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Chipper
10-21-2010, 08:05 AM
I'm not 100% on it, but it looks like the Coleman Hot Water machines are off the market. I have seen lot's of teams using them and am wondering if it's a good idea to pick one up used, or is there a better alternative.
Now that the season is over for us, it's time to get some upgraded stuff.

Thanks

Stoke&Smoke
10-21-2010, 09:12 AM
Where did you hear they're off the market? Here's thier site, and here are the heaters.
http://www.coleman.com/coleman/ColemanCom/subcategory.asp?CategoryID=2200

We love ours, with one exception. We got it at the beginning of this year, and all but one time when using it, I've had an issue with the battery terminal connection where I have had to take out the battery, disconnect, and reconnect it, or the thing doesn't turn on.

Also, be sure to read the whole instruction book. One of the surprises is, if you have the charger plugged into the unit, it won't turn on. Other than that, it's a great addition! Certainly better than the turkey fryer and 30 qt pot we used to use!

ZILLA
10-21-2010, 09:13 AM
They have had lots of problems with those over the years. I have had two and while you can make adjustments to make them more reliable I'd go with something else.

Divemaster
10-21-2010, 09:20 AM
We got ours prior to this season and have loved it! Not a lick of problems...

Also, be sure to read the whole instruction book. One of the surprises is, if you have the charger plugged into the unit, it won't turn on.
We did read through the book and couldn't find it at all. It took us 2 hours to figure that one out! Between you and I, I think it's a squirrel conspiracy!

SmokeInDaEye
10-21-2010, 09:28 AM
I like mine when I get around to hooking it up at contests but have had two issues. First, be careful with the knob. You have to push in to turn it on and if you break it the whole thing needs to be replaced (which they did for free so not too bad).

Also, I bought the adapter to connect a hose directly to it but it was mainly plastic and the pressure blew it apart right away so now I pull water from jugs. Anyone ever get the adapter to work?

Also used the shower attachment once when we had no gas in the house so that was an added bonus.

Divemaster
10-21-2010, 10:49 AM
That's good to know about the hose adapter. It's one of the things I was going to put on my Christmas list but now I'm think otherwise...

As for the shower hose, we were thinking that it would work well for rinsing prior to and after washing...

SmokeInDaEye
10-21-2010, 10:58 AM
That's good to know about the hose adapter. It's one of the things I was going to put on my Christmas list but now I'm think otherwise...

As for the shower hose, we were thinking that it would work well for rinsing prior to and after washing...

Yeah, it doesn't run long before the water cools off but definitely works for rinsing. That was after 3 days with no gas in the house.

gjdad
10-21-2010, 12:25 PM
Are these units potable? Meaning do they meet the requirements for drinking water?

Goddahavit
10-21-2010, 12:51 PM
Chipper, I saw a few teams using the eccotemp l5 for hot water, I am going to try it and see, especially if I can adapt it to the small propane bottles, then its pretty portable.

Eric

vexter1
10-21-2010, 01:00 PM
Chipper, I saw a few teams using the eccotemp l5 for hot water, I am going to try it and see, especially if I can adapt it to the small propane bottles, then its pretty portable.

Eric

I've had 2 Eccotemp L5's - they have been PERFECT. Zero complaints. You can find them on ebay or overstock for right around $120.

bodcat
10-21-2010, 01:01 PM
I had one that was several years old that broke, Coleman had me a new free one within a couple weeks. They have something like a 10 year warranty. I used it for 6 competitions this year before having to recharge the battery. They are handy.

CBQ
10-21-2010, 01:10 PM
Also, I bought the adapter to connect a hose directly to it but it was mainly plastic and the pressure blew it apart right away so now I pull water from jugs. Anyone ever get the adapter to work?

I bet it would work fine with a pressure regulator in place. I use one at places with high water pressure (like Harpoon). (I don't use the Coleman, but the concept is the same.) Here is just one example that can drop pressure to 25 PSI. (Most homes are in the 50-70 PSI range.)

http://www.amazon.com/Water-Pressure-Regulator-PRESUR-REGULATOR/dp/B002XVB5BW/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1287684396&sr=8-5

comfrank
10-21-2010, 02:35 PM
First, be careful with the knob. You have to push in to turn it on and if you break it the whole thing needs to be replaced (which they did for free so not too bad).




You're luckier than me, then. On the very first competition use of it, we broke the knob. Coleman would not cover it under the warranty, and after I complained and complained they finally sold me one at "half" price. But it was half the list price and they still insisted on charging me shipping. The total came out to very nearly what I originally paid for it on Amazon. Once this one breaks, which I know it will, I'll go with something else.

--frank in Wilson, NY

Bentley
10-21-2010, 03:00 PM
Wow, we bought our 1st one in 2007, had warrenty issue about 18 months in, just would not heat...sent us a new one, same issue 2 months ago, just sent it in about 6 weeks ago...they are on back order, but are supposed to be sending it by end of October, just hope I get it by the time Acorn rolls around 1st weekend of November.

They did want the turn knob, hose and picture that the unit was destroyed...Think this was sufficent proof?

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/lwnna/IMG_1134.jpg

SmokeInDaEye
10-21-2010, 03:49 PM
Wow, we bought our 1st one in 2007, had warrenty issue about 18 months in, just would not heat...sent us a new one, same issue 2 months ago, just sent it in about 6 weeks ago...they are on back order, but are supposed to be sending it by end of October, just hope I get it by the time Acorn rolls around 1st weekend of November.

They did want the turn knob, hose and picture that the unit was destroyed...Think this was sufficent proof?

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/lwnna/IMG_1134.jpg

That's awesome! I just unscrewed the case on mine. Still have some usable parts.

Bones
10-21-2010, 03:53 PM
I've had 2 Eccotemp L5's - they have been PERFECT. Zero complaints. You can find them on ebay or overstock for right around $120.
Can you use this water heater without a pressure water supply? Will this work from a 5 gallon bucket with gravity?

Bentley
10-21-2010, 06:21 PM
That's awesome! I just unscrewed the case on mine. Still have some usable parts.

Amazing what one good ax swing will do...:becky:

beam boys bbq
10-21-2010, 06:34 PM
I have one with all the attchments and the carring bag used for one season then we bought an rv and don't need it any more PM me iff you are looking for one:thumb:

bodcat
10-21-2010, 06:40 PM
Can you use this water heater without a pressure water supply? Will this work from a 5 gallon bucket with gravity?

Yes it has a pump on it. I just drop the pump in a 5 gallon bucket and it's good to go.

When I get home I will have to upload my pic. I sent them a pic with my truck on top of it. What's funny is the case was really the only thing damaged after I backed off it.

ZILLA
10-21-2010, 07:05 PM
I called them this morning to see if I needed to stock up on parts and the rep said they are not discontinued and remain a popular product. As long as you follow a few rules yours should last a while
Rule one - upgrade the power supply
Rule two - never plug or unplug the power supply to the water heater while the other end is plugged into the wall. This can and will short out the power adapter.
Rule three- never let the unit charge for more than three hours. This can cause overheating of the power adapter.
Rule four- be sure to use very clean water in your water supply bucket. Sediment will kill the submersible pump.

Mo-Dave
10-21-2010, 07:39 PM
[QUOTE=ZILLA;1437683]I called them this morning to see if I needed to stock up on parts and the rep said they are not discontinued and remain a popular product. As long as you follow a few rules yours should last a while
Rule one - upgrade the power supply
Rule two - never plug or unplug the power supply to the water heater while the other end is plugged into the wall. This can and will short out the power adapter.
Rule three- never let the unit charge for more than three hours. This can cause overheating of the power adapter.
Rule four- be sure to use very clean water in your water supply bucket. Sediment will kill the submersible pump.[/QUOTE

I have never heard of this upgrading of the power supply, what does that involve?

I had one go bad on me with about 3 days left on the warranty, it was replaced for free but I did have to send them the pump and knob with photos showing it was messed up.
Dave

Bones
10-21-2010, 08:18 PM
Yes it has a pump on it. I just drop the pump in a 5 gallon bucket and it's good to go.

When I get home I will have to upload my pic. I sent them a pic with my truck on top of it. What's funny is the case was really the only thing damaged after I backed off it.


Thanks, I may ask Santa for one.

ZILLA
10-21-2010, 09:49 PM
[QUOTE=ZILLA;1437683]I called them this morning to see if I needed to stock up on parts and the rep said they are not discontinued and remain a popular product. As long as you follow a few rules yours should last a while
Rule one - upgrade the power supply
Rule two - never plug or unplug the power supply to the water heater while the other end is plugged into the wall. This can and will short out the power adapter.
Rule three- never let the unit charge for more than three hours. This can cause overheating of the power adapter.
Rule four- be sure to use very clean water in your water supply bucket. Sediment will kill the submersible pump.[/QUOTE

I have never heard of this upgrading of the power supply, what does that involve?

I had one go bad on me with about 3 days left on the warranty, it was replaced for free but I did have to send them the pump and knob with photos showing it was messed up.
Dave

Here is the link I posted a while back.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86272&highlight=coleman

You could go to the 1.5 amp unit with no trouble and it would get even less hot but the 1 amp seems to have done the trick.

Coleman is on a one year back order for the 750ma crappy ones but don't waste your money on those.

I'm also going to order another hose and pump for a backup. Coleman said today they have over 500 in stock and at about $14.00 plus shipping it good insurance. This pump is the other thing that crapped out on me. It's very cheaply made.

I've had no problems at all with the hose adaptor on mine but they're pretty cheap too at $22.00 plus shipping

My unit has been humming along all year with out so much as a hicup.

bmanMA
10-21-2010, 09:54 PM
I called them this morning to see if I needed to stock up on parts and the rep said they are not discontinued and remain a popular product. As long as you follow a few rules yours should last a while
Rule one - upgrade the power supply
Rule two - never plug or unplug the power supply to the water heater while the other end is plugged into the wall. This can and will short out the power adapter.
Rule three- never let the unit charge for more than three hours. This can cause overheating of the power adapter.
Rule four- be sure to use very clean water in your water supply bucket. Sediment will kill the submersible pump.

Wow, this sounds like a very broken piece of equipment guys...

ZILLA
10-21-2010, 10:06 PM
Wow, this sounds like a very broken piece of equipment guys...

Ya know it's really not bad but once you start moving stuff around as in "Portable" stuff goes haywire easy. The rules above are from my own experience with two units over 5 years. Some of it you should implement on most equipment like this. Buying a used one would be the way to go.

smoke it if ya got it
10-21-2010, 10:46 PM
We have used the Coleman model for two years now without a problem. Guess I better cross my fingers.

Goddahavit
10-22-2010, 06:56 AM
Thanks, I may ask Santa for one.

Bones, I think bodcat is referring to the coleman, I do not think the eccotemp has a pump, but it can be used with one.

Jeff_in_KC
10-22-2010, 08:00 AM
We bought our first one in 2006 and it finally shot craps this year. We bought a second one and paid close to $300 for it at Bass Pro. Three and a half years of pretty heavy use I thought was good. Wish I'd paid attention to the warranty thing. Free would have been much better.

Bones
10-22-2010, 09:58 AM
Bones, I think bodcat is referring to the coleman, I do not think the eccotemp has a pump, but it can be used with one.
Thanks for the update. I will do some more research.

Bentley
10-22-2010, 03:35 PM
Rule one - upgrade the power supply
Rule two - never plug or unplug the power supply to the water heater while the other end is plugged into the wall. This can and will short out the power adapter.
Rule three- never let the unit charge for more than three hours. This can cause overheating of the power adapter.



Dont know what 1 means.

Never heard of 2 and 3, probably have pluged the unit in many times when power is hot, have let the unit charge overnight most times, I was told to unplug when the light turms green and not before.

Maybe thats why were on unit 3 in 3 1/2 years...Thanks.

Code3BBQ
10-23-2010, 03:57 PM
Are there any other comparable machines on the market that are worth looking at?

ZILLA
10-25-2010, 10:08 AM
There is nothing that sits on a table that I've ever seen. However there are lots of options with various equipment that can be inter connected and mounted on a table or in a truck utility box.

atvalaska
10-29-2010, 10:53 AM
Yes it has a pump on it. I just drop the pump in a 5 gallon bucket and it's good to go.

When I get home I will have to upload my pic. I sent them a pic with my truck on top of it. What's funny is the case was really the only thing damaged after I backed off it.
:clap2:had it since 2007 not a lick of trouble ..till i did like above...(cause i left the bottle at home:redface:) and GOT water in the pump and burned it up.... i took it to the jack ..and the lugage monkeys/ tsa could not break it :thumb:

JD McGee
10-30-2010, 09:50 AM
I bought mine about mid-season...so far so good! :thumb: