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jonboy
04-16-2010, 06:32 AM
Good morning,
What type of fire extinguisher are being used or mandated at comps?
Will a ABC work, or do i need a commercial rated ABC or other?
Thanks for any help,
jon

Heavenly Hog
04-16-2010, 07:17 AM
Any small 5lb extinguisher. I have one on-hand, but they're never checked for at comps.

Smokin' Gnome BBQ
04-16-2010, 07:30 AM
I take 2x 5 pounders, and I have had them checked to ensure they were full. I saw a team whos charge was low and they made them get another one.

Sal

RubMeTender
04-16-2010, 07:37 AM
You might want to check to make sure each contest has the same requirement. KCBS might have a different requirement than FBA for example.

Your best bet is to just hire a local fire department to hang out at your site........:flypig:

GWA
04-16-2010, 07:56 AM
Class K extinguishers were approved as a class somewhere about 1997 or 98. They were targeted almost exclusively for commercial kitchens because of the changes of cooking styles to different types of fats and fat content.

Halon is also very much used in commercial kitchens, but expensive to recharge.

But considering all (like price $$$)...I'd advise EVERYONE to buy and use Dry Chem (class B) extinguishers. Once I worked with and saw how superior they were to all other methods in putting out diesel fuel and jet fuel fires in a training pit, there was NO QUESTION in my mind.

PCDoctor_1979
04-16-2010, 07:59 AM
From the 2010 KCBS Rules: "Contestants shall provide all needed equipment, supplies
and electricity, except as arranged for in advance. Contestants must adhere to all electrical, fire and other codes. A fire extinguisher shall be near all cooking devices." So there's really no guidance from KCBS about size and type of extinguisher. You should check with the Contest Organizer to see if the local FD has any special requirements.

daedalus
04-16-2010, 08:33 AM
Class K extinguishers were approved as a class somewhere about 1997 or 98. They were targeted almost exclusively for commercial kitchens because of the changes of cooking styles to different types of fats and fat content.

Halon is also very much used in commercial kitchens, but expensive to recharge.

But considering all (like price $$$)...I'd advise EVERYONE to buy and use Dry Chem (class B) extinguishers. Once I worked with and saw how superior they were to all other methods in putting out diesel fuel and jet fuel fires in a training pit, there was NO QUESTION in my mind.

You use JET FUEL for your BBQ!?!?!?!:shock: You must be able to cook a brisket in like 5 minutes.:twisted:

G$
04-16-2010, 09:12 AM
Any small 5lb extinguisher. I have one on-hand, but they're never checked for at comps.

Careful. Ours are checked probably over half the time.

Last comp, the fire marshall came through all the sites and made us move a propane tank 16 inches for 'safety'.

GWA
04-16-2010, 09:14 AM
You use JET FUEL for your BBQ!?!?!?!:shock: You must be able to cook a brisket in like 5 minutes.:twisted:

Using jet fuel you don't get a bark, you get a ROAR !!! :shocked:

Scottie
04-16-2010, 09:31 AM
I've been to plenty of contests that check your fire extinguishers. I've been to them where the cooks were not warned and the fire marshall came through. If you didn't have a up to date one, with tags and/or a receipt that had to be 5 pound variety. You had to run to the store. Fortunately, I have one and get it re-tagged every year. but if you were in a rv like me, what would you do?

Better off having one. I also carry a CO2 one that I would only use in my smokers. It's not tagged because it costs too much. But those other one's are just for show for the marshall. My real one I keep in the rv. No need to ruin a perfectly good smoker blasting it with the wrong chemical fire extinguisher.

jonboy
04-16-2010, 11:51 AM
No need to ruin a perfectly good smoker blasting it with the wrong chemical fire extinguisher.

What would be your recommendation on type of extinguishers available?
Will wally world have them or do i need something else?
I have a couple of old extinguishers but they are out of charge and rated for wood.- A

The bigger one is sentry ss 2 1/2 b model but a rating.
Thanks for the help
I am trying to get organized for a practice cook soon and possibly a comp later this year. Pending funding.
jon

Scottie
04-16-2010, 12:54 PM
Get a ABC fire extinguisher. I'd recommend getting a 5 pound one. While some contests accept one of those smaller 2 1/2# Sentry's. Most will require a 5# one for the length of the blast. They want to make sure fires are out.. I believe that Home Depot's have the larger one's. Keep your receipt for it. That will show that it is up-to-date. I found out that those big box stores like to buy them and hold them. Mine was over 1 year old when I bought mine from the stamp on the bottom of it.

beardjp
04-16-2010, 10:09 PM
As a firefighter and one of those fellows that might inspect you. I would agree with Scotty, a 5lbs ABC all purpose fire extinguisher is your best bet, and easiest to find. Another one would be a class A pressurized water extinguisher. They can be filled with water and pressuized with any air compressor. Those are the big silver ones you see hanging in schools. They are hard to find, and they can be expensive.

Rookie'48
04-17-2010, 12:14 AM
I'm not real sure that presurized water is the way to go on a grease fire, especially if you have electricity (Guru, Traeger, FEC, etc.) involved.

Sticks-n-chicks
04-17-2010, 05:39 AM
Water and grease = BIG fire

Buster Dog BBQ
04-17-2010, 07:33 AM
I had two comps last year where I was asked to show it. Luckily I carry one in the trailer but was never warned about having one. In small towns contest you might be put of luck finding one.

Quigley
04-17-2010, 08:47 AM
I like a CO2 extinguisher. You can put the nozzle into the smoke stack and squeeze This way you do not have an incredible mess to clean up. just dont open up the pit to soon or you will place all the O2 that you just displaced.

BBQ_Mayor
04-17-2010, 09:17 AM
I had two comps last year where I was asked to show it. Luckily I carry one in the trailer but was never warned about having one. In small towns contest you might be put of luck finding one.

You had to show it at 2 contests last year.:shocked:.. i'm glad I didn't see that..

I remember 1 contest we had to have 1 extinguisher for the camper and 1 for outside by the cooker. Luckily we had 2 of them.

stlgreg
04-17-2010, 11:06 AM
I can guaranttee the fire marshal will come through at my contest to check fire extinguishers. he is strict but nice.

Sawdustguy
04-18-2010, 05:22 AM
Halon is also very much used in commercial kitchens, but expensive to recharge.

They would also be next to useless if used outdoors. They are also dangerous. Get a breath of halon and it's lights out as it will displace the oxygen in your lungs.

The Pigman
04-18-2010, 07:22 AM
Well we have not been checked but carry 2- 5 lb ones. I even have a 12 by 14 ezup that I put over my Lang and never had anyone say anything about that.

River City Smokehouse
04-18-2010, 08:57 AM
I've never found the need for a fire extinguisher.:crazy::doh:

The_Kapn
04-21-2010, 05:38 PM
Last year we were "inspected" twice for tagged fire extinguishers.

One was "loose" and we were told to get one for next year.
I was ready for the second one which was a bit more serious.

We have a 5 ABC I bought new and had inspected and tagged.
In late June, I will have it inspected again.

I just don't need the hassle of dealing with it at a comp.

I really feel that the FD's are going to get more involved as time passes.

TIM

bam
04-21-2010, 07:12 PM
Paul got caught on bbq pitmasters with less than a 5 lb unit. Was at a comp this weekend they never asked.

DCFIREMANN
04-21-2010, 07:13 PM
I carry 3 one in the camper which is a 2.5lb ABC. Number 2 is a 10 lb ABC and is the one I would think would be your best bet. It is not a throw away unit and can be recharged by a pro. You can get them at Home Depot for about 65.00. My number 3 unit is a 10lb CO2. We have had this unit for a few years now but unlike your typical ABC these have no gauge and must be INSPECTED AND RECHARGED every other year unless it has been used.

Halon would be great but the cost is tooooo high!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Finney
04-21-2010, 08:53 PM
5 lbs ABC is what most comps require (if they specify).

BTW: Buy a "Kidde" brand... I needz my job. LOL

The Pickled Pig
04-22-2010, 12:23 AM
Out of more than 100 contests, we've only been checked twice. One time we had the 5LB ABC on us and the second time we had to go buy one. The problem is that in small town, 4 or 5 teams hit the hardware store and they are out. One secret (fire marshall's and department personnel stop reading here) is to borrow a unit that has already been inspected from another team. We were at a contest once where the same extinguisher must have been passed to 20+ teams.

I've also had to go buy 1/4" fire screen to put over the exhaust of my pit before too. Like the vigilante health departments in some communities, the FD stuff can get ridiculous. Has there ever been an uncontrollable fire or a fire related injury that would have been prevented with a fire extinguisher at a BBQ contest? Don't get me wrong, I've seen lots of fires at contests but never seen an extinguisher requirement save the day. And I'm certainly not opposed to prudent fire safety, just the fire nazis.

Alexa RnQ
04-22-2010, 10:09 AM
In the Southwestern states, fire inspections are frequent and sometimes rigorous. We've seen grease fires and cooker explosions, and most often fires are the result of members of the public throwing trash into the (marked) hot-ash cans. It's nice to have an extinguisher on hand, although we haven't had to use it.

deena
04-27-2010, 03:22 PM
PNWBA requires them in our rules and we do checks when we the meat inspection. Many of our fire marshals will shut down the cook if they don't have the right one and that it is new or inspected within the last 12 months.