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Red Valley BBQ
05-09-2010, 11:31 PM
Ok, guys and gals. What would you score this chicken entry? I was really surprised at the scores we got. I will post actual scores in a couple of days. I know the shrubbery is not as good as it could be, but you're not supposed to judge the garnish, right?


05-10-2010, 05:03 AM
Hard to see the meat with all that garnish. No shine to the finish. The meat looks dull and uninviting. Did you use a honey based finishing glaze? Two on top right have white spots and bottom left and right have lots of extra rub. I'd be generous with a 7 but wouldn't be surprised at a 6. This is average at best.

Sorry but you asked for an honest opinion.

Diva Q
05-10-2010, 05:12 AM
I would give it a 7 for the same reasons Ford listed.

05-10-2010, 05:26 AM
7..the angle of the pic doesnt help and really isnt how a judge would be viewing it so its hard to say ..although I do think its above average
as far as garnish not being the best it could be..yea its not a greens contest but if you choose to use (its still an option) why not take the time to make it the best it could be..if its in the box its all part of the total appearance..its there to enhance the meat not detract from it..

Bbq Bubba
05-10-2010, 07:25 AM
6-7 for reasons above.

05-10-2010, 07:37 AM
I wouldn't be real excited to take a bite of this chicken...6. It needs some color to make it look like it's done.

Jacked UP BBQ
05-10-2010, 08:11 AM
I personally like the looks of your chicken, if it was a roasting comp, 9. For bbq, it does not look like bbq'd chicken. 6 at best

05-10-2010, 08:17 AM
I'd give it a 9. Not all the chicken that is turned in is shiny and honey coated. NTTAWWT, just saying.
Garnish, what garnish?

Lake Dogs
05-10-2010, 08:29 AM
7, perhaps 8. I'm not a big "shine" fan, as after a while shiny gets unappetizing
(to me; no longer looks like meat), but these are flat. Otherwise, what Ford said.

05-10-2010, 08:41 AM
Jacked Up and Eaton Hogg infer a couple imortant points.

1) BBQ chicken does not have to look like it was dipped in sticky red sauce to be appealing.

2) Judge the meat.

3) It actually DOES look like delicious, ROASTED chicken to me. I bet it tasted good.

All that being said ..... I think a 7 is right.

05-10-2010, 08:57 AM
I don't judge garnish! 8 it looks uniform in size amd color

05-10-2010, 09:00 AM
I'd give it an 8 because they don't look the same, some are lighter colored and less seasoned than the others. Otherwise it looks great. As for the greens, since they aren't supposed to be taken into consideration on the judging, I just pretend they aren't even there and focus on the meat. With that said, the only reason to use it (my opinion) is to cover up problem spots.

After reading some of the comments, I have to say that I can understand scoring down for no shine if you are expecting them to have a shine, but at the same time the rules allow for unsauced chicken. So an unsauced piece of chicken should have every bit as fair a shot at winning as a sauced one (my opinion again).

05-10-2010, 09:34 AM
No shine, they dont look the same...Wow, dont ever turn different parts of the chicken in that aren't sauced...An 8.

Rich Parker
05-10-2010, 02:27 PM
I would say an 8 because I want to take a bite.

05-10-2010, 02:48 PM
I score it as a 7 as well.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
05-10-2010, 03:24 PM
I like it, I dont think it needs to be shiny to be bbq. I would give it an 8 +. nice job.

keep in mind my favorite saying is STUPID CHICKEN..

Balls Casten
05-10-2010, 04:03 PM
I’m a big fan of un-sauced bbq. But what we have learned over the years is that the chances of getting 6 judges that like un-sauced Q at one table; is going to be a long shot. I’m guessing you got a 9 or two and the rest were 6 and 7.

The more we compete the farther we get from BBQ we would cook at home.

05-10-2010, 04:22 PM
The reasons above is why I dont cook in competitions LOL Who gives a chit about garnish, color, shine, etc....only thing that should be judged is the taste. Just my 2 cents. Keep rockin'


Capn Kev
05-10-2010, 04:24 PM
I would give it a 7. Just my humble opinion.

05-10-2010, 04:31 PM
I'm giving it an 8, mostly because the color isn't even from piece to piece. Seeing it in person maight raise it up to a 9, photos don't always do justice to the product. As far as the 'shiney' remarks go, I'm going to judge your entry "as presented by the cook"; not on what isn't there. Any way you get an 8+ or 9- from me.

05-10-2010, 06:46 PM
The more we compete the farther we get from BBQ we would cook at home.

I hate that I agree with this.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between what you want to eat and what you cook as you travel the X axis (# of competitions) of competition BBQ.

Balls Casten
05-10-2010, 10:27 PM
I'm not saying it such a bad thing. Only that there is a target that seems to be differnt from mine. No different from cooking for my friends ... over cooked and "falling off the bone" or cooking for myself and being hot and spicey. You can cook spicey and get some good scores, but to get 6 good scores cooking spicey is going to be tuff.
That chicken looked inviting to me but as you can see. The vast numbers do not find it apealing.

05-10-2010, 10:49 PM
yeah I'd give you a 7 not all chicken needs to be shiny. color is consistant, pieces uniform, the on right top kinda sticking up showin bone
not to bad

Red Valley BBQ
05-10-2010, 11:26 PM
the on right top kinda sticking up showin bone

That was just a dark spot where the skin didn't fully cover the end, there were no bones in this entry.

Thanks for all the feedback. Balls Casten was just about right on the money with the scoring. The scores were: 9 6 6 6 7 8. This was the first time I tried the de-boned chicken. The team was very happy with the way the chicken turned out. After getting the results, we were very surprised how poor the appearance scores were. Thanks to the Brethren, I have some ideas to hopefully improve our appearance scores in the future. Thanks to everyone who replied. Another reason why this forum is the best BBQ forum out there. :thumb:

05-10-2010, 11:30 PM
You don't normally see it at this angle. If table captain presents like this I'll stand up to get better view. (For me) you don't need a shiny "candied" chicken. But this looks a little blotchy. I'd give it a seven (7). A little bbq sauce might mask some of the light spots - but again you don't need shiny bbq sauce dipped chicken (for me).

05-11-2010, 03:03 PM
I would give it a 7. Same reasons.