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bigabyte
04-07-2010, 08:29 PM
100% of the profits from sales of the BBQ Brethren Throwdown Calendar will be used to fund prizes for the Throwdowns!
:becky: :thumb: :clap: :whoo: :bow: :clap2: :dancer: :peace: :welcome: :rockon:

You heard it right, PRIZES!

So what does this mean? When will there be prizes? What kinds of prizes? Why are there profits? Can I order a calendar right now? Do I get a prize for reading this?

ALL OF YOUR ANSWERS ARE BELOW!!!

First off, if you are asking yourself, "What calendar?", then please go here...
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81731

Beginning in June 2010, I will tally up the profits to date from the Calendar sales, and divide that by 52 (the number of Throwdowns in a year). I will round this DOWN to a nearby whole dollar amount. This will determine the value of the prize available for each of the next 52 Throwdowns (a years worth). Any profits from sales after that time will be reserved for the next year. I am hopeful that next year we will have another calendar, and sales from that calendar through next June plus any remaining funds from this year will result in the prize budget for next year. Also, the money left over after determining the prize value for the 52 Throwdowns will be reserved for the winner of next years cover shot on the next Calendar (I am hopeful there will be another one next year).

Why are there profits from these calendar sales? Why not sell the calendar at cost as Mr. Bigabyte himself originally stated he wanted to do? This has everything to do with the complexities in getting this calendar to you. Keep in mind that a certain Santa Gnome graciously offered to print and do the footwork to get these out the door for shipping to you for FREE, but only if they were reimbursed for the shipping costs they incurred by doing this. Shipping is NOT a flat rate to anywhere in the world, and for that matter are not really very similar at all when you consider that not all Brethren are in the continental United States. Since Santa Gnome already donated so much at this point (free printing and offering to take them to the post office and ship to you at no profit), it was not at all reasonable to expect them to take every single order to the Post Office beforehand to calculate shipping for each and every order to negotiate with each customer an exact price on each and every order. This is just not that complex of an operation here folks, we don't have that much time to spend with you on taking these orders. We're just two people, volunteering our free time to make this work, free time we could be spending with friends, family, BBQ, anything except getting you these calendars. But we are so excited about these calendars we choose to spend our time doing this for you.

So, what we needed was a flat rate to charge for the calendars that would cover any unusually high shipping costs, so that our gracious "volunteers" did not have to pay out of their own pockets to get you these calendars. I personally felt that offering a slightly elevated calendar cost estimated using some formula derived of percentage of overseas Brethren basically amounted to a tax, or penalty to those who DO live in the continental US, which to me seemed unfair. So I chose not to do that.

What I decided to do was charge what a FOR PROFIT organization would charge for these calendars, and take in a profit. This would definitely cover any high shipping costs, plus allow a profit, leaving me to determine how this profit money could come back and benefit the Brethren. This is why the calendars are $10.

When I talked with Phil about this, he told me to either take the money and use it for prizes, or use it to take a vacation in Hawaii. He didn't want the money for the site. I would really like to go to Hawaii someday, but I'm not going to do that with this money.

I don't know what kinds of prizes will be available at this point, or what their value will be. All of that will really depend on how sales of the calendar go through the end of May. Once I get a dollar amount firmed up for the value of the prizes, I can start looking at what can be arranged. To me, gift cards or e-certificates seem most reasonable, but at this time it's too early to firm anything up.

I will NOT incur any personal costs to cover shipping or other associated costs in getting a prize to you. Those costs will need to either be a pre-included part of the prize package value, or paid for by the winner to ensure they get it. You can be assured I will do my best to account for these added costs ahead of time so you will not have to deal with it, and simply receive a prize as expected. Things can come up though, so that is why I bring this up.

I will provide to the Brethren an accounting of the orders placed, ordering and shipping costs, and profit from the orders. This will allow for transparency for anyone who thinks I am out to get them or take their money, which I assure you I am not. All of this will be public info just to avoid some crazy accusing me of thievery or something crazy like that. If someone wants to go there, I can assure you my anger at having my purely charitable intentions abused in such a manner will be noticed by you in some way, somehow. So let's just not go there, ok?

So if you are interested in the concept of prizes for Throwdowns, and have not yet placed an order for one or more (I'm certain they will make excellent gifts for your BBQ friends), please feel free to order and support the cause by clicking this link for more information about ordering.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81731

Remember, the more orders, the more profits, the better the prizes.

Thank you and have a nice day.

BBQchef33
04-07-2010, 09:00 PM
chit.. and I was hoping you would take me to hawaii with you.

For the record, anyone trying this:

If someone wants to go there, I can assure you my anger at having my purely charitable intentions abused in such a manner will be noticed by you in some way, somehow. So let's just not go there, ok?

Has no worries as they will never see bigabytes anger, due to the permanent redirect to this website (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8944593621082294411#) placed on your ID. :thumb:

N8man
04-07-2010, 09:09 PM
OutStanding!!!!

bigabyte
04-07-2010, 09:11 PM
chit.. and I was hoping you would take me to hawaii with you.
I know...I was planning on getting lei'd and everything.
For the record, anyone trying this...Has no worries as they will never see bigabytes anger, due to the permanent redirect to this website (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8944593621082294411#) placed on your ID. :thumb:
Oh fark me! That is farking HILARIOUS! Chit, that is giving me a farking giggle-fit just thinking about it.:clap2:

CajunSmoker
04-07-2010, 09:23 PM
was there a "terms and conditions" box I was supposed to sign:confused: Just askin:-P

bigabyte
04-07-2010, 09:25 PM
Yeah, my terms, and under no conditions will I listen to any bitching about it. No signature necessary, that's just how it is. So there.:laugh:

N8man
04-07-2010, 09:38 PM
chit.. and I was hoping you would take me to hawaii with you.

I know...I was planning on getting lei'd and everything.

You two Do make a Lovely Couple...:wink:

CajunSmoker
04-07-2010, 09:55 PM
Yeah, my terms, and under no conditions will I listen to any bitching about it. No signature necessary, that's just how it is. So there.:laugh:


Sounds like some right wing bullchit to me:boxing: Is Glenn Beck involved in this:mad2: at least it has to be O'Reilly:roll:

CajunSmoker
04-07-2010, 09:56 PM
goin to my room now:heh:

Rick's Tropical Delight
04-07-2010, 10:01 PM
it'll never be the same

bigabyte
04-07-2010, 10:58 PM
Sounds like some right wing bullchit to me:boxing: Is Glenn Beck involved in this:mad2: at least it has to be O'Reilly:roll:
This is the fruition of Karl Rove's long thought out master plan.
goin to my room now:heh:
Don't look outside the windows.
it'll never be the same
Not too much different really than it is now. Competition may get more fierce. People may complain a bit more, but it will still be, and will always be about posting pics of food you cook according to the category at hand, with the voters deciding who they think should win. One thing I will NEVER do, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER...is make rules on how things should be judged. The voters decide the winner and that is that, will always be that way.

Gore
04-07-2010, 11:22 PM
Chris, while I don't really agree with Rick, I personally think this is asinine. I have done a number of "charitable acts" that at times have taken hundreds of hours of my time. In some instances these acts have required me to collect funds and disperse some goods. In all cases I have done my darnedest not to make a profit, but to make sure my monetary expenses were covered. The most annoying person is the one who asks for, demands rather, to see some accounting of my expenses further adding to my efforts to ensure that I have not accidentally compensated myself one penny for the hundreds of hours that I have volunteered for this effort. I know that you and Santa Squirrel and Gnarly Gnome have put in MANY hours to do a service for us and provide us with a product out of the goodness of your hearts. I would be surprised if the "profits" on these calendars would pay you 1/100 of minimum wage and probably would not pay for the taxi ride to and from the airport to catch your plane to Hawaii. You do this from the heart. But as a fiscal conservative (right-wing BBQ libertarian nut), I have no problem with people being compensated for their efforts. What you propose to do here is to take money from those who work hard to produce a decent product that people may actually want, yourselves actually, and to disperse it to those who did nothing more than make their dinner -- this stinks of communism to me. I had thought you were a member of the vast right-wing BBQ conspiracy, but I guess you are just another farking left-wing liberal commie pinko tree-huggin' camel-humpin climate-changin terrorist-kissin' Lenin-lovin' Chez-shaggin PETA-partnerin' vegan douchebag liberal. Actually, you are worse, you are a VR-WBBQCINO (vast right-wing BBQ conspiracist in name only) -- and just try to pronounce that -- determined to deceive your fellow brethren while supporting the very policies that will bring our Forum to ruination! :mad2: What will be next? Will we not vote at all on throwdowns because we might hurt someone's feelings? Will we just award everyone a "certificate of merit" who enters the contest? The sad thing is I once looked up to you as a hero, but I now know that your aluminum antenna really do point to the left :cry:

