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LT72884
01-06-2011, 01:50 PM
Ok totally random Q question. When a judge has to judge so much food, who does he/she cleanse the pallet and mouth of the previous food so that other flavors from previous foods dont blend with the next?

thanks

42BBQ
01-06-2011, 01:51 PM
Beer would be good...I'm no judge so I don't know...

Buster Dog BBQ
01-06-2011, 02:06 PM
They have bottled water and saltine crackers at the judges table. Don't believe they are allowed anything else. Judging a couple times and it works.

LT72884
01-06-2011, 02:08 PM
interesting. i have always wondered how it worked. i thought it would have been bread or something close to that nature.

ssbbqguy
01-06-2011, 02:11 PM
Water and saltines only. (for KCBS) other places they had everyhing including beer. I judge mostly KCBS for the fairness in judging. Also most do not allow hand wipes for that can taint the tastes.Steve.

msavard
01-06-2011, 02:15 PM
In MBN use saltines and bottled water as well.

You are not allowed to be drinking alcohol or smoking beforehand either. I don't think they're going to boot you if you are at a tent for a beer or two before judging but if you show up at the judging tent with a beer in hand or impaired they will likely not let you judge. Smoking Cigarettes also jacks up your taste buds and is looked down on.

I personally don't even like to use the saltines because of the sodium content.

LT72884
01-06-2011, 03:03 PM
what about tortillas? they are low sodium


thanks for the info guys,. the reason i ask, i have to write a review for someone who lives in southern utah who is trying to sell his rubs. i have to judge them and i need to know some "know how" so i can review accurately and honestly

ModelMaker
01-06-2011, 03:47 PM
I sometimes grab some parsley out of the box to chase away some of the foul meat you'all cook up....
Ed

bignburlyman
01-06-2011, 04:44 PM
Our contest's in Great Bend have started using un-salted saltine (is that an oxymoron?) crackers. Talk about a bland pallette cleanser, lol. I always take a bite of cracker, and swish a mouthfull of water between each sample. I have had a few chicken turn-ins that were so spicy hot that even cracker and water did not cleanse my mouth.

Interesting idea about the tortilla, might be something to look into.

bbqbull
01-06-2011, 05:01 PM
Do you think that a drink of milk would neutralize the spicy chicken in stead of water?

wayne76
01-06-2011, 05:01 PM
Our contest's in Great Bend have started using un-salted saltine (is that an oxymoron?) crackers. Talk about a bland pallette cleanser, lol. I always take a bite of cracker, and swish a mouthfull of water between each sample. I have had a few chicken turn-ins that were so spicy hot that even cracker and water did not cleanse my mouth.

Interesting idea about the tortilla, might be something to look into.


One of the comps last year had those little fish crackers. Don't know why. Guess it was something they forgot about and fish crackers were all they could find at the last minute. Think that it might have been also the place that ran out of paper towel and had to finish with tt. http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/images/icons/icon8.gif
Wayne

bignburlyman
01-06-2011, 05:04 PM
Do you think that a drink of milk would neutralize the spicy chicken in stead of water?

It may neutralize the spice, but I think the milk would coat the mouth and need to be cleansed itself. I have even commented to the other judges when a sample that spicy that it is not fair to the samples that have to be tasted after it. Luckily it has only happened a couple of times in 25 or so contest's I've judged.

chambersuac
01-06-2011, 05:17 PM
Interesting question. I've never thought about it before. Thanks.

LT72884
01-06-2011, 06:15 PM
yeah tortillas are pretty awesome. A friend of mine told me that thats why you see flour tortillas being eat with spicy food. it helps calm the heat and cleanse the mouth.

thanks guys

LT72884
01-06-2011, 06:15 PM
yeah you need a base to kick out that dang acid from the spicy!

Buster Dog BBQ
01-06-2011, 06:32 PM
There are some non scented hand wipes the Iowa BBQ Society has talked about using to clean your hands of anything in between. Cost is a little more.

bignburlyman
01-07-2011, 08:46 AM
There are some non scented hand wipes the Iowa BBQ Society has talked about using to clean your hands of anything in between. Cost is a little more.


