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Southern Home Boy
04-26-2010, 05:58 PM
Man... we got STOMPED in Hazelwood. :doh:

Rightfully so, but still, a nasty blow to the ego and fairly discouraging overall. I already posted the chicken box in the "Worst Ever Turn-in Box" thread, but here it is again, just in case you need to scare the children....
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/southernhomeboy/2010CookoffKickoffChicken.jpg
and the Ribs
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/southernhomeboy/2010CookoffKickoffribs.jpg
The Pork I thought was ok when we did it - after being awake for about 36 hours - now...in retrospect and with a little more sleep... not so much.
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/southernhomeboy/2010CookoffKickoffPork.jpg
Brisket got us straight 9's on appearance. It must have been the same judges who recognized the horror and wanted to give us a break.
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/southernhomeboy/2010CookoffKickoffBrisket.jpg

I think we'll curl up in a fetal position and hide over the summer.

Smoke'n Ice
04-26-2010, 06:08 PM
Can I suggest a mentor. The charred remains would be a turn-off for most judges, and the presentation leaves something to be desired. Get someone to show you how to put together a box and either lose the wood or foil the meat.

PM me and I will be more than happy to discuss some of the issues I see. If you wish, I can call you and talk as that is cheap.

vexter1
04-26-2010, 06:14 PM
Hang right in there - take a look around and look at other teams' boxes on here and other forums. Keep trying, improve, improvise, adapt and overcome (or something like that..LOL)

Appearance does count - but from I can gather - it's the other 2 you really want to focus on. Best of luck on your next go 'round!

Jorge
04-26-2010, 06:15 PM
The pics look dark, was that the lighting? If not...I'd say that you are cooking too hot, with too much sugar and too hot, wet/green wood, or don't have a clean/efficient fire going. Address those issues and you are on track, based on the pics. The boxes need some work but if you are putting a quality product in the box that's an easy fix.

The most important question is....Did you have a good time, and do you want to do it again?:becky:

stlgreg
04-26-2010, 06:19 PM
The pics look dark, was that the lighting? If not...I'd say that you are cooking too hot, with too much sugar and too hot, wet/green wood, or don't have a clean/efficient fire going. Address those issues and you are on track, based on the pics. The boxes need some work but if you are putting a quality product in the box that's an easy fix.

The most important question is....Did you have a good time, and do you want to do it again?:becky:

It could have been the lighting the clouds were moving in right before the tornado.

I can tell you the chicken didnt taste bad. I was working the leftover table and there was only one box that came back with that type of chicken
I wasnt in score mode and i dont know how much i really remember but i would have given it an 8 or perhaps a high 7.

smokin joe's and son
04-26-2010, 06:44 PM
Jason, it was great being your neighbor, and appreciated the southern hospitality. Thanks for the sample of rub, I will try it on some home cooking soon. Don't be discouraged, we all have had bad days. The best part about having a bbq passion is that there is allways next weekend.

Three porks
04-26-2010, 08:14 PM
Jason is was nice meeting you at the comp. I tried your stuff and thought it tasted great. Don't let this comp discourage you guys. Maybe I'll see you next year....I'm planning on being at the same spot..

Jon

Lion Bout The Q
04-26-2010, 08:49 PM
I didn't get around to see many people at hazelwood...I guess I was concentrating on producing crappy ribs and pork.. are you headed to Steeleville? We will be there. My first rule anymore is make sure you get some sleep...I never turn in good product when I have been up that long..
We all have bad comps..just improve your game a little each time...

Southern Home Boy
04-26-2010, 08:55 PM
I didn't get around to see many people at hazelwood...I guess I was concentrating on producing crappy ribs and pork.. are you headed to Steeleville? We will be there. My first rule anymore is make sure you get some sleep...I never turn in good product when I have been up that long..
We all have bad comps..just improve your game a little each time...
No. Unfortunately, we won't be doing any more comps until September. My partners' are headed back to Charlotte and Iowa and I'm not up to doing one solo, soooo...

That being said, I think I'll practice more at home during really crappy weather and see what I need to do to keep my temps controlled when the Cloud People want to dance a little.

stlgreg
04-26-2010, 09:19 PM
Jason, it was great being your neighbor, and appreciated the southern hospitality. Thanks for the sample of rub, I will try it on some home cooking soon. Don't be discouraged, we all have had bad days. The best part about having a bbq passion is that there is allways next weekend.

Hey Joe! Welcome to the brethren!

stlgreg
04-26-2010, 09:20 PM
Jason is was nice meeting you at the comp. I tried your stuff and thought it tasted great. Don't let this comp discourage you guys. Maybe I'll see you next year....I'm planning on being at the same spot..

Jon


We would be glad to have you. Did I really see you leaving Sunday at 2?

Southern Home Boy
04-26-2010, 09:28 PM
We would be glad to have you. Did I really see you leaving Sunday at 2?
No sir. We packed up between the last turn-in and the awards. We were on the road right after the MallCop suggested we wait a few minutes for the tornado to go away.

Southern Home Boy
04-26-2010, 09:39 PM
Jason, it was great being your neighbor, and appreciated the southern hospitality. Thanks for the sample of rub, I will try it on some home cooking soon. Don't be discouraged, we all have had bad days. The best part about having a bbq passion is that there is allways next weekend.

Hey Joe... Sorry for my whiny post. You and your son did GREAT! It was good to be your neighbor. I'm going to have to see if I can get one of those salvage drums from work like you. Thinking of trying aerogel as the insulator though instead of mineral wool. A LOT lighter.

If I can find enough Pyrogel XT, I may just line the inside of a regular barrel and see how that works.

stlgreg
04-26-2010, 09:59 PM
i have a drum in the garage. but you will have to cut the top off.

CajunSmoker
04-26-2010, 10:06 PM
everybody gets their azz kicked sometime, you just have to suck it up and try to determine what went wrong and fix it:doh:

I bet you do better next go around:thumb:

smokin joe's and son
04-26-2010, 10:13 PM
Greg, thanks. Really nice comp, except for the rain, wind, and tornado warning, but we all survived in tack. You and Beth really did a great job, the both of you deserve a pat on the back and a day off. I can't wait till next year. Talk to you soon. Joe

bbq ron
04-27-2010, 05:45 AM
Jason, it was great being your neighbor, and appreciated the southern hospitality. Thanks for the sample of rub, I will try it on some home cooking soon. Don't be discouraged, we all have had bad days. The best part about having a bbq passion is that there is allways next weekend.
same here Jason, glad to meet you and other brothers that were there. i didn't get much of a chance to get around. guess i was nerves about this being my first comp. just glad i got everything turned in on time. that all i wanted. i will be there next year for i had a great time.
hope to see you there next year
Ron :-P:-P

pop's smokin hot que
04-27-2010, 06:05 AM
I judged at Hazelwood:bow: I didn't see any of your entries. I can tell you this, entries were all over the place. There was raw chicken, ribs without bones etc. As an ex-competitor I understand your feelings because I have been there. Don't quit, go to a good class.:clap2: Wish you could see the winning entries compared to yours. The judges worked very hard and fully realized the conditions you were working under. Every competitor has been where you are. Look at it this way you have only one way to go UP:doh:

bbq ron
04-27-2010, 06:19 AM
Jason is was nice meeting you at the comp. I tried your stuff and thought it tasted great. Don't let this comp discourage you guys. Maybe I'll see you next year....I'm planning on being at the same spot..

Jon
hey Jon, don't think i got to meet you but we were right across the road from you and southern home boys. maybe next year
thx
Ron :-P:-P

Lion Bout The Q
04-27-2010, 07:00 AM
No sir. We packed up between the last turn-in and the awards. We were on the road right after the MallCop suggested we wait a few minutes for the tornado to go away.
I thought that was a tornado siren I heard as we were pulling out of the parking lot..As soon as we turned north on 79 it was dry as a bone..

bbq ron
04-27-2010, 07:09 AM
I thought that was a tornado siren I heard as we were pulling out of the parking lot..As soon as we turned north on 79 it was dry as a bone..
same here, in st peters it also was dry and sun was out. go figure :-P:-P

CritterCook
04-27-2010, 07:31 AM
I haven't seen the comp results posted anywhere. Did I miss them?
Love to see how some of my buddies did. Was everyone hiding in Yorks trailer during the tornado? It would take a helluva funnel cloud to move that sucker!!

musicmanryann
04-27-2010, 08:48 AM
I haven't seen the comp results posted anywhere. Did I miss them?
Love to see how some of my buddies did. Was everyone hiding in Yorks trailer during the tornado? It would take a helluva funnel cloud to move that sucker!!

http://www.kcbs.us/events.php?year=2010&month=4&id=2020

:-D

Rick's Pit Stop
04-27-2010, 09:06 AM
We couldn't cook this one due to it also being our daughters prom weekend, but I couldn't not stop by and say hi and wish our friends good luck. Plus, I had offered to run boxes for Blues Hog Bill. Trav and I were there for about five hours, right up to the awards show, then we got our soaked butts outta there. Had I know the trip home was going to be so eventful we might've stayed. It was like the tornado warnings were following us. We got to 270/367 and all heck was breaking loose! 270 was being siphoned down to one, maybe two lanes, the ramp to 367 north was closed and emergency vehicles were everywhere! It's like someone didn't want us to get home in time to see "Sissy" in her prom dress. We did an alternate route and everytime we hit a new township, village, whatever, the tornado warnings would go off. You would've thought the tornado (did we even have one?) was in the bed of my truck. Luckily through all of that we were fortunate enough to get home 10 minutes before she had to leave. :thumb:

Anyways, I really enjoyed being able to go around and saying hi to everyone and wishing them luck. Something I don't normally get to do when I'm in "comp mode". Congrats to all who got calls and to the Reserve and Grand champs. You guys done good! See y'all down the road somewhere real soon.

Rick and Trav

Southern Home Boy
04-27-2010, 11:00 AM
i have a drum in the garage. but you will have to cut the top off.
Thanks Greg. I work for a chemical manufacturer. Drums are not an issue for me.:wink:

Smokin' Joe has an awesome insulated UDS that I was drooling over at the comp. 55 Gal. inside an 85 Gal. insulated with Mineral Wool in between. Heavy sucker but NICE.

Q-Stream
04-27-2010, 12:36 PM
I hope you don't get too discouraged, I judged there and saw (tasted) lots of good product turned in. There is always a little room for improvement, but the competition at Hazelwood was tough.

Lion Bout The Q
04-27-2010, 02:08 PM
We couldn't cook this one due to it also being our daughters prom weekend, but I couldn't not stop by and say hi and wish our friends good luck

I see how you are Rick....I dont remember seeing you :roll:

Rick's Pit Stop
04-27-2010, 04:16 PM
Hey man, I came by to see ya but you were busy staying high and dry in the mall while your boys were doing all the packing! :rain:

Rick

Lion Bout The Q
04-27-2010, 07:54 PM
Hey man, I came by to see ya but you were busy staying high and dry in the mall while your boys were doing all the packing! :rain:

Rick
Hmmm:doh:, that may be right...but it wasn't like I had it easy..I was packing all the crap out that my family bought in the mall... They tried to spur on Hazelwoods economy all by themselves.

paydabill
04-27-2010, 09:05 PM
Dude - my 3 event - my brother and I went DAL - then 3 weeks latter we fot 8th overall. Hang in there.

If you want to come up we are cooking in Columbian May 7th and 8th. If you are interested.

Southern Home Boy
04-28-2010, 01:46 PM
Thanks for the invite Paydabill, but I'll have to pass. 7th and 8th are big softball games for my girls, so we're pretty booked.

Besides, my wife and I just road-tripped to Columbia for an adult "hooky day" on Monday to have a little Shakespere's Pizza.:thumb:

Southern Home Boy
04-28-2010, 01:50 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Brothers. I needed it.

Here's my "Clean-up Crew" and me before the rain really settled in:
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/southernhomeboy/2010CookOffKickOff.jpg

Que It Up
04-28-2010, 03:47 PM
Hang in there and dare I say....bone up for the next comp! And thanks Rick for stopping by to say hey. You should have seen the arm load Peter came back with...needless to say he was too sore to help load out.:help:

paydabill
04-28-2010, 10:01 PM
Tell the girls good luck - and keep the head up - doing SHakespeere tommorow - I love working 4 blocks away from one.

Lion Bout The Q
04-28-2010, 10:06 PM
Hang in there and dare I say....bone up for the next comp! And thanks Rick for stopping by to say hey. You should have seen the arm load Peter came back with...needless to say he was too sore to help load out.:help:
I did wash dishes when I got back :confused:

Que It Up
04-29-2010, 03:46 PM
I did wash dishes when I got back :confused:
you are right

beam boys bbq
04-29-2010, 04:13 PM
Shakespere's Pizza:clap2:

having the same problems don't know what is going on but we just keep going an long keeep your head up:thumb: