where you need them. Back to the fire box. I bought 6 fire bricks from Home Depot and started to place a layer on the bottom and three sides. Didn't have enough so on my way back to the Depot I found a masonry supply store and bought them at a fraction of the price. You will have to trim two of them to make a layer for the bottom. For the ones on the side I got a 4 bolts, washers, and nuts to hold them in place. To trim them, Soak them in water and cut them with circular saw using diamond concrete blade. You will have to modify the charcoal grate to make it fit back in. I cut a short link out and bolted them back together. You have to cut the ash pan also. I would suggest cutting the ash pan narrower than the charcoal rack to easily pull as out while smoking. Something I need to do.

One more that was mentioned in the document but I did it easy and cheap is the lid mod. There is a lot of dead space in the lid. I took out the direct flame ability for fire brick addition so I got two small pieces of flat steel (small gauge) and cut a narrow V about an inch from the outside corner on one at each corner. This makes "tabs" that slide over the inside lip of the lid. One sheet didn't fill the entire space so on the other sheet I only cut 2 V's and slid this one over the other to fill the gap. To keep it from sliding around I screwed a self tapping screw into the two sheets. Doesn't budge and easy to remove.

I hope this is helpful and you enjoy your Bandera. I can load mine up with charcoal and wood chunks and not have to touch it for about 3 hours.

Boo Radlee 06-06-2017 10:19 PM

Many thanks to Mr.Bill for the email with the Bandera doc. Lots of great info and tips. I plan on taking advantage of all the mods during the rebuild of my $50 find.

BBQchef33 06-06-2017 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbeavers (Post 3807888)
101 doc was a great intro to outfitting your Bandera. I did a few cheap mods that was not on the list. In the fire box I took out the grill rack and clips that held up the grill rack. I repurposed the clips in the smoke box for retainers to keep the racks from falling out when loaded with meat when you pull them out. Place them in the middle of the rack clips on top of the rack then mark a spot to drill a hole to bolt to the smoke box. Use all four, two on each side stacked where you need them. Back to the fire box. I bought 6 fire bricks from Home Depot and started to place a layer on the bottom and three sides. Didn't have enough so on my way back to the Depot I found a masonry supply store and bought them at a fraction of the price. You will have to trim two of them to make a layer for the bottom. For the ones on the side I got a 4 bolts, washers, and nuts to hold them in place. To trim them, Soak them in water and cut them with circular saw using diamond concrete blade. You will have to modify the charcoal grate to make it fit back in. I cut a short link out and bolted them back together. You have to cut the ash pan also. I would suggest cutting the ash pan narrower than the charcoal rack to easily pull as out while smoking. Something I need to do.

One more that was mentioned in the document but I did it easy and cheap is the lid mod. There is a lot of dead space in the lid. I took out the direct flame ability for fire brick addition so I got two small pieces of flat steel (small gauge) and cut a narrow V about an inch from the outside corner on one at each corner. This makes "tabs" that slide over the inside lip of the lid. One sheet didn't fill the entire space so on the other sheet I only cut 2 V's and slid this one over the other to fill the gap. To keep it from sliding around I screwed a self tapping screw into the two sheets. Doesn't budge and easy to remove.

I hope this is helpful and you enjoy your Bandera. I can load mine up with charcoal and wood chunks and not have to touch it for about 3 hours.

if you take some pics and write up a description for the steps, i can include them in the bandera101 doc. :thumb:

bbeavers 06-06-2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BBQchef33 (Post 3808560)
if you take some pics and write up a description for the steps, i can include them in the bandera101 doc. :thumb:

Yes sir. Will do

NMETL_Tony 08-17-2017 08:19 AM

Question: has anyone tried the minion method with the Firebox using T plates in them? How good does charcoal hold heat in the Bandera? Thanks.

Czarbecue 08-17-2017 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NMETL_Tony (Post 3854897)
Question: has anyone tried the minion method with the Firebox using T plates in them? How good does charcoal hold heat in the Bandera? Thanks.



Assuming all the necessary gaskets and seals are in place, it holds heat very well. You're just going to have to reload every 3-4 hours, depending on how hot you're going.

10miler 08-18-2017 10:21 AM

I was at Walmart yesterday and looked at the Bandera. It looks like the current model now has a firebox baffle. Has the firebox grate been upgraded too to address the airflow issues? It's hard to tell from the pics in the Bandera 101 document.

RT 08-18-2017 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10miler (Post 3855581)
I was at Walmart yesterday and looked at the Bandera. It looks like the current model now has a firebox baffle. Has the firebox grate been upgraded too to address the airflow issues? It's hard to tell from the pics in the Bandera 101 document.


It has about 2" under the coal grate.

10miler 08-18-2017 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 3855687)
It has about 2" under the coal grate.

Was the original right on the firebox floor? You're saying the new one is better, right?

RT 08-18-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 10miler (Post 3855695)
Was the original right on the firebox floor? You're saying the new one is better, right?

I don't know about the original mine is the new one. But 2" should be enough based on what I have seen in my Longhorn, the Bandera is new and haven't run it yet. Will know more this week-end.


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