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Merl
02-16-2010, 08:37 PM
The agenda for the special meeting of the KCBS board of directors has been posted on the www.kcbs.us (http://www.kcbs.us) website under news.
Merl

Coz
02-16-2010, 08:39 PM
Merl what is the competitor series?

ThomEmery
02-16-2010, 08:43 PM
Daytona Beach
Brooklyn, MI
Springdale, AR
Hot Springs, AR
Talledega, AL
Irving, TX
Richmond, VA
Dallas, TX

Interesting idea got my wheels turning

MilitantSquatter
02-16-2010, 08:43 PM
Would the competitor series not count towards TOY points like others previously ?

Merl
02-16-2010, 08:44 PM
Merl what is the competitor series?

The organizer is allowed to change the standard KCBS rules of competition. The organizer uses KCBS judging and scoring. The LPQ was a competitor series because gas was used. It will qualify for jack and perhaps the royal, but not for KCBS TOY.

There is more, but these are the highlights.

Merl

HoDeDo
02-16-2010, 10:21 PM
Thanks for posting that Merl. And yes, I believe you are correct... The AR does not require an event be KCBS sanctioned to get an invitation. It can just be of the proper size and a state championship to qualify for the invite. Same with the Jack. your event can qualify for the Jack draw based on size, state championship status, or status with an approved sanctioning body. In both cases, if you want your event in the mix, you have to work with the organizer of the invitational.

LPQ was a great event. I always thought we would see more events like that... maybe a stickburner only event sponsored by lang, or a WSM only event, etc... that excluded pellets or excluded charcoal or some that focused on all hog or all beef, etc... It never really took off, so this might be good for it.

tmcmaster
02-16-2010, 10:39 PM
I always thought we would see more events like that... maybe a stickburner only event sponsored by lang, or a WSM only event, etc... that excluded pellets or excluded charcoal or some that focused on all hog or all beef, etc... It never really took off, so this might be good for it.
Here here!

Not that I have any special distaste for pellets, but it would be a fun time to have a specific one fuel source event from time to time.

ThomEmery
02-16-2010, 10:43 PM
If this becomes a way to put a contest next door to a existing one same date
That really is sad

HoDeDo
02-16-2010, 10:58 PM
Here here!

Not that I have any special distaste for pellets, but it would be a fun time to have a specific one fuel source event from time to time.

The first 4 years of the polar swine was stickburner only.
The last year was open pit... any fuel source.

The "stickburner only" was what some folks used as an excuse to not come out and cook in Feb, on lake Melvern (middle of KS). So I removed that requirement, and said bring any pit!!:twisted:

I'd love to see more events like the LPQ.

Diva
02-16-2010, 11:02 PM
If this becomes a way to put a contest next door to a existing one same date
That really is sad

I don't see that written anywhere in the highlights.....

Plowboy
02-16-2010, 11:09 PM
Thanks for posting that Merl. And yes, I believe you are correct... The AR does not require an event be KCBS sanctioned to get an invitation. It can just be of the proper size and a state championship to qualify for the invite. Same with the Jack. your event can qualify for the Jack draw based on size, state championship status, or status with an approved sanctioning body. In both cases, if you want your event in the mix, you have to work with the organizer of the invitational.

LPQ was a great event. I always thought we would see more events like that... maybe a stickburner only event sponsored by lang, or a WSM only event, etc... that excluded pellets or excluded charcoal or some that focused on all hog or all beef, etc... It never really took off, so this might be good for it.

I think there are also category requirements for Jack and Royal qualifiers. I think you have to have a beef and chicken category. I recall that the Qlossal was not a qualifier because it didn't have chicken and brisket.

ThomEmery
02-17-2010, 08:07 AM
I don't see that written anywhere in the highlights.....

LOL You don't highlight something like that
Here is the question
Would a competitors series event be subject to the same
rules regarding contest date as a regular KCBS event?
or say it this way
Could someone place a competitor event on the calendar
on the same day as a regular event about 15 miles away?

Ford
02-17-2010, 08:18 AM
Phoenix is not on the list anymore. Looks like all that fuss about wanting Phoenix on the same date as an existing contest has changed. How often does this schedule of events change?

Merl
02-17-2010, 08:26 AM
LOL You don't highlight something like that
Here is the question
Would a competitors series event be subject to the same
rules regarding contest date as a regular KCBS event?
or say it this way
Could someone place a competitor event on the calendar
on the same day as a regular event about 15 miles away?

Good question Thom,
KCBS policy is that all forms of sanctioning Masters (traditional) Competitive, or 1st time Licensed contest are all subject to the rules considering saturation and density of cooks when considering request, in any geographical area.
Merl

Jorge
02-17-2010, 09:21 AM
I think there are also category requirements for Jack and Royal qualifiers. I think you have to have a beef and chicken category. I recall that the Qlossal was not a qualifier because it didn't have chicken and brisket.

I believe it's beef, pork, chicken. Most contests in Texas will have brisket, ribs, 1/2 chicken. There aren't many 'state championship' events either, because it's so common to reach the 50 team mark to become a qualifier.

Plowboy
02-17-2010, 11:04 AM
I believe it's beef, pork, chicken. Most contests in Texas will have brisket, ribs, 1/2 chicken. There aren't many 'state championship' events either, because it's so common to reach the 50 team mark to become a qualifier.

Yes, I wasn't clear on the pork. Thanks.

Ron_L
02-17-2010, 11:28 AM
LPQ was a great event. I always thought we would see more events like that... maybe a stickburner only event sponsored by lang, or a WSM only event, etc... that excluded pellets or excluded charcoal or some that focused on all hog or all beef, etc... It never really took off, so this might be good for it.

Or a pellet only event sponsored by Cookshack, BBQers Delight, Traeger, etc. :rolleyes:

Scottie
02-17-2010, 12:11 PM
Or a pellet only event sponsored by Cookshack, BBQers Delight, Traeger, etc. :rolleyes:


That might happen before you know it... :icon_shy

Scottie
02-17-2010, 12:13 PM
Phoenix is not on the list anymore. Looks like all that fuss about wanting Phoenix on the same date as an existing contest has changed. How often does this schedule of events change?


The dates have been all over the plaace with SOTW and the Phoenix contest.

I think more to the point is why one contest can get a second look from the BOD and the other (AZ BBQ) doesn't get that same luxury? the BOD needs to be held accountible. Just not voting on who is friends with who...

G$
02-17-2010, 12:59 PM
Phoenix is not on the list anymore. Looks like all that fuss about wanting Phoenix on the same date as an existing contest has changed. How often does this schedule of events change?

One could assume that Phoenix is not on the list because the organizer knows that there is a conflict, and has no intention of seeking KCBS sanctioning for that event.

Ford
02-17-2010, 01:31 PM
Considering it's still advertised on the SOTW website I think you're probably right. And I think even BOD members have probably figured it out. So we wait until the anouncement of the new sanctioning for the contest. I really doubt the KCBS will ever approve it even as a competitor contest.

And the SOTW website shows Lula MS as a KCBS sanctioned event with KCBS rules and judges. So my guess is he wants full KCBS sanctioning for it tonight. Boy it would be fun to be a little fly on the wall. Wait I am calling in for it:biggrin:

G$
02-17-2010, 04:04 PM
I re as the saturation rule specifically.ally doubt the KCBS will ever approve it even as a competitor contest.


I believe the board is on record as saying that the competitor series conforms to rules such as the saturation rule specifically.



Boy it would be fun to be a little fly on the wall. Wait I am calling in for it:biggrin:

Ford, can you record it and post the podcast for us? :-P (It's a joke, guys!!!)

Ford
02-17-2010, 05:02 PM
Ford, can you record it and post the podcast for us? :-P (It's a joke, guys!!!)
Here's what's in the email I got
"
With the use of this Conference number and access code you are agreeing and understand that no portion of the meeting may be recorded or reproduced for any purpose, all rights reserved to KCBS."

And you must pay for the long distance charges. It does not say I can't post what I hear. But the stuff for the trailer came this afternoon. We got things in and now it's assembly time. Ain't that fun. So I might not be doing much posting for a few days. I will however take notes.

tmcmaster
02-17-2010, 05:53 PM
That might happen before you know it... :icon_shy
Would it even need to? It seems the majority of events are populated with 90% pellets, anyway...:shock:

tmcmaster
02-17-2010, 05:56 PM
Here's what's in the email I got
"
With the use of this Conference number and access code you are agreeing and understand that no portion of the meeting may be recorded or reproduced for any purpose, all rights reserved to KCBS."

And you must pay for the long distance charges. It does not say I can't post what I hear. But the stuff for the trailer came this afternoon. We got things in and now it's assembly time. Ain't that fun. So I might not be doing much posting for a few days. I will however take notes.
As will I... frantically typing in Notepad and sipping Scotch!:icon_smil

Merl
02-17-2010, 06:58 PM
As will I... frantically typing in Notepad and sipping Scotch!:icon_smil

As long as you guys are doing all this typing, will one of you send me the quick notes and the minutes.
Thanks
Merl Whitebook,
Secretary

tmcmaster
02-17-2010, 07:08 PM
As long as you guys are doing all this typing, will one of you send me the quick notes and the minutes.
Thanks
Merl Whitebook,
Secretary
I have been trying to dial in for 10 minutes and getting a "call not completed" message...:mad:

Ford
02-17-2010, 07:17 PM
I have been trying to dial in for 10 minutes and getting a "call not completed" message...:mad:
Just got email to get in.

tmcmaster
02-17-2010, 07:23 PM
Just got email to get in.
Same here... Thanks!

Gene01
02-17-2010, 07:42 PM
Sorry guys, the second phone system was not working, that is why you got the board member number and access codes via e-mail...

tmcmaster
02-17-2010, 08:10 PM
As long as you guys are doing all this typing, will one of you send me the quick notes and the minutes.
Thanks
Merl Whitebook,
Secretary
Sorry, Merl - The Scotch was flowing far too easily... :biggrin:

HoDeDo
02-17-2010, 10:00 PM
Or a pellet only event sponsored by Cookshack, BBQers Delight, Traeger, etc. :rolleyes:
That might happen before you know it... :icon_shy

You guys know I am in! That would be a hoot!!! Do it in Ponca City, on the lake... it was a fun venue already! Or we all go roost in Candy's yard!

Sorry, Merl - The Scotch was flowing far too easily... :biggrin:

ThomEmery
02-17-2010, 10:03 PM
OK Results on this deal, are?

Crash
02-17-2010, 10:04 PM
Still waiting....

U2CANQUE
02-17-2010, 10:59 PM
wow, drawn out