bigabyte
04-07-2010, 11:33 PM
Chris, while I don't really agree with Rick, I personally think this is asinine. I have done a number of "charitable acts" that at times have taken hundreds of hours of my time. In some instances these acts have required me to collect funds and disperse some goods. In all cases I have done my darnedest not to make a profit, but to make sure my monetary expenses were covered. The most annoying person is the one who asks for, demands rather, to see some accounting of my expenses further adding to my efforts to ensure that I have not accidentally compensated myself one penny for the hundreds of hours that I have volunteered for this effort. I know that you and Santa Squirrel and Gnarly Gnome have put in MANY hours to do a service for us and provide us with a product out of the goodness of your hearts. I would be surprised if the "profits" on these calendars would pay you 1/100 of minimum wage and probably would not pay for the taxi ride to and from the airport to catch your plane to Hawaii. You do this from the heart. But as a fiscal conservative (right-wing BBQ libertarian nut), I have no problem with people being compensated for their efforts. What you propose to do here is to take money from those who work hard to produce a decent product that people may actually want, yourselves actually, and to disperse it to those who did nothing more than make their dinner -- this stinks of communism to me. I had thought you were a member of the vast right-wing BBQ conspiracy, but I guess you are just another farking left-wing liberal commie pinko tree-huggin' camel-humpin climate-changin terrorist-kissin' Lenin-lovin' Chez-shaggin PETA-partnerin' vegan douchebag liberal. Actually, you are worse, you are a VR-WBBQCINO (vast right-wing BBQ conspiracist in name only) -- and just try to pronounce that -- determined to deceive your fellow brethren while supporting the very policies that will bring our Forum to ruination! :mad2: What will be next? Will we not vote at all on throwdowns because we might hurt someone's feelings? Will we just award everyone a "certificate of merit" who enters the contest? The sad thing is I once looked up to you as a hero, but I now know that your aluminum antenna really do point to the left :cry:
Oh no!:shock: Say it isn't so!:doh:

Checking my hat...is it real foil???

Nobody has asked to see the accounting. So maybe I won't post it, and sneak in that free ride to the airport.:laugh:

Gore
04-07-2010, 11:40 PM
Oh no!:shock: Say it isn't so!:doh:

Checking my hat...is it real foil???

Nobody has asked to see the accounting. So maybe I won't post it, and sneak in that free ride to the airport.:laugh:

The writing is plain to see for everyone who looks. Repent ... or turn in the hat! Uh, what size is that hat anyway?

bigabyte
04-07-2010, 11:55 PM
I guess I better cancel this idea then since we don't want participant awards!:laugh:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc150/bigabyte/t-shirt.jpg

Gore
04-07-2010, 11:58 PM
Ooooo, nice T-shirt. It even has visible fibers! Can it be a zero-club exclusive? I'll buy one if you put the profits toward your taxi ride to the airport!

bigabyte
04-08-2010, 12:05 AM
Hmmm.....I could use the money for my speculative oil fund....Is a t-shirt a zero thing...maybe a hat? Oh no, not another Brethren HAT!:doh:

BBQ Grail
04-08-2010, 12:08 AM
Is this the MOINK Ball certification thread?

bigabyte
04-08-2010, 12:14 AM
I like Larry's shirt model better. Of course, I've always been a boob-man.

Is this thing headed for wood pile? Maybe this post should move over there, and the rest of it stays here?

weconway
04-08-2010, 01:27 AM
This is pretty cool and it may change everything, but not for this backyard cook.

I enter throwdowns for the same reason many others do - I'm a first born and I need the attention.

William

Jeff Selle
04-08-2010, 01:42 AM
You guys rock, man... I also feel that you folks deserve a trip to Hawaii... and I think its great that you care enough about this site to entice participation in this contest. It would motivate me to step it up and participate for sure...

Just my thought on the prizes... how about letting the winner pick an $XX.xx credit at a "brethern-in-good-standing" rub, sauce, hardware retailer of their choice? Might be a little complicated, but it beats an impersonal cash card and really seems to kinda go along with what you folks are doing here...

SmokinAussie
04-08-2010, 04:22 AM
How about we keep the prizes to something like a set of used thermopen batteries, An old rusty baking tray, a half empty bottle of tabasco.... etc..

