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sfisch
07-28-2010, 08:30 AM
Got an email from organizer Ron Cates that there is not much response from teams entering the contest and that it is in jeopardy of being canceled. This is an excellent venue with the biggest payout ($30,000.00) of any contest in Michigan. Anyone who may be thinking about entering, please contact the event organizer's and let them know.
The organizers have extended the registration until this Friday.

Thanks
Scott

Scottie
07-28-2010, 10:02 AM
All I want to know is.. Where are all the folks that were so vocal last spring about how great big money is for BBQ? Ronnie Cates is putting this big money contests on and he isn't getting any support from these folks? what gives?

Ford
07-28-2010, 10:12 AM
I'm registered and know a bunch of MI teams that have said they are registered. Where's all the teams chasing the SOTW bonus money?

Bet we have more signed up than for Daytona.

Bbq Bubba
07-28-2010, 11:09 AM
My understanding is theres more Mi. teams signed up than SOTW teams? I thought this would be a huge draw considering the payouts and the bonus money involved. :confused:

QueTPiesBBQ
07-28-2010, 11:38 AM
sidelined myself, probably wouldn't have driven that far for a contest. And the entry fees are what is keeping most people out of the contests from what I hear around here. Most people that I know are not sponsored and can take a $250 entry fee, but when it gets up to $450 or $500 it scares a lot of people away. Just my two cents.

Sledneck
07-28-2010, 12:07 PM
All I want to know is.. Where are all the folks that were so vocal last spring about how great big money is for BBQ? Ronnie Cates is putting this big money contests on and he isn't getting any support from these folks? what gives?

Tell Ron Cates to stop snubbing the northeast and bring us a contest, we will fill it.

Let me edit cause i just looked at the entry form for michigan. We will fill it if the entry fee wasnt so high. Chit i can guarantee big prize money if i were charging $480 for an entry fee. A bit steep for a lot of pockets in this economy.

BruceB
07-28-2010, 12:32 PM
How's that hope and change working out for everyone?

bbqbull
07-28-2010, 04:45 PM
How's that hope and change working out for everyone?

Just peachy Bruce!

Ford
07-28-2010, 04:51 PM
There are only 9 Michigan teams signed up. I think know most of them. What's with the GLBBQA and not getting any teams out? I didn't get a recent mailing to support this after all the big to do about the MI bonus money.

From what I hear (RC) they have more non MI teams but not a lot more.

A final decision will be made by Friday midnight. Wonder what else we can add to the schedule if this one drops off.

getyourrubonbbq
07-28-2010, 05:01 PM
I think the fees have a lot to do with it. I was going to do the SOTW comps around me, but once I saw $350-400+ entry fees and two comps didn't even provide power I quickly changed my mind.

sfisch
07-28-2010, 05:57 PM
Ford,
Think you better check your numbers, the majority of the Michigan teams signed up are GLBBQA members. The event has been addressed and info passed along to members on the forum since it was first announced. Take a look at the association home page and events calendar, oh thats right, I forgot, you don't go to the association website, you just paid your $35.00 to get a shot at the special contest money for GLBBQA members.
Ronnie is working hard to still make this happen, no organization can force people to pay money to enter and participate in an event.
Perhaps veteran, well known, successful competitors such as yourself could lend your approval to events that would lead others to want to participate and make contests more successful for all to enjoy.

Scott

Ron_L
07-28-2010, 06:05 PM
The entry fee had us thinking twice. We finally decided to go for it and then I found out that I had to be in California for the week before the competition and would be home in time to get there. So we're out.

As far as the entry fee, Ronnie points out that the $450 includes two tickets to the race values at $150 ($75 each). That makes the real entry fee $300, which isn't the far out of line. BUT... if we were competing we wouldn't be able to stay for the race, so what do i do with two tickets? It would be nice is buying race tickets were optional. I think they would have more teams signed up if the entree fee were $300, and if you want to see the race then add $150.

Spydermike72
07-28-2010, 06:36 PM
Ford,

I guess I need to clear some things up here... An e-mail was sent on May 24th to all active members of the GLBBQA it was sent to 70 members and opened by 63. If you joined the GLBBQA after that there was not another e-mail sent. For that I apologize...

We also have a write up on the home page of the GLBBQA website (which gets over 1600 hits per month) on the event with rules and links to registration site. We also posted this on our Facebook Account (which has over 560 fans), at least 3 times including as recently as today...
We also posted the event and extra money on several BBQ Forums including this one...

Of the 20 teams that are signed up right now, 12 of them are GLBBQA teams. I think that is pretty good penetration... There are 8 Michigan teams signed up right now. I think we have promoted it about as much as we can with out calling every member of the GLBBQA...
Can you think of any other way we could have done more ?? Keeping in mind that the Association is run by volunteers ?


