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Stoke&Smoke
04-26-2010, 01:54 PM
Not quite under 30 days so no roll call:rolleyes:

Just go our packet for this one. Something new afoot. Apparently, the Westmont comp will be one of 9 this summer across the country. The judge packet says, if you indicate you're cooking in the Ranchers Reserve cup, you will get a 10-15 lb. brisket complements of Ranchers Reserve Beef.

Anyone heard of this before?

I emailed Jim and Chris, the organizers for more info.

Ron_L
04-26-2010, 02:01 PM
Do I have to use the same brisket for all 9 competitions? :becky:

Brew-B-Q
04-26-2010, 03:18 PM
I saw that too. Any idea where the other contests are?

Scottie
04-26-2010, 03:29 PM
I believe one was Stagecoach? The otrher for sure is DC...

They have been working on this for a while now Dann. They had asked me if I thought teams would be interested. I said to put a carrot out there and let the teams decide... I hope other teams do it. It's stuff like this that makes or breaks contests...

There are a few other different things that are going on this year. But I don't think they are ready to release that info yet... Our next committee meeting is 5/3...

Divemaster
04-29-2010, 08:15 AM
Something new afoot. Apparently, the Westmont comp will be one of 9 this summer across the country. The judge packet says, if you indicate you're cooking in the Ranchers Reserve cup, you will get a 10-15 lb. brisket complements of Ranchers Reserve Beef.
Can some one fill me in on the Ranchers Reserve? I've re-read the packet a couple of times and maybe I'm missing something but I'm just not getting it.... If we say yes, are we only allowed to cook the one brisket? I mean I like the idea of extra cash but not with a product I've never used that could cost me overall...:confused:

Brew-B-Q
04-29-2010, 08:50 AM
I plan to cook the ranchers reserve brisket, along with my other briskets, and turn in the rancher's reserve.

Divemaster
04-29-2010, 09:28 AM
I plan to cook the ranchers reserve brisket, along with my other briskets, and turn in the rancher's reserve.
If all you are going to turn in is the Rancher's Reserve, why cook the others?

I Guess that's my point, is the RR Brisket the only one we are allowed to turn in?

Scottie
04-29-2010, 09:34 AM
If you want to be in the Rancher's Reserve contest you cook and turn in their brisket. Jim will be passing them out on Saturday morning. The lack of rules is not really in the organizers lap on this. It's the lack of rules from Rancher's Reserve or KCBS whomever makes them.

Brew-B-Q
04-29-2010, 09:48 AM
If all you are going to turn in is the Rancher's Reserve, why cook the others?

I was joking.

Divemaster
04-29-2010, 09:49 AM
If you want to be in the Rancher's Reserve contest you cook and turn in their brisket. Jim will be passing them out on Saturday morning. The lack of rules is not really in the organizers lap on this. It's the lack of rules from Rancher's Reserve or KCBS whomever makes them.
If that is the case, I think we'll more than likely pass on the Ranchers Reserve. Being able to only do one brisket, let alone one that I don't get to pick, and from a supplier that I've never used before is more of a risk than I'm willing to take.

Please don't get me wrong, again, I'm all for more money at the end of a walk, but to risk the overall for an unknown amount just doesn't seem worth it for me...

Ron_L
04-29-2010, 10:32 AM
I guess I need to know what e actually get before I can decide. The letter says "10-15 pounds of brisket". It doesn't say if that is one 10-15 lb. packer, two 5-7.5 lb flats, three 4 lb. flats, etc. Unless they can tell me up front what I will receive, I can even consider it. Like Dive, I'm all for extra cash, but not if it jeopardizes my shot as the GC.

billm
04-29-2010, 10:36 AM
If all you are going to turn in is the Rancher's Reserve, why cook the others?

I Guess that's my point, is the RR Brisket the only one we are allowed to turn in?
and how would they know its RR being turned in if you did cook others along with it ?

Divemaster
04-29-2010, 10:43 AM
If all you are going to turn in is the Rancher's Reserve, why cook the others?

I Guess that's my point, is the RR Brisket the only one we are allowed to turn in?

and how would they know its RR being turned in if you did cook others along with it ?
What you have to do is mark it with a brand that goes across all of the slices and that brand has to have your team name on it... I don't think KCBS would have any issues would they?:confused:

(I'm just kidding and now running for cover!!!!)

Scottie
04-29-2010, 11:05 AM
and how would they know its RR being turned in if you did cook others along with it ?


They could tag it... Then have a brisket police come to see you do your turn in.... Of course, I do not know any of that info first hand...

I also asked for my briskets now, so I could start aging them...

Divemaster
04-29-2010, 11:25 AM
Why not just have them send them to all the teams in the mail... At least every one would have the same chance... Your's should be sent via New Mexico so you have the same chances as every one else since you live close by....

Stoke&Smoke
04-29-2010, 06:15 PM
I think Jim said it's pretty much the honor system. I was going to bring a back up, just in case I don't like the looks of what they give me. It might DQ you from the ranchers reserve piece, but not the KCBS.

If I don't use my back up, it'll stay in the cryo and go in the freezer for next time.

I would think though, that if they want folks to use it, they would be giving out decent briskets. It wouldn't be the best advertising for them if none of theirs placed, would it?

Stoke&Smoke
05-04-2010, 06:01 PM
KCBS now has the rules and details for the Ranchers Reserve Cup events on thier website here. http://kcbs.us/beefcuppoints

You may have to log in as a member before the link works

I think it's worth a shot!

Ron_L
05-04-2010, 08:21 PM
Thanks, Dann...

I sure hope that the date for Westmont is wrong in the Ranchers Reserve info! if not, we're going to have to finish up at the Dells and hightail it down to Westmont! :-D

Brew-B-Q
05-05-2010, 09:20 AM
So do you think it is legal to cook one of my own briskets, along with the ranchers reserve, and turn in whatever is best? Or do you need to commit upfront that you will turn in the ranchers reserve brisket. The way I cook, I'm lucky to get one of the two to turn out. I'd be pretty concerned only cooking one brisket, especially a brand/grade I've never used.

Divemaster
05-05-2010, 12:38 PM
So do you think it is legal to cook one of my own briskets, along with the ranchers reserve, and turn in whatever is best? Or do you need to commit upfront that you will turn in the ranchers reserve brisket. The way I cook, I'm lucky to get one of the two to turn out. I'd be pretty concerned only cooking one brisket, especially a brand/grade I've never used.

Sounds familiar...
If you want to be in the Rancher's Reserve contest you cook and turn in their brisket. Jim will be passing them out on Saturday morning. The lack of rules is not really in the organizers lap on this. It's the lack of rules from Rancher's Reserve or KCBS whomever makes them.

If that is the case, I think we'll more than likely pass on the Ranchers Reserve. Being able to only do one brisket, let alone one that I don't get to pick, and from a supplier that I've never used before is more of a risk than I'm willing to take.

Please don't get me wrong, again, I'm all for more money at the end of a walk, but to risk the overall for an unknown amount just doesn't seem worth it for me...

Stoke&Smoke
05-05-2010, 04:07 PM
I'm planning on bringing an extra, just in case something goes awry and I don't get a Ranchers. I'll keep the backup in the cryo until I have the Ranchers in hand, then return it (the backup) home to the freezer. We're only 10 or 15 minutes away, so that should be no problem.

I just don't want to get there and find out the Ranchers truck broke down, and have to be scrambling. Only other thing that bugs me a bit is not knowing what the grade of meat is. They advertise it as "100% Tender and 100% beef (I would hope so) but no mention of grade

Guess I'll take the gamble.

Interesting though, on their site, they list the first "winner" http://kcbs.us/rancherspoints.php?id=5 as from the Stagecoach Music Festival BArbecue Cookoff, in Indio, CA, and list the team as "All Sauced Up" and include a photo. But I don't see that team on the results list of the contest anywhere.:confused:

Scottie
05-05-2010, 07:20 PM
All Sauced Up was Lottabull Bull West. If you aren't on the West Coast, you aren't winning it though.

Stoke&Smoke
05-05-2010, 10:43 PM
Ahhh....that makes sense....wondered who that was when I saw it.

I know that it's unlikely to win the whole thing being as this is the only one of the 9 we'll do....but the possibility of a little extra scratch is tempting! We got a couple briskie calls last year:pray:

Just happy to see the season start for us.

It'll be interesting to see how many take part here

Brew-B-Q
05-06-2010, 07:12 AM
Well, if they have a similar group of judges as last year....just cook your brisket so it's overcooked at 6am, stick it in a cooler hoping it stays together, and turn it in. Worked for me last year. :rolleyes:

Scottie
05-06-2010, 08:39 AM
Expect to see a few new judges. Fine with me. Damn contest... they hate my food. Don't know what idiot had a hand in getting the contest going... He needs to get better judges! ;)

Jorge
05-06-2010, 08:51 AM
Expect to see a few new judges. Fine with me. Damn contest... they hate my food. Don't know what idiot had a hand in getting the contest going... He needs to get better judges! ;)

Or he could send Dr. Porkenstein on a cruise......:-P

Scottie
05-06-2010, 01:41 PM
Or he could send Dr. Porkenstein on a cruise......:-P


I did one better. I shipped him off to Louisiana... You can get lost for years down in those swamps... :thumb: I think now all I have to do is get rid of those other 20 teams that finished ahead of me, Quau and the Reverend...