PDA

View Full Version : 1st brisket is in the smoker!


Bigmista
11-29-2004, 09:51 AM
OK,

I am working on my first brisket. Wish me luck! I put it in the smoker at about 6:30 this morning. Here are pics before it went in...

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 11:09 AM
Help!

My flat is at 135° and my point is at 148° and it's only been on for 2.5 hours. Is it cooking too fast or will it slow down once it hits a plateau?

BBQchef33
11-29-2004, 11:25 AM
You mista..thats not a brisket.







Kiddin.. Relax.. what temp you cooking at? No higher than 250 I hope.. I like mine around 230-235. Temps are a little high for the 3 hour mark, Did you put the meat in cold or was it room temp? Just relax... being your cookin next too the heat, maybe you should flip front to back occassionally. maybe even foil shield whats next to the fire if your real close. It will will lock in and get stuck for 3-4 hours anywhere between 155 and 175. Once it breaks that it will climb 1-2 degrees every 15-20 minutes. May even drop a degree or 2 here and there. Stay no higher than 235, spray anytime you peek, have a beer and relax. Let the smoke do the work, you just make sure your in the range.

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 11:38 AM
Thanks Phil! I'll keep you posted!

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 12:01 PM
OK I was in here chit-chatting and my temp got away from me. 135° in the middle. 171-185° at the ends. Probably ruined. Put a a foil heat shield and closed the vent completely. Only the chimney is open now along with whatever draft gets it. Hope I can save it...

cookswithfire
11-29-2004, 12:37 PM
Relax..you are on track ...Burnt ends are highly sought after ....Jerky type stuff
a true Delicacy...Seriously I dont think you should worry I would go with the middle temperature and not worry so much about the ends wrap them if your afraid they will be to crispy.

BBQchef33
11-29-2004, 12:56 PM
yup.. just wrap the ends like a drumstick. and if you havend already, make a foil damper between the meat and the fire. Drop it down tween the grates so its higher than the meat on top and leave a couple inches on the bottom for the heat to pass thru. it will decrese the direct heat from the fire.

tommykendall
11-29-2004, 01:22 PM
Neil -

I'll have you over next time I do one, but it's really about your cooker. Your pit temps as others have suggested, seem too high based on the characteristics you're describing. I wrap about 2 inches of the flat after about 3 hours, assuming cook temperatures in the 220-240 range. Move the meat like Phil says, foil what you have to, quick baffle/heat shield mod, spray the meat occassionally, and smaller fire. You do not need a big fire. Also - I don't remeber if you can add fuel through the side of your cooker or if you come in through the top.

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 01:39 PM
I come in thru the top to add fuel. Temps are starting to even out. I think I had issues because I had too much fuel. Using mesquite lump. Tried to do minion method. I think the lump catches too fast and burns too hot for that. Foil damper is helping though.

Temp in the middle is 154. Ends are back down to 165.

I'll post pics after I fix some breakfast. Just got back from the gym and my stomach is growling.

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 03:12 PM
OK here is the latest pic after 6 hours...

willkat98
11-29-2004, 03:18 PM
Thats a pretty smart probe.

How does it know its beef?

tommykendall
11-29-2004, 03:40 PM
Think it's supposed to say BEER. Digital read problem.

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 03:59 PM
Thats a pretty smart probe.

How does it know its beef?

It measures the protien content of the collagen and compares it with an internal meat database.

Samichlaus
11-29-2004, 04:35 PM
lol@TK

BigBelly
11-29-2004, 05:14 PM
LOL - he has the Inspector Gadget thermo!

Hey Mista, looks like you are right on track and doing a great job. We all have our way of doing things so the advice you will get will range. I tend to cook my briskets reeaaalll slow. I try to keep the temps between 210-230. I also am a foiler--gotta love "Texas Crutch". Burnt ends are highly sought after coming in second after a nice bark. However, maybe I get all senior citizen on my brisket and prefer it to be NOT crisp n such, so I foil at 140 degrees internal temp.

Hey, that brisket is looking good and surely it will taste GREAT!!!

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 05:33 PM
OK, I foiled it at 165 (got tired) and now it is in the oven at 225°. Gonna leave it there til probe beeps at 195°. Then I will towel it and put it in the cooler for an hour or so. Sound about right?

tommykendall
11-29-2004, 06:58 PM
OK, I foiled it at 165 (got tired) and now it is in the oven at 225°. Gonna leave it there til probe beeps at 195°.


I meant to tell you earlier to plan on a real long day. You're ok with the oven mod. Cooler it if you wish. If you cannot wait that long just let it rest in your oven for awhile - no peeking.

BBQchef33
11-29-2004, 08:06 PM
i wouldnt go to 195. turn the heat down at 190 and let it rest wrapped and coolered. But the true test isnt the temperature, but a fork or your probe. The probe should slide into the flat with no resistance and if you stick it in the nose or point it should feel like its going into warm butter. there is also the fork test. You should be able to easily twist a fork stuck into the top of the flat. Some briskets, such as kobes and awagu are done at 180.. angus are done at 190.. and some need to go to 195-200. Its done when its done and ya tell by checking for tenderness.

Samichlaus
11-29-2004, 09:59 PM
I wonder if Neil ate yet.

Bigmista
11-29-2004, 10:42 PM
Yes Neil ate yet! Had brisket and fried cabbage! Yum!

Brisket was tender and juicy. Wasn't chewy at all! I broke my brisket cherry and I couldn't have done done it without the help of the brethren!

Thank you all!

Here are the fruits of your labor...

http://www.bigmista.com/images/1stBrisket_all_done1.jpg

http://www.bigmista.com/images/1stBrisket_all_done2.jpg

Samichlaus
11-29-2004, 11:32 PM
That looks great!

Please tell me about your fried cabbage.

BBQchef33
11-30-2004, 02:16 AM
that looks good.. specially since my brisket from this weekend is all gone.


Guess we needs to tell ya how to slice thru nose and point huh? 2 more seperate grains in those sections that ya need to rotate away from the flat to slice. I f you seperated the flat,(looks like ya did) its easy to go 90 degreees off it to slice across the grain on the nose,

but if ya didnt, ya have to start angling in as you get closer to the back of the flat so you can cut across the grain on the nose and point and still be against the grain on th flat.

Neil
11-30-2004, 03:33 AM
Looking good Neil. Congratulations on getting a tender brisket first time out. I still haven't hit the desired tenderness on brisket and I've smoked a bunch of them this year. Slow learner mod.

BigBelly
11-30-2004, 06:57 AM
Grats bro, your first brisket is looking like a keeper.

As with Samichlaus asked, I also would like to hear about this fried cabbage. Sounds great!

spicewine
11-30-2004, 07:50 AM
Nice Smoke Ring Bro! Very pretty. Thankx for making me hungry.

BBQchef33
11-30-2004, 09:02 AM
Thanks Mista.....

I went to bed with that picture in my head last night and woke up this morning with a "requirment" for brisket. Problem is.. I aint got none. :) So pulled one out of the freezer to do tomorrow. (I always keep one around for a rainy day). :)

kcquer
11-30-2004, 09:25 AM
Glad I'm not the only one who had developed a serious brisket Jones over the last couple of days! Fark typin' about brisket, its time to cook some beef!

tommykendall
11-30-2004, 09:56 AM
Glad I'm not the only one who had developed a serious brisket Jones over the last couple of days! Fark typin' about brisket, its time to cook some beef!


You know it - mine from the weekend is gone and I mentioned to the OL last night that maybe I'll do another one this weekend. It didn't go over too well. Next time I won't tell her.

spicewine
11-30-2004, 10:14 AM
Isn't there a new Brisket Jones Movie out this month? I saw the Brisket Jones Diary. :lol:

BBQchef33
11-30-2004, 10:18 AM
Mines a brisket johnson. :)

and it is definately gettin bigger ast the day goes by. Got it all setup for thursday, the day of brisket. Got one 14lb packer out of the freezer and have to do one for the inlaws so will go piuck on e up forom restaurant depot today.. . so that makes 3. :) as in, i will also make an extra flat to eat thursday while the packers are cookin.


hey Mista.. see what ya started. !

BrooklynQ
11-30-2004, 10:32 AM
Man, I am jealous. I'll be playing Santa all weekend so no brisket for me.

Bigmista
11-30-2004, 12:00 PM
That looks great!

Please tell me about your fried cabbage.

Here ya go!

FRIED CABBAGE

Ingredents

1 head of cabbage, shredded
1 onion, chopped
1 bell pepper chopped
1 TBSP Sugar
2 TBSP Oil (Canola is fine)
2 TBSP Garlic Powder or 4 cloves of fresh Garlic
1 tsp cayenne
Salt & Pepper to taste.

Instructions

In a hot Dutch Oven add oil.
Add the veggies and stir till they are all coated and sizzling.
Add all of the seasonings and mix well.
Cover, turn down the heat and simmer for 20 minutes.
You should have to stir too much atter it's covered because the cabbage will give off a lot of good liquid.
When all of the veggies are tender, EAT!

Bigmista
11-30-2004, 12:02 PM
hey Mista.. see what ya started. !

Hey don't blame me! You guys got me started!! I wasn't even that crazy about brisket. Guess I never had a good one before...

brdbbq
11-30-2004, 12:02 PM
When all of the veggies are tender, EAT!


I would rather bury it.

cookswithfire
11-30-2004, 12:16 PM
I would rather bury it.

kimchi mod :wink:

brdbbq
11-30-2004, 12:20 PM
Nice Avatar

Samichlaus
11-30-2004, 11:18 PM
Thanks Neil!

Fried Cabbage tomorrow night. Probably pick up some sausages to fry up too, (seperately). Or maybe a pot of pintos with a couple ham hocks.

jminion
11-30-2004, 11:25 PM
I remember the fist time I fried cabbge for my wife, she thought I was crazy. She has been making ever since. Good stuff.

Samichlaus
11-30-2004, 11:35 PM
Pintos & Fried Cabbage, should I be concerned about a potential assplosion?

kcquer
12-01-2004, 05:36 AM
Sami, Where'd ya get the bitchin' Charolais avatar, that rocks!

Bigmista
12-01-2004, 06:47 PM
I remember the fist time I fried cabbge for my wife, she thought I was crazy. She has been making ever since. Good stuff.

Validation from a master. Gotta love that!

jminion
12-01-2004, 07:01 PM
If your doing a lot of grilling ( for a large group on a big grill) pig tails work pretty well.
You can't really seal in juice or poak a whole in a piece of meat and drain the juices out.
Keeping a piece moist is the result of not over cooking.
All that said, I use a good pair of long tongs, works just as well.