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Mo-Dave
03-20-2010, 10:54 AM
All this talk about using wagu brisket at contest makes me wonder if contest are getting a little wacky. The whole thing about cooking a brisket, used to be about taking an almost worthless cut of meat and turning it into something fabulous, instead of taking a fabulous cut of meat and turning it into something fabulous.

Some of us can't even get our hands on a wague let a lone afford one. I think the KCBS should disallow the use of them in contest and make a prime the highest grade that can be used, to help level the playing field but then I guess they would have to outlaw pellet cookers as well. :boxing:
Dave

ClayHill
03-20-2010, 11:20 AM
Ooops, thought this was a thread about Elmer Fudd's new spaghetti sauce.

took me a second.....thats hilarious:-D

There is no magic bullet when it comes to comp bbq. Myron does well with waygu........but I'd bet that he could make even select a winner.

Jorge
03-20-2010, 11:45 AM
All this talk about using wagu brisket at contest makes me wonder if contest are getting a little wacky. The whole thing about cooking a brisket, used to be about taking an almost worthless cut of meat and turning it into something fabulous, instead of taking a fabulous cut of meat and turning it into something fabulous.

Some of us can't even get our hands on a wague let a lone afford one. I think the KCBS should disallow the use of them in contest and make a prime the highest grade that can be used, to help level the playing field but then I guess they would have to outlaw pellet cookers as well. :boxing:
Dave


I thought the point was to turn out the best product possible. I'll agree that in some ways things have been pushed to an extreme though.

I just don't see the use of Wagyu being a major issue though. I've been able to find it at prices that are competitive with USDA Prime brisket. Shipping costs can be steep, but so is having to buy a case of Prime brisket to just get a couple pieces so that a retailer will be willing to order it for me.

big brother smoke
03-20-2010, 11:49 AM
Waygu don't guarantee chit! I have used Waygus in comps. My best finish has been with a choice packer.

KC_Bobby
03-20-2010, 12:43 PM
It's still the same cut of meat, but just from a specific breed. Sounds like someone must be getting tired of winter.

Mo-Dave
03-20-2010, 03:03 PM
It's still the same cut of meat, but just from a specific breed. Sounds like someone must be getting tired of winter.

Yep I just lit up my smoker and have a brisket and butt ready to go. It is crazy nasty outside rain, wind and sleet but these are about the same comp conditions Capital City cookoff in Jefferson City had the first contest they put on. I was not going to cook today but thought I mite as well getter done, cause the weather may not be this nice when I cook the contest. :crazy:
Dave
PS its not a wagu brisket.

River City Smokehouse
03-20-2010, 04:13 PM
Dave,
Schulte's Fresh Foods in Jeff City is now carrying whole PRIME GRADE:clap2: packers. They run about $3.99/lb. If you want any for the Capital City Cook-Off you better call Scott and order them to make sure he has enough in stock for you to get what you need.
I called and ordered a case yesterday and he said he had three cases coming in for next week. I would imagine that when folks get the drift that he is selling Prime then they will start disappearing more quickly. His number is 573-636-8413. Schulte's Fresh Foods- ask for Scott in the meat dept.

monty3777
03-20-2010, 05:47 PM
Dave,
Schulte's Fresh Foods in Jeff City is now carrying whole PRIME GRADE:clap2: packers. They run about $3.99/lb. .

Wow. That's a lot of jack for a choice brisket. Are you serious? I typically pay ~$25 for ~13# brisket at Sams.

Podge
03-20-2010, 05:59 PM
Waygu don't guarantee chit! I have used Waygus in comps. My best finish has been with a choice packer.

I totally, totally, totally agree !!!!:thumb:.. I've cooked nothing but C.A.B.'s and don't see a need to switch !!!

River City Smokehouse
03-20-2010, 08:27 PM
Wow. That's a lot of jack for a choice brisket. Are you serious? I typically pay ~$25 for ~13# brisket at Sams.
I never said anything about Choice briskets. I said Prime. IMO you get what you pay for. sam's sometimes has ok meat, but I can buy better from other places. So far the best brisket I've had is Certified Herford Beef. Awesome stuff.

swamprb
03-21-2010, 02:39 AM
Wow! What's that saying to the American farmers and cattlemen raising the breed?

http://www.wagyu.org/wagyu.htm

http://www.wagyu.org/default.htm

Is It Ready Yet?
03-21-2010, 08:31 AM
Dave,
Schulte's Fresh Foods in Jeff City is now carrying whole PRIME GRADE:clap2: packers. They run about $3.99/lb. If you want any for the Capital City Cook-Off you better call Scott and order them to make sure he has enough in stock for you to get what you need.
I called and ordered a case yesterday and he said he had three cases coming in for next week. I would imagine that when folks get the drift that he is selling Prime then they will start disappearing more quickly. His number is 573-636-8413. Schulte's Fresh Foods- ask for Scott in the meat dept.

All, when ordering a case of meat....you are picking through the case picking out the best visable cuts for comp. Where does the rest go (freezer)? Does anyone else use meat for comps that was previously frozen?

RobKC
03-21-2010, 09:38 AM
Does anyone else use meat for comps that was previously frozen?

Briskets, yes. I wouldn't knowingly use previously frozen butts.

River City Smokehouse
03-21-2010, 10:43 AM
I never freeze except chicken and beef. The case of prime briskets is for a friend. But, I bet you can't tell the diference whether it was previously frozen. Pork for some reason isn't as forgiving.

Jeff_in_KC
03-21-2010, 05:39 PM
Both my 2nd place and 3rd place Wagyu briskets came frozen. I'd PREFER they were never frozen but apparently it doesn't really hurt them much.

monty3777
03-21-2010, 05:58 PM
I never said anything about Choice briskets. I said Prime. IMO you get what you pay for. sam's sometimes has ok meat, but I can buy better from other places. So far the best brisket I've had is Certified Herford Beef. Awesome stuff.

My bad - I did a sloppy job of reading :redface: