'Diamond Fire Igniter' ..................

[Qczar]

Probably has been mentioned before (apoligize, I`m new to the 'Brethren'). But, I was at the local Clone Depot today and noticed a charcol/wood chip igniter called a 'Diamond Fire Igniter', made by New Braunfels. Looked like a good idea for 20 bucks, though it did`nt mention the Bandera as a canidate for using it in the instructions. Just a few horizontal models.

Anyone use this thing on a Bandera?

Though I have`nt got my Bandera as of yet, and have read and reread the 101 file, I did`nt notice any section here that mentions how to start a good fire in the fire box?

http://www.nbsmoker.com/accessories3.html

Also they had a New Braunfels temp gauge. Is it any more acurate?

Thanks again for any help or advice folks, ................ Greedy

[chad]

You might have to drill the hole for installation. Gas igniters have been the topic of several debates on this forum.

Can't say I see any difference using this rig than shoving a turkey fryer burner into the firebox or using the fryer or sidecar on a gas grill to set off the chimney.

I use my alcohol backbacking stove most of the time. I don't burn up the chimneys as often and still have a full burn going in 15-20 minutes. Denatured alcohol is cheap and I made the camping stove from a soda can and perlite.

[Jorge]

Can't help on the ignitor. Consensus is that the NB guage is less than accurate. There has been a post recently about a more accurate substitute available at Wally World. In any case make sure you get a few oven thermometers and toss them into the smoke chamber to find your hot and cool spots.

[BBQchef33]

That igniter is designed for the Black Diamond/ Silver smoker / Hondo.

i have that burner in my Hondo. Its powered by a small screwon propane tank, like the ones you use for colman lanterns. That little NB burner that attachs to the fireboxes is an extremely low BTU, yellow flame and very small surface area, lighting up only the few briquettes above it and if you try lighting logs with it, you may as well rub 2 sticks together.

Heres some advice if ya dont mind. Brinkman has a small fish fryer set, comes with a High BTU burner, a stainless steel pot and strainer and some utensils. i think its called the Mini Brinkman. Its 35 bucks usually at wally world and they put it on sale often for 25. I use that burner exclusivly for lighting my chimneys. 3 minutes under a chimney and in 5 you have a lit chimney. I think I have some pictures posted somewhere of it installed on the Black Diamond. Its a decent deal for 20 bucks if your a patient person, but for a few bucks more, the turkey burner or fish fryer is a better option.

the NB door thermo can be off by as mush as 50 degrees hi or low. The Brinkman is available at wally world also, its a 2.5 inch face, fits right in the bandera hole and is much more accurate.

Also, best bet is to get yourself a few 10$ probe thermos from bed/batch & beyond or Linens & things. Stick one in the meat and another thru a cork, or potato or something to hold it steady. Stick the probe all the way thru the cork with the tip sticking out and keep that next to the food for a temperature reading.

[cabo]

" Stick it all the way thru with the tip sticking out and keep that net tot he food for a temperature reading."


HUH!!!!!!

[Jorge]

" Stick it all the way thru with the tip sticking out and keep that net tot he food for a temperature reading."


HUH!!!!!!

Bloody Mar..errrr...Phil mod?

[slat]

All those Japs and cajun peanuts must also be affecting his vision or thought process. I second that HUH too.

[kcquer]

did`nt notice any section here that mentions how to start a good fire in the fire box?

Greedy, being a vet of only a few cooks I think I know the kind of thing you might be looking for. At the top of the Q talk index is a sticky post called roadmap. There are links to 2 threads there that I thought very good fire mgt 101. Hope these help.

[BigAl]

Greedy,

I fill about 1/3 of my basket on the left side of a divider and use my soldering tourch with on of those small tanks shown on the NB link you posted to light my coals. Not as quick as Phils method but works fine.

[BBQchef33]

ok, I fixed my typing. What i was TRYING to say was to stick a probe all the way thru something(cork, potaoto,etc), and use that to make the probe stay where you put it.

and theres nothing wrong with my typing, its my keyboard that keeps messing up. :)
You'd never know I do this stuff for a living would ya. You gotta see some of my emails.

PS.. greedyweed, If you havent allready, go download the Bandera 101 Document from our files section under bandera mods.

[cabo]

"You'd never know I do this stuff for a living would ya. You gotta see some of my emails."


UHhh, Yeah
I've seen some!! :shock: AND YOU'RE RIGHT!
You're getting paid under false pretenses. :twisted:

[stlmike]

Greedy,
I use a Weber fire starting cube and a Weber chimney...hot coals in twenty minutes.
StL Mike

[brdbbq]

I turn the gas on .

[jt]

I've got a 500,000BTU propane torch I use on the farm for lighting brush piles, etc. I just open the firebox, train it on the wood and fire it up. I usually have a good flame in a couple minutes.

[shock]

I use my Weber chimey and chunk charcol. I'll have a good base fire in about 10 - 15 minutes...