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kennedyb 06-30-2013 04:08 PM

Hey guy's, I'm a newbe to the kamado type grills. In fact i have not even opened the one I bought yesterday from Costco UK as I thought I'd gather as much info before I start it up.
I do have a 57cm Performer and WSM which I'm using currently and I must admit the rsults thus far has been pretty satisfying and continuously improving.
Though I have been eyeing up the BGE for sometime but have been slightly put of by'the price. However when this baby crossed my radar when I walked through Costco I thought it to good a deal at £443 sterling to pass.
Hence I am here now to soak up from those who have been and done!

I hope to share some great experiences with you guys once I unwrap and fire up!

Thanks for all the valueble info in advance!

Cheers,

"LovemyQ"

Ridgers 06-30-2013 06:31 PM

Just finished smoking some ribs on my Vision Grill with the Kamado Joe heat deflector. The ribs were really good.

Did them 2-2-1 and they where super tender.

dmeggers 07-02-2013 01:39 PM

Hi everybody. What is there a difference between the KJ pizza stone and the KJ heat deflector? Do I need both?
Doing a butt for the fourth.
New at this, Thanks for the help.

Dave

Scottydont81 07-02-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmeggers (Post 2536590)
Hi everybody. What is there a difference between the KJ pizza stone and the KJ heat deflector? Do I need both?
Doing a butt for the fourth.
New at this, Thanks for the help.

Dave

From what I have been able to find out is the KJ pizza stone and te heat deflector are the same minus the embossing on them

ssv3 07-02-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmeggers (Post 2536590)
Hi everybody. What is there a difference between the KJ pizza stone and the KJ heat deflector? Do I need both?
Doing a butt for the fourth.
New at this, Thanks for the help.

Dave

I have the KJ pizza stone and deflector. They are both identical except the embossing as mentioned above. For a butt you don't need both but just one to "deflect" the heat. For Pizza I do use both to keep the crust from burning. There are also other ways of doing pizza with one stone by placing it on the grill grates or the top rack to prevent burning the crust if you jut have one of the stones. I just chose to pick both of them up.

chuckl 07-10-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by drjiveturkey (Post 2508300)
I use a BGE plate setter (that's all I could find locally). The gap is wide enough to slide small chunks through, or use a rake to move a chunk that's already in the firebox over into the fire. If I have to remove the rack first I just set it on a pot to catch the drippings then lift up the plate setter.

How well does the BGE plate setter fit inside the Classic? Does it match up in diameter ok? Can you post a picture?

Chuck

george58 07-15-2013 01:56 PM

Hi, I just picked up my Vision grill and need to know which Heat deflector for the Kamado joe you're talking about. I see Two of themthe one for the regular Joe which is the same size as the Vision grill and the Big Joe which is 15". It looks like you're using the one for the Big Joe. Can you please confirm is for me as I don't want to order the wrong one.

Thanks in advance,
George

bigbadwu 07-16-2013 12:16 AM

awesome thread! just purchased the vision from costco. any recommendations on cooking pork butts and briskets in a kamado? Thanks.

markdemich 07-20-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunk Monkey (Post 2483194)
I just ordered this "Kiln Shelf" from an online pottery store.

https://www.axner.com/cordierite-shelf-15roundx58.aspx

It is 15" and 5/8 thick. It is rated for cone 6 kilns (up to 2165 degrees, had to look that up)

I will let you know how it goes. Cost $17.95 plus shipping. I also got the half shelf since it only cost $10.95.

That's a great idea about the shelve. How did it work our? Could you have gone with the 16" version?

rossn 08-06-2013 08:54 AM

Great thread!

I recently purchased a Vision Grill Classic B from CostCo. I would like to do both some smoking and pizza, and am trying to figure out a decent deflector plate setup.

I've read this thread about folks using the Kamado Joe deflector plate, and about the optional notching of the fire bowl that voids the warranty. I've also seen the ceramicgrillstore.com options.

Based on the comments here (http://www.nakedwhiz.com/productrevi...kjclassic3.htm) it sounds like a smaller gap at the edge (15" stone versus 13" stone as a deflector) is preferable.
I was thinking of using:
- Deflector setup: ceramicgrillstore.com 2012 Vision Spider + 15" Kamado Joe pizza stone (I understand this is the same stone as the deflector, but with some extra embossing)
- Another Pizza stone 16-18" on the top grate that comes with the vision.

How well would this work? Would a 14" cast iron pan work better? If using a larger stone on-top than the deflector, will have a ring-shaped hot-spot at the perimeter?

I didn't see other folks talking about just setting the top/pizza stone on one of the upper grates, and am not sure why you would the jig that comes with the KJ deflector plate. if someone can enlighten me about this, that would be great.

Lastly, when cooking pizza, is there an ideal distance between the deflector plate and the pizza stone? I've heard you want the pizza as high as possible in the dome, and notice most of the deflector plates drop down.

Thanks in advance for any insight!

Tom53 08-06-2013 10:35 AM

Grillgrates
 
One other accessory I found that "Works" is the Grillgrate.
http://www.grillgrate.com/

They make them for the Lrge Green Egg and it works perfectly on the Vision. Do a great job with lump charcoal on steaks. The crosshatch grill pattern on the meat impresses everyone. Might also work as deflector. I am going to experiment and let you know.:mod:

fredcook 08-22-2013 07:30 AM

I was able to purchase a Vision grill from Costco last week that was marked "Last One". I had looked at them every week since they put them out in the spring, but had not purchased one. This one was already on a cart and was marked down to $499.00. I looked it up on Costco.com and saw someone had bought one from a Costco in Chicago a few days earlier on clearance for $400.00. I mentioned that to the general manager and he marked it down to $399.00.

After seeing this thread I bought the Kamado Joe heat deflector, pizza stone, and chicken stand from a local Pike's Nursery.

Now that I have it, I have to learn how to cook with charcoal. Is there a place on this forum that shows step by step the different ways to cook on this type of grill?

Thanks for any advice you can provide to a BBQ lover and soon to be BBQ cook.

Larry D 08-22-2013 11:34 AM

New Vision Grill
 
I picked up a Vison Gill at Cosco in N. Miami Last week for $399. So far i cooked in it twice and had great luck. The firt time i cooked w/o a deflector and had great results. Low and Slow. The next time I made a deflector out of a pizza stone I had around. The stone did a good job. I used the fire grate from my webber to hold it and put the grates on top of the stone. I had the stone too close to the lower grate so i got some charring i wan't expecting, but the meat came out great. Added some water Soaked Apple wood chunks to the Lup Charcoal.

ssv3 08-22-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredcook (Post 2597531)
I was able to purchase a Vision grill from Costco last week that was marked "Last One". I had looked at them every week since they put them out in the spring, but had not purchased one. This one was already on a cart and was marked down to $499.00. I looked it up on Costco.com and saw someone had bought one from a Costco in Chicago a few days earlier on clearance for $400.00. I mentioned that to the general manager and he marked it down to $399.00.

After seeing this thread I bought the Kamado Joe heat deflector, pizza stone, and chicken stand from a local Pike's Nursery.

Now that I have it, I have to learn how to cook with charcoal. Is there a place on this forum that shows step by step the different ways to cook on this type of grill?

Thanks for any advice you can provide to a BBQ lover and soon to be BBQ cook.

Congrats on your purchase and welcome. You'll love the Vision kamado. The following site is for kamado cooking http://www.kamadoguru.com/. (not sure if I can post it but...)

It's got a wealth of info on kamados and there is specifically a section for Vision kamados. It's a learning curve but you'll get the hang of it quick and you'll never want cook on anything else. Seems like you're geared up and ready as well with the accessories.

jaktv 08-23-2013 12:50 PM

Question for those who made the Kamado Joe deflector mod on the Vision Kamado. Will you be able to use the double rack with this mod? I am wondering if there is enough clearance to use the top rack...


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