Let's keep it humble...

timzcardz
04-08-2010, 08:32 AM
Chris,

You have done a heck of a job with the throwdowns, and it has been fun entering into a few, seeing what everybody else has done, and voting regularly.

I hope that the decision to add prizes doesn't degrade the simplicity and the spririt of the throwdowns and detract from the fun. It doesn't take many to start taking this too seriously to kill the fun.

This is yours to do whatever you wish and take this in whatever direction you choose, and I respect that.

I expect that any prizes would be insignificant in value, especially in comparison to the value placed on bragging rights by many, and places another layer or burden upon you and those involved in the process.



With that said, for what it's worth, and IMHO, it would be far more significant, provide a greater sense of contribution, and exemplify the Brethren Spirit, if the "profits" raised from the calendar sales were contributed to a related worthy cause such as Kookers Kare or BBQ For Our Troops.



Good Luck.

Smokey Al Gold
04-08-2010, 09:43 AM
This is a really cool idea and I'm sure I speak for all the Brethren when I say thanks for all the hard work you guys do for us. I really appreciate and enjoy this site. My only problem is I can't win a throwdown :doh:

bigabyte
04-08-2010, 10:14 AM
My only problem is I can't win a throwdown :doh:
I feel your pain. But I have won two Zero's!:becky:

deguerre
04-08-2010, 10:18 AM
Why not make it interesting and keep the profits until the end of the 52 week throwdown period and divvy it up amongst the winners of the next calendar vote?

Smokey Al Gold
04-08-2010, 10:38 AM
Instead of going for 1st place I'm going to compete for last place each time! Let's see who can beat me to be dead last!

BlkJeep
04-08-2010, 11:37 AM
I shall now quit my good job and practice full time to try and win 52 consecutive throwdowns so I can win all the prizes! The one who has the most prizes win he dies wins, right? :boxing:

BBQchef33
04-08-2010, 01:03 PM
I feel the need to add something. Please take this in the spirit it is intended and from ALOT of experience in organizing things for this forum.

when I have organized something, I have done it 2 ways.

i have asked for input from those involved as to how to go about it and taken general consensus and did what everyone aggreeed on. :ear:

i have set the criteria or rules for the whatever, and for those that feel inclined, may join in.


Chris took option 2. He spent alot of time going over several options and what he posted was what and how he(and his team) decided to do things. Not to be overly blunt, but he didnt ask for alternative options as to how to do it.

This has happened to me often. After I put alot of effort into coming up with something I felt would be a benefit/or fun/ or easy, or whatever, only to find myself second guessing things because other folks started offering options and opinions and alternatives. :gossip:

It took the wind out of my sails many times when my plan gets derailed after it was worked fro days or weeks due to other 'ideas'. I felt like folks didnt agree with my decisions, i made the wrong choice, or I was slighting someone.

I'm not saying thats happening here, and im offering unsolicited 2 cents, but Chris posted a well thought out plan that I know his team worked thru several options.

Take these thoughts it for whats its worth. YMMMV.

Derek
04-08-2010, 01:05 PM
Wow Biga, Your da man fo shur.

Alan in Ga
04-08-2010, 02:59 PM
My wife and I love the throwdowns prizes or not keep up the good work bigabyte. It gives her and I something to do together and that is prize enough win or not.

bigabyte
04-08-2010, 03:01 PM
If i'm second guessing anything...it's the trip to Hawaii with the giant piles of cash from selling calendars. Why everyone isn't trying to get rich quick off of selling calendars is beyond me.:crazy: But, I will stick with the prizes idea. Maybe someone will win a brand new FEC-100?:crazy:

Paulmark
04-08-2010, 03:54 PM
:confused:I guess it really dosen't matter to me one way or another. I'll just keep on cooking. And BTW thanks Bigabyte.:thumb:

bigabyte
04-08-2010, 04:10 PM
OK, here's the accounting of all paid orders so far. The names of the individuals have been changed to protect their identity. Only I possess the secret key to decipher the true names of these individuals. You can try to figure out who they are if you want, but I can assure you that the new names were created with the most sophisticated name-encryption technology available today, so you'd better be one helluva hack to try that.

This shows $0 profit so far because no calendars have been shipped yet, so the shipping cost is still unknown, thus the profit is really unknown.

The fees listed are fees charged to me in order to receive payment. So far this has only been from PayPal, it takes a piece of each transaction (except one for some reason, I don't understand why exactly, but that's how it happened).

The first 9 orders listed here have been sent to the printer (pudding-flavored bratwurststroker through trout-fingered slagbuddy) because they were fully paid by the time I sent the first batch of orders to Santa Gnome to be printed. So on the next update, only those first 9 orders will have a shipping cost and profit listed. The next batch of orders is not scheduled to be sent to Santa Gnome until 4/19.

If you don't like this format...tough.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc150/bigabyte/20100408.jpg

BBQ Grail
04-08-2010, 04:16 PM
I feel the love...

deguerre
04-08-2010, 04:28 PM
OK, my identity could be only one of five. Hmmmmmm....aw heck. They're all pretty descriptive anyway.

Gore
04-08-2010, 06:04 PM
Hmmm.....I could use the money for my speculative oil fund....Is a t-shirt a zero thing...maybe a hat? Oh no, not another Brethren HAT!:doh:

No, just the logo on the T-shirt suggested a "Zero" recipient. :-D

Gore
04-08-2010, 06:24 PM
This is pretty cool and it may change everything, but not for this backyard cook.


I am perfectly happy with a wonderful wife (who also enjoys these throwdowns) and two beautiful daughters. But I know just how these things happen. By dumb luck, I win one of these and Chris ends up sending me a new Traeger. The quality of the cooking increases, I win another, and he ends up sending me a new Ferrari. Pretty soon, the neighbors get jealous and start giving me nasty looks. The hot divorcee next door starts hanging out by ol' blue and starts asking BBQ advice and how to marinade meat. Before I know it, I'm kicked out of the house, all my friends hate me, the wife has taken the Ferrari since nobody could believe she didn't win the throwdown (which would be true) with her cooking ability, the divorcee has long since dumped me for the accountant next door and I'm living under a bridge. Seen it happen a thousand times. No thanks!

bigabyte
04-08-2010, 06:59 PM
No, just the logo on the T-shirt suggested a "Zero" recipient. :-D
Good eye, I didn't notice that...rounded like a zero...might even be able to somehow form it into a rising sun sort of thing...

High Q
04-08-2010, 09:53 PM
Thanks Chris for organizing the throw downs. I know you put a good deal of time and effort into the throwdown threads, the voting threads and now prize pack administration. I really appreciate the weekly challenge and enjoy looking at the great food being turned out by the brethren.

That said, I don't appreciate my ID being changed to poo-lipped crackhog. It's just wrong. I don't even like crack. :twitch:

Gore
04-08-2010, 10:42 PM
That said, I don't appreciate my ID being changed to poo-lipped crackhog. It's just wrong. I don't even like crack. :twitch:

I guess I've got it pretty good being a "pale-flavored crotchdealer." What mystifies me is how did he know? :icon_blush:

bigabyte
04-08-2010, 11:39 PM
That said, I don't appreciate my ID being changed to poo-lipped crackhog. It's just wrong. I don't even like crack. :twitch:
I guess I've got it pretty good being a "pale-flavored crotchdealer." What mystifies me is how did he know? :icon_blush:
I'd just tell you that you are both wrong, but I don't want people figuring out the real names by process of elimination, so I will just let you wonder.

I actually picked a more tame name. The original one was mud-limbed dungwhipper.

If you do want your name publicly shared, I will let you know your secret identity, but you have to state here that you wish to have your identity known.

deguerre
04-12-2010, 10:58 AM
I'd just tell you that you are both wrong, but I don't want people figuring out the real names by process of elimination, so I will just let you wonder.

I actually picked a more tame name. The original one was mud-limbed dungwhipper.

If you do want your name publicly shared, I will let you know your secret identity, but you have to state here that you wish to have your identity known.
So Stated.
"Ask me, Bridgekeeper. I am not affraid."

bigabyte
04-12-2010, 12:16 PM
So Stated.
"Ask me, Bridgekeeper. I am not affraid."
OK, you asked for it, you twinkie-fisted junksucker!:becky:

deguerre
04-12-2010, 12:20 PM
Ha! I KNEW it!!!!! Based on my thinking that I was the first order submitted for the second round off to the printer. Of course...I could have been wrong on the logic.

Rick's Tropical Delight
04-12-2010, 06:03 PM
i thought the proceeds were to go to the brethren site

bigabyte
04-12-2010, 10:08 PM
i thought the proceeds were to go to the brethren site
Nope, I never said that.

Gore
04-12-2010, 10:31 PM
I kinda like the way the tags are shaping up in this one. So, which one am I?
I know which one, but I want to see it appear as a tag :-D

Jersey Joe
04-12-2010, 11:55 PM
I love voting in these contests, and seeing all of the work that some of you put into your cooks.

Although I've yet to enter one, I really don't think that this is a good idea. It sure has the potential to ruin or drasticly change the fun aspects of the contests.

If prizes are to be awarded, IMHO, they should be either ribbons or HUGE novelty checks (like the ones that jackpot winners hold for the photos) for $1.00 with the name of the throwdown and winner on them.

Rick's Tropical Delight
04-13-2010, 06:27 AM
Nope, I never said that.

i just went back to one of the original threads and the question "are the proceeds going to go back to the site" was asked but you didn't answer it. i would prefer the proceeds go to the site.

cmcadams
04-13-2010, 06:48 AM
Chris, do it however you want... it doesn't affect me, as I'd have to win first. :)

deguerre
04-13-2010, 08:07 AM
Chris, do it however you want... it doesn't affect me, as I'd have to win first. :)
Me too.

bigabyte
04-13-2010, 08:41 AM
Look folks, the decision has been made, and this stuff's going to prizes. I talked to Phil on the phone a few months back, and told him I felt some or all of the money should go to the site because without the site there wouldn't be any Throwdowns. Phil didn't want the money.

If you don't like it, that is fine. I'm not asking each and every member of the BBQ Brethren to approve. You don't have to like it. There is no decision I could make that would make every member happy. Everyone has their own opinion.

First off, I did NOT WANT there to be profits, so that I would not have to deal with people worrying about where the money was going. It was a headache I did not want. However, we have to remember that the printing and footwork to get these shipped to you were offered as a gift, absolutely free by Santa Gnome. The only way to keep Santa Gnome from having to do more work than they had so graciously offered was to offer a flat rate that would cover any unusually high shipping costs. This is turn meant a possibility of either having money left over, or one of us having to shell out our own money in case we came up short. Neither Santa Gnome nor I want to have to shell out our own money to get you all a calendar you all asked for. We never pushed this idea on anybody, everybody was farking clamoring for a farking calendar, and we farking delivered it. So to ensure we did not have to pay out of our own pocket to make you all happy, we are charging the $10 per calendar, which left me to decide what to do with the farking profits. Like I already said, I talked to Phil about it and he doesn't want the money. In fact, he suggested I keep the money for myself as payment for the service of providing the Brethren with the Throwdowns in the first place.

So take it or leave it. This is where it's going. If anyone wants to raise a stink, go right the fark ahead, I'm not listening.

deguerre
04-13-2010, 08:44 AM
Look folks, the decision has been made, and this stuff's going to prizes. I talked to Phil on the phone a few months back, and told him I felt some or all of the money should go to the site because without the site there wouldn't be any Throwdowns. Phil didn't want the money.

If you don't like it, that is fine. I'm not asking each and every member of the BBQ Brethren to approve. You don't have to like it. There is no decision I could make that would make every member happy. Everyone has their own opinion.

First off, I did NOT WANT there to be profits, so that I would not have to deal with people worrying about where the money was going. It was a headache I did not want. However, we have to remember that the printing and footwork to get these shipped to you were offered as a gift, absolutely free by Santa Gnome. The only way to keep Santa Gnome from having to do more work than they had so graciously offered was to offer a flat rate that would cover any unusually high shipping costs. This is turn meant a possibility of having money left over, of one of us having to shell out our own money in case we came up short. Neither Santa Gnome nor I want to have to shell out our own money to get you all a calendar you all asked for. We never pushed this on anybody, everybody was farking clamoring for it, and we farking delivered it. So to ensure we did not have to pay out of our own pocket, we are charging the $10 per calendar, which left me to decide what to do with the farking profits. Like I already said, I talked to Phil about it and he doesn't want the money. In fact, he suggested I keep the money for myself as payment for the service of providing YOU with the Throwdowns in the first place.

So take it or leave it. This is where it's going. If anyone wants to raise a stink, go right the fark ahead, I'm not listening.

Burger.

bigabyte
04-19-2010, 12:36 PM
Another batch of orders were sent to Santa Gnome today. Here is the updated spreadsheet. Since I have not yet been billed for shipping, I still have no final profits to report yet. The grand total of Calendars ordered and paid to date is 64.