There are only 9 Michigan teams signed up. I think know most of them. What's with the GLBBQA and not getting any teams out? I didn't get a recent mailing to support this after all the big to do about the MI bonus money.

From what I hear (RC) they have more non MI teams but not a lot more.

A final decision will be made by Friday midnight. Wonder what else we can add to the schedule if this one drops off.

Ford
07-28-2010, 06:51 PM
Ford,
Think you better check your numbers, the majority of the Michigan teams signed up are GLBBQA members. The event has been addressed and info passed along to members on the forum since it was first announced. Take a look at the association home page and events calendar, oh thats right, I forgot, you don't go to the association website, you just paid your $35.00 to get a shot at the special contest money for GLBBQA members.
Ronnie is working hard to still make this happen, no organization can force people to pay money to enter and participate in an event.
Perhaps veteran, well known, successful competitors such as yourself could lend your approval to events that would lead others to want to participate and make contests more successful for all to enjoy.

Scott
Scott- better start reading the GLBBQA Forums. You'll find I'm posting there. Also visit the site on a weekly basis. My suggestion is a final reminder trying to encourage members to support the event. And a majority of 9 is still not many teams from MI. Got that number directly from Ron this afternoon.


Guess if you'd made it to GR you'd know that I was talking to people about MIS and encouraging teams to sign up. As a regular member I don't have access to the GLBBQA membership email list so it's tough for me to market events other than when I see people at contests.

Steve - just one final email. It's summer and people don't get on the Forums every day but they usually check their email. And I wasn't complaining about not getting emails. I did get some mailings on the GLBBQA affiliation but can't remember if it was from you or Ron. Guess it was Ron. I figure with less than 50 teams it's not a qualifier so I'm only going for the cash now. That's disappointing but life. If they cancel I will find another one to do.

ique
07-28-2010, 06:57 PM
Tell Ron Cates to stop snubbing the northeast and bring us a contest, we will fill it.

Let me edit cause i just looked at the entry form for michigan. We will fill it if the entry fee wasnt so high. Chit i can guarantee big prize money if i were charging $480 for an entry fee. A bit steep for a lot of pockets in this economy.

One of the CT casinos would be a perfect venue for a big $ Northeast bbq comp

Smoke'n Ice
07-28-2010, 08:48 PM
Entry fees vs pay outs are out of line for other similar contests. There was a large controversy on an earlier SOTW concering payouts and sponsor money and this was enough to keep me from even supporting those that are in my driving range.

Scottie
07-28-2010, 09:33 PM
One of the CT casinos would be a perfect venue for a big $ Northeast bbq comp


Yo buddy. I meed to check CT off my list... ;)

drbbq
07-28-2010, 09:44 PM
How's that hope and change working out for everyone?

Yes of course, It's Obama's fault.

Sledneck
07-28-2010, 09:56 PM
One of the CT casinos would be a perfect venue for a big $ Northeast bbq comp

Bingo!

Jeff_in_KC
07-28-2010, 11:17 PM
Yes of course, It's Obama's fault.

Absolutely! Most things are...

sfisch
07-29-2010, 08:00 AM
Ford,
Thanks for trying to help out by spreading the word at Grand Rapids, one of the few contests I've missed the past 3 yrs but I was at Camp Grayling cooking for a whole bunch of soldiers Friday and Saturday.
Gives you a whole new appreciation for those of you who vend!
Looks like we got one more team signed up from these posts so thats a positive, just hope Ron can make this happen.

Scott






Scott- better start reading the GLBBQA Forums. You'll find I'm posting there. Also visit the site on a weekly basis. My suggestion is a final reminder trying to encourage members to support the event. And a majority of 9 is still not many teams from MI. Got that number directly from Ron this afternoon.


Guess if you'd made it to GR you'd know that I was talking to people about MIS and encouraging teams to sign up. As a regular member I don't have access to the GLBBQA membership email list so it's tough for me to market events other than when I see people at contests.

Steve - just one final email. It's summer and people don't get on the Forums every day but they usually check their email. And I wasn't complaining about not getting emails. I did get some mailings on the GLBBQA affiliation but can't remember if it was from you or Ron. Guess it was Ron. I figure with less than 50 teams it's not a qualifier so I'm only going for the cash now. That's disappointing but life. If they cancel I will find another one to do.

Scottie
07-29-2010, 08:47 AM
Yes of course, It's Obama's fault.


Here I thought it was Gore all along...

Smokedelic
07-29-2010, 08:53 AM
Here I thought it was Gore all along...
I figured it was Merl's fault.

Dustaway
07-29-2010, 08:57 AM
Yes of course, It's Obama's fault.


No if they cancel this event I'm on record that it has Merl's name all over it:-D:-D

sfisch
07-29-2010, 12:03 PM
Good News,
got a email from Ronnie stating the event is on and will not be canceled. Hope a few of you can make it at the last minute, I am sure he will not turn away entries.

SCott

goodbuddiesbbq
07-29-2010, 02:52 PM
And as always are proud supporters of President Obama.

Our friend, your president!

drbbq
07-29-2010, 04:03 PM
I figured it was Merl's fault.

Maybe Merl and Obama are working together to wreck everything.

Smokedelic
07-29-2010, 06:20 PM
No if they cancel this event I'm on record that it has Merl's name all over it:-D:-D
Sure....why not?

It makes as much sense as your statement that Merl was to blame for the New Orleans contest being cancelled.:-D:-D

Sledneck
07-29-2010, 07:46 PM
Just curious about something that never was mentioned in this bbq crisis. How many team are actually signed up total?

Bbq Bubba
07-29-2010, 08:03 PM
Just curious about something that never was mentioned in this bbq crisis. How many team are actually signed up total?

16 as of this AM. I hear a few more have signed up today.

goodbuddiesbbq
07-29-2010, 08:11 PM
How can an event paying out 14 places and 30K not get more teams than this? I am shocked as there should be a lot of teams that can at least break even on their expenses for the weekend.

No offense to any other events, but I see a lot of events offering 5k in prize money sign up 50 teams. I understand the entries are less, but not that much (sell the NASCAR tickets).

We have to support events and folks like this that are ambassadors of the sport. Especially when they are putting up almost 500k in a single year for bbq events.

Obama and Smoke on the Water Productions working hand in hand to stimulate the bbq community.

WhiskeyBentBBQ
07-29-2010, 09:06 PM
We are making the flight from Florida to be there for it. They did a great job in Daytona and we are looking forward to this event. Look forward to meeting some of you guys!

Bbq Bubba
07-29-2010, 09:25 PM
We are making the flight from Florida to be there for it. They did a great job in Daytona and we are looking forward to this event. Look forward to meeting some of you guys!

Looking forward to finally meeting the REAL cooker of this team. :boxing:

sfisch
07-30-2010, 07:53 AM
Chad,
glad to hear you are coming up. Matt told us he was the main man when we were in Marietta.
Please bring some of those politically incorrect T's !!

Scott

Dylan's Dad
07-30-2010, 08:52 AM
Now I'm confused...who's Pit Biotch am I for this comp? :-P

Smoke'n Ice
07-30-2010, 07:01 PM
I heard rumors that there is not a gov proc so therefore is they don't get 50+ teams, it's not even a qualifier for the GAB, AR and Jack draw.

Scottie
07-30-2010, 07:16 PM
Mack, I'm going for the TOY points..... All 30,000 of them.... ;)

Besides... The GAB, ARI and THE JACK are overrated.... No TOY points..... lol

Spydermike72
07-31-2010, 03:15 AM
Getting a Gov Proc is not a problem in Michigan, Granmole will sign anything... :heh:

Seriously, we should be able to do something about that if that is the case...

goodbuddiesbbq
07-31-2010, 05:49 AM
Chad...if we have any of the "old shirts", the much more offensive shirts, bring as many as you have.

Eric...you still can be pit biotch until somebody comes begging for the position. Don't think Chad will have much problems with that. Also, that Red Thermapen was very calibrated...bring it!

Some of our biggest achievements have come when Whiskey Bent Corporate & Midwest Division are at the same place at the same time. I didn't know we were playing prison rules!

If we have a list of teams, I'll begin putting the bbq odds down for the event. This is a big thing in FBA-ville and anybody can get in on the action before and after turn-ins $$$$$$$.

We can't cook pork, but we can handicap a bbq event.

Matt Vann
Whiskey Bent BBQ
Midwest Division

sfisch
07-31-2010, 08:32 AM
Excellent Matt, I am an offensive kind of guy and will proudly wear your shirt!
Oh, I am a handicap too for our team, does that win me something automatically??
Looking forward to meeting the whole team at the racetrack.

SCott

WhiskeyBentBBQ
07-31-2010, 02:22 PM
Sounds like we are going to have one heck of a good time at this one. I will see if I can't get some of the 1st edition shirts for this one because the slogan is still true, we are "Smokin' more meat than a backslidin' muslim"!!

Look forward to it guys and can't wait to meet everyone. Don't be nervous Matt, Corporate doesn't plan on coming up there with the heavy hand unless things are just real out of spec. :-P

goodbuddiesbbq
07-31-2010, 02:31 PM
I don't know if I mentioned this, but Chad is the head of FBA's HR Department & Whiskey Bent BBQ's sensitivity training.

If you need a slogan for your team, chad will be giving advice late night on friday.

sfisch
07-31-2010, 07:20 PM
Sensitivity training, I was sensitive once I think. Yep that 1st edition shirt is the one Matt told us about in Ohio, that will be a keeper!
In case anyone was wondering, got a email verifying that the event will be held on pavement.

Scott

Ford
08-03-2010, 11:59 AM
Getting a Gov Proc is not a problem in Michigan, Granmole will sign anything... :heh:

Seriously, we should be able to do something about that if that is the case...
Hey Mike. How are you coming on a governor's proclamation? Sure would be nice.

Spydermike72
08-03-2010, 02:17 PM
I was not asked to work on one, but I can, I will contact Ronnie and see if he would like one.

I see 24 teams have signed up, is that an accurate number ? I sure would like to see about 6 more teams...


Hey Mike. How are you coming on a governor's proclamation? Sure would be nice.

Rub
08-03-2010, 02:20 PM
Ahhh, Good Buddies and Whiskey Bent spreadin' the FBA love.
Preach the word and sign 'em up boys!

Ford
08-03-2010, 02:43 PM
24 names on my email Would be a qualifier if we had a proclamation. Otherwise it's just us good old boys playing for 30K.

Spydermike72
08-03-2010, 06:57 PM
Got an e-mail into Ronnie, I will start working my political contacts tomorrow just to be ready. I dont want to step on Ronnie's toes, but I will be ready to pull the trigger if it is a go...

Scottie
08-03-2010, 07:53 PM
24 names on my email Would be a qualifier if we had a proclamation. Otherwise it's just us good old boys playing for 30K.


$30k??? I'm competing for ToY points... ;)

Bud's BBQ
08-03-2010, 08:08 PM
$30k??? I'm competing for ToY points... ;)


Points it is Scottie, everyone knows that's where the big money is :roll::becky:

Spydermike72
08-04-2010, 11:45 AM
Ok, I have submitted the documents to the Governors office. They said they would work with us to fast track it, but cant make any promises... I will keep everyone updated...

Scottie
08-04-2010, 01:00 PM
Ok, I have submitted the documents to the Governors office. They said they would work with us to fast track it, but cant make any promises... I will keep everyone updated...


Damn... My odds are decreasing by the minute for MI.... :roll:

Ford
08-04-2010, 01:47 PM
Scottie Guess you saw my email with the new teams added to the list this week. This is going to be fun.

Captian Dan
08-04-2010, 10:21 PM
Ok, I have submitted the documents to the Governors office. They said they would work with us to fast track it, but cant make any promises... I will keep everyone updated...

Good work Mike, way to get right on it!:clap2:

I'm not gonna be there but I hafta tell you I do appreciate your effort to make this event as good as it can be.I hope the proclamation goes through on time.:eusa_clap

Spydermike72
08-11-2010, 03:05 PM
I received the Proclamation today!!! :thumb: :clap2:

Scottie
08-11-2010, 03:18 PM
I received the Proclamation today!!! :thumb: :clap2:


Good job Mike.

Bud's BBQ
08-11-2010, 04:16 PM
Nicely done Mike. Guess you were right, Jennifer will sign just about anything :clap2:

Ford
08-11-2010, 05:11 PM
I received the Proclamation today!!! :thumb: :clap2:
Way to go. I just sent Michelle an email letting her know. We may be seeing a team from Texas this weekend.

Scottie
08-11-2010, 06:43 PM
Way to go. I just sent Michelle an email letting her know. We may be seeing a team from Texas this weekend.



They are already coming...

grossepellets
08-11-2010, 06:51 PM
How do you sign up? what is ron gates ph#? I have googled it without luck and I dont see the entry or link here on the site -
thanks

Spydermike72
08-11-2010, 07:47 PM
Here is the link to the website, I don't have Ronnie's cell phone, it is my understanding that he is already in Michigan...
http://www.smokeonthewaterbbq.com/

Bbq Bubba
08-11-2010, 08:52 PM
Way to go. I just sent Michelle an email letting her know. We may be seeing a team from Texas this weekend.

Since you seem to be the contact person, how bout an updated list?

Ford
08-11-2010, 09:49 PM
Haven't got anything more from Betty on new additions. You should have all the email addresses already or Mike does anyway. My email on the Pot Luck lists most teams. I guess from Scottie's post that we can add the Wades.

michiana mark
08-11-2010, 11:18 PM
Haven't got anything more from Betty on new additions. You should have all the email addresses already or Mike does anyway. My email on the Pot Luck lists most teams. I guess from Scottie's post that we can add the Wades.

Potluck? e-mail? Hum?

Ford
08-12-2010, 05:08 AM
Didn't see ypu on the list. You coming?

michiana mark
08-12-2010, 09:30 PM
Didn't see ypu on the list. You coming?
Yes, we are in.