I have seen some judges bring in wet cloth hand towels in a baggie to use to wipe their hands. The sloppiest category for me is chicken, there is a LOT of sauce used on most of the entries.

I may be hijacking the thread but another pet peeve with sauce on the fingers I have is that when I have table captained I ask the judges not to lick the sauce off their fingers after removing a sample from the box, then reach into the next box. I ask them to wipe the sauce off with a napkin.

rweller
01-07-2011, 09:54 AM
I sometimes grab some parsley out of the box to chase away some of the foul meat you'all cook up....
Ed

If its real spicy parsley does a great job. But most of the time Crackers and water is it.

olewarthog
01-07-2011, 10:11 AM
For our contest, we keep unsalted soda crackers & bottled water on the tables. We use the small bottles of water so there is not as much waste. I also set up a judge's lounge in a separate room with a tray of fruit & veggies. This also helps with the palate cleansing.

carlyle
01-07-2011, 11:56 AM
I use parsley from the turn in boxes. Take some when box is passed around for us to
take our portion to judge out of the box .

It routinely works great. A small sprig will take my mouth back to "neutral" so there is no carryover from one judging sample to the other.

I use some water. That helps some but not as much as parsley. Crackers will fill you up. I avoid them.

At our contest I encourage the use of parsley as a palate cleanser to our judges.

So those of you who put turn in boxes together, know that some of that parsley
helps the judging beyond just being garnish during appearance judging.

This is a great question. Good opportunity for teams to get some insight into the mystery of what happens in the judging area.

Stoke&Smoke
01-07-2011, 12:07 PM
Don't have my judges manual handy anymore, but I know of at least 1 KCBS sanctioned comp that had french bread in place of saltines. Rep didn't have an issue with it

But nothing to drink but water is definitely true. You are also intructed not to use things like wet naps between samples since the scent can interfere with your senses

I've had to resort to a little parsley more than ones also.

gordo
01-07-2011, 12:51 PM
Have seen dill pickles and small cheese cubes used also..Not KCBS

CivilWarBBQ
01-07-2011, 12:55 PM
At some KCBS contests you see seedless grapes made available at the judging table, but they are to be used between categories only to clear the palatte. Between entries, only saltines and water.

gmholler
01-07-2011, 08:18 PM
Have seen dill pickles and small cheese cubes used also..Not KCBS

The cheese cubes are to cleanse spicy foods from the palate, but they leave a thin film on your tongue...the pickles take this off. Personally, I like using those better than just crackers & water - I find they do a better job for me. But it's up to the organizer to remember to bring them and many times, you're lucky they remember the crackers. Grapes and carrots work good, too, and you'll see those used lots of times.

At some contests, the organizer will pass out baggies with damp/wet washcloths for the judges to clean their hands with - of late, many judges have been bringing these themselves. These are really helpful, since a lot of times it's a real pain to get up from the judging table, find your way to a restroom to clean your hands, and then find your way back to your seat, all before the next round begins. I've seen several organizers provide a case of those individually-wrapped hand wipes and had to tell them sorry, we can't use those (most are scented and will leave a fragrant residue on your hands - remember, part of a person's experience of the BBQ product is affected by the scent).

I don't know, maybe they're going to have to start giving the judges milk to drink between chicken samples - there have been times when I have been almost SURE all the cooks decided to see who could turn in the spicy-est chicken!

Lynn.

LT72884
01-07-2011, 10:25 PM
WOW, thats alot of info, thanks guys. I have to judge someones rubs and suaces next week so i needed a we bit of guidance on how to cleanse the palate so that i could fairly judge.

Hub
01-08-2011, 07:04 AM
The saltines and bottled water provided at KCBS comps do the job quite nicely. At some, there are seedless grapes too. Over the years I've found I don't have to "cleanse" after every entry -- only the ones that are heavy smoke, hot spice or very sweet or sour. Those aren't bad things, necessarily, just things that tend to "cling".