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backyardchef
02-09-2010, 11:37 AM
Hey folks, it is time once again to think about Grillin' On The Bay (http://grillinonthebay.blogspot.com/) in NYC.



I got this in my email and was asked to pass it along....



It's NYC's only BBQ and grilling contest, and your points will count towards NEBS team of the year!

Grillin' On The Bay and the Brooklyn Chili Smack Down (http://grillinonthebay.blogspot.com/)

Just come hang out and eat or we're always looking for new cooks, get your grill on!
We'd love to have you join in.

We attract some of the North East's top cooks. Don't you want to come play this field?

Last year's teams included...


Smoke In Da Eye - 2008 Champion! featuring Clint Cantwell of the Food Network's Burger Challenge
Purple Turtle Caterers - Returning Champions from the first Grillin' On The Bay.
Beer Belly Porkers
iQue featuring Andy O. C. Husbands of the award winning Tremont 647 and contestant on Hell's Kitchen
Ribs Within featuring Greg Killes of New Jersey's Grub Hut
The King's County BBQ Truck
Josh Ozersky of the Feedbag formerly of Grub Street
Wildwood BBQ featuring Big Lou Elrose corporate pitmaster of Wildwood BBQ withRobbie Richter, former pitmaster of Hill Country and current Pitmaster for the soon to be opened Zak Pelaccio's Fatty Que
Moose's Mayhem
Atom's Ribs featuring Matt Fisher, former Pitmaster of Wildwood BBQ NYC and current chef at RUB BBQ
RUB BBQ featuring Scott Smith Pitmaster at RUB BBQ
Team Agave featuring I Smell Smoke's Steve Farrin, the New England BBQ Society's team of the year for 2009
Ma's Cue Crew
Transformer BBQ - 2009 Champion!
Smoke On The Water
Porkaholics
RB's BBQ
Pearl Lee Q's
Eat A Donut

Past teams have included...
The Waterfront Ale House's Fuggetaboutit Team
Fat Angel
Duke's Restaurant
The Anchormen
Q Haven
Front St. Smokehouse
Burnt Side Down
Better BBQ Bureau
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZlfyEhmoDrg/SZ2Hb3jcPGI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/pp6YcO_sUl0/s200/Pig.bmp (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZlfyEhmoDrg/SZ2Hb3jcPGI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/pp6YcO_sUl0/s1600-h/Pig.bmp)Grillin' On The Bay 2010

Saturday March 27, 2010

To benefit St. Mark School (http://www.stmarkparish.org/) Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn
Sponsored by RUB BBQ (http://www.rubbbq.net/)
Sanctioned by The New England BBQ Society


Corner of East 18th Street and Avenue Z, Sheepshead Bay Brooklyn
Four Grilling Categories: Chicken, Fish, Pork Ribs and Chef's Choice
$75 to $125 to Enter and cook for cash and fabulous prizes


and

The Brooklyn Chili Smack Down
A People's Choice Chili Contest
Any type of Chili you want to make. -- You call it Chili - We call it Chili
Free to Enter to cook and $100 to the winner!




We'd love to see you there! For more information: Email Brooklynq@gmail. com (http://us.mc311.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Brooklynq@gmail.com) or call 917-763-5062

SmokeInDaEye
02-09-2010, 02:59 PM
always a great time!

motoeric
02-09-2010, 06:56 PM
I enjoyed it last year and hope to be there again this year.

Eric

Frank Sacco
02-09-2010, 06:58 PM
Nuttz are in....

nancee
02-09-2010, 08:42 PM
did he get the hotel thing done?!!

Hey folks, it is time once again to think about Grillin' On The Bay (http://grillinonthebay.blogspot.com/) in NYC.



I got this in my email and was asked to pass it along....



It's NYC's only BBQ and grilling contest, and your points will count towards NEBS team of the year!

Grillin' On The Bay and the Brooklyn Chili Smack Down (http://grillinonthebay.blogspot.com/)

Just come hang out and eat or we're always looking for new cooks, get your grill on!
We'd love to have you join in.

We attract some of the North East's top cooks. Don't you want to come play this field?

Last year's teams included...


Smoke In Da Eye - 2008 Champion! featuring Clint Cantwell of the Food Network's Burger Challenge
Purple Turtle Caterers - Returning Champions from the first Grillin' On The Bay.
Beer Belly Porkers
iQue featuring Andy O. C. Husbands of the award winning Tremont 647 and contestant on Hell's Kitchen
Ribs Within featuring Greg Killes of New Jersey's Grub Hut
The King's County BBQ Truck
Josh Ozersky of the Feedbag formerly of Grub Street
Wildwood BBQ featuring Big Lou Elrose corporate pitmaster of Wildwood BBQ withRobbie Richter, former pitmaster of Hill Country and current Pitmaster for the soon to be opened Zak Pelaccio's Fatty Que
Moose's Mayhem
Atom's Ribs featuring Matt Fisher, former Pitmaster of Wildwood BBQ NYC and current chef at RUB BBQ
RUB BBQ featuring Scott Smith Pitmaster at RUB BBQ
Team Agave featuring I Smell Smoke's Steve Farrin, the New England BBQ Society's team of the year for 2009
Ma's Cue Crew
Transformer BBQ - 2009 Champion!
Smoke On The Water
Porkaholics
RB's BBQ
Pearl Lee Q's
Eat A Donut

Past teams have included...
The Waterfront Ale House's Fuggetaboutit Team
Fat Angel
Duke's Restaurant
The Anchormen
Q Haven
Front St. Smokehouse
Burnt Side Down
Better BBQ Bureau

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZlfyEhmoDrg/SZ2Hb3jcPGI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/pp6YcO_sUl0/s200/Pig.bmp (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZlfyEhmoDrg/SZ2Hb3jcPGI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/pp6YcO_sUl0/s1600-h/Pig.bmp)Grillin' On The Bay 2010



Saturday March 27, 2010



To benefit St. Mark School (http://www.stmarkparish.org/) Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn
Sponsored by RUB BBQ (http://www.rubbbq.net/)
Sanctioned by The New England BBQ Society


Corner of East 18th Street and Avenue Z, Sheepshead Bay Brooklyn
Four Grilling Categories: Chicken, Fish, Pork Ribs and Chef's Choice
$75 to $125 to Enter and cook for cash and fabulous prizes


and

The Brooklyn Chili Smack Down
A People's Choice Chili Contest
Any type of Chili you want to make. -- You call it Chili - We call it Chili
Free to Enter to cook and $100 to the winner!




We'd love to see you there! For more information: Email Brooklynq@gmail. com (http://us.mc311.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Brooklynq@gmail.com) or call 917-763-5062

nancee
03-02-2010, 07:59 PM
Hey!!! Who's cookin this one??!!! Its Greg's birthday and we're lookin to hang out with a lot of brethren...

lunchlady
03-03-2010, 06:41 PM
I'm not cooking but I can tell ya the 'lunch-limo' is full of peeps travelling to Brooklyn for Grillin' On The Bay. Me, Gary, Sully, Bev and Sandy are coming in on Friday night so's we can be there early in the a.m. to get the party started.

I love this event! Good times, great people, and even better... a worthy cause!

This event is a benefit for St. Mark's School, PLUS the chili contest is open to EVERYONE... you don't have to be on a team that's entered, you can be a judge or a rep or just someone in the area who makes awesome chili! The chili is judged by the public, which is always interesting. This event is in its 5th year I believe, plus there is beer and some food for sale as well.

Come on Brethren... support your local events!!!!
There is still room for teams and judges!
Follow the link above or go to nebs.org for contact info...

I hope to see y'all there!

Jacked UP BBQ
03-03-2010, 08:19 PM
I may cook this one now that the daughters birthday party isn't until the next weekend, I think I maybe doing too many comps this year!

SmokeInDaEye
03-04-2010, 09:39 AM
I'm not cooking but I can tell ya the 'lunch-limo' is full of peeps travelling to Brooklyn for Grillin' On The Bay. Me, Gary, Sully, Bev and Sandy are coming in on Friday night so's we can be there early in the a.m. to get the party started.

I love this event! Good times, great people, and even better... a worthy cause!

This event is a benefit for St. Mark's School, PLUS the chili contest is open to EVERYONE... you don't have to be on a team that's entered, you can be a judge or a rep or just someone in the area who makes awesome chili! The chili is judged by the public, which is always interesting. This event is in its 5th year I believe, plus there is beer and some food for sale as well.

Come on Brethren... support your local events!!!!
There is still room for teams and judges!
Follow the link above or go to nebs.org for contact info...

I hope to see y'all there!

Look forward to seeing ya'll again! Got to work on a new call for Sully though. GRIIIILLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIN' TOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

SmokeInDaEye
03-11-2010, 09:52 AM
There are 28 paid teams now and only 2 spots remaining. Should be a good time as always.

The Anchorman
03-11-2010, 11:08 AM
I'm not cooking but I can tell ya the 'lunch-limo' is full of peeps travelling to Brooklyn for Grillin' On The Bay. Me, Gary, Sully, Bev and Sandy are coming in on Friday night so's we can be there early in the a.m. to get the party started.

I love this event! Good times, great people, and even better... a worthy cause!

This event is a benefit for St. Mark's School, PLUS the chili contest is open to EVERYONE... you don't have to be on a team that's entered, you can be a judge or a rep or just someone in the area who makes awesome chili! The chili is judged by the public, which is always interesting. This event is in its 5th year I believe, plus there is beer and some food for sale as well.

Come on Brethren... support your local events!!!!
There is still room for teams and judges!
Follow the link above or go to nebs.org for contact info...

I hope to see y'all there!


Got room for another person? Do they need another judge?

I would love to go!

Got gas $$


Sorry, I cant Ooops wifes Birthday.

SmokeInDaEye
03-12-2010, 12:09 PM
That's too bad. Woulda been nice to have the anchormen back in Brooklyn. Here's the lineup so far:

1 Blazin' Nuttz BBQ
2 Pearl Lee Q's
3 Uncle Jed's
4 FUHGEDDABOUTIT
5 Richie's Rib Shack
6 Garden State Porkway
7 The Moose is Loose BBQ
8 Burnt Side Down
9 Smokenstein & His Smokin' Bride
10 Beer Belly Porkers
11 Ed-'Que—Cators
12 Brother Mark BBQ
13 Smoke in da Eye
14 Bourbon BBQ
15 Purple Turtle Catering
16 XX Factor
17 Smokeopolis BBQ
18 Ma's Que Crew
19 Heavy Metal Beach Bum Barbecue
20 Wildwood Bbq
21 Smokehouse Rules
22 A Grill Smokes in Brooklyn
23 iQue
24 2 Fat Pollocks
25 Better BBQ Bureau
26 Rib's Within
27 Chumley's BBQ
28 Hill Country
29
30

SmokeInDaEye
03-17-2010, 02:35 PM
10 days remaining and two spots left for any late comers.

Do any of you NEBS folks know if veggies are allowed in stuffings? According to the rules the answer is no but that seems kind of odd if grains, meat, fruit and nuts are?

nancee
03-23-2010, 07:29 PM
judges, organizers and teams fraternizing beforehand...oh my!!! What is the world coming to??!!! Seriously, what if anything is the plan for Friday nite and are you guys taking off right after the contest?

I'm not cooking but I can tell ya the 'lunch-limo' is full of peeps travelling to Brooklyn for Grillin' On The Bay. Me, Gary, Sully, Bev and Sandy are coming in on Friday night so's we can be there early in the a.m. to get the party started.

I love this event! Good times, great people, and even better... a worthy cause!

This event is a benefit for St. Mark's School, PLUS the chili contest is open to EVERYONE... you don't have to be on a team that's entered, you can be a judge or a rep or just someone in the area who makes awesome chili! The chili is judged by the public, which is always interesting. This event is in its 5th year I believe, plus there is beer and some food for sale as well.

Come on Brethren... support your local events!!!!
There is still room for teams and judges!
Follow the link above or go to nebs.org for contact info...

I hope to see y'all there!

motoeric
03-23-2010, 10:04 PM
I hope to see everyone there.

If anyone needs a hand, let me know. Otherwise I'll visit a bit and hang with Blazzin Nuttz.

Eric

Born2Smoke
03-24-2010, 08:44 AM
Are there any spots left, if so We'll take it.

That's too bad. Woulda been nice to have the anchormen back in Brooklyn. Here's the lineup so far:

1 Blazin' Nuttz BBQ
2 Pearl Lee Q's
3 Uncle Jed's
4 FUHGEDDABOUTIT
5 Richie's Rib Shack
6 Garden State Porkway
7 The Moose is Loose BBQ
8 Burnt Side Down
9 Smokenstein & His Smokin' Bride
10 Beer Belly Porkers
11 Ed-'QueŚCators
12 Brother Mark BBQ
13 Smoke in da Eye
14 Bourbon BBQ
15 Purple Turtle Catering
16 XX Factor
17 Smokeopolis BBQ
18 Ma's Que Crew
19 Heavy Metal Beach Bum Barbecue
20 Wildwood Bbq
21 Smokehouse Rules
22 A Grill Smokes in Brooklyn
23 iQue
24 2 Fat Pollocks
25 Better BBQ Bureau
26 Rib's Within
27 Chumley's BBQ
28 Hill Country
29
30

SmokeInDaEye
03-24-2010, 09:18 AM
Are there any spots left, if so We'll take it.

There was one as of yesterday. Hit up the organizer who shall not be named at Brooklynq@gmail. com (http://us.mc311.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Brooklynq@gmail.com)

Looks like it'll be sunny and brisk Saturday. Look forward to seeing everyone!

Born2Smoke
03-24-2010, 09:31 AM
Awesome...just got off the phone with the organizer. We're in. See you all on Saturday. We cant wait.There was one as of yesterday. Hit up the organizer who shall not be named at Brooklynq@gmail. com (http://us.mc311.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Brooklynq@gmail.com)

Looks like it'll be sunny and brisk Saturday. Look forward to seeing everyone!

Rockaway BeachBQ
03-26-2010, 02:31 PM
Does anyone know for certain if the optional RUB Rapid Fire Challenge is going on and what that entails? Should I just bring extra spices for an all protein entry?

Jeremiah and I will be cooking as Heavy Metal Beach Bum Barbecue.

motoeric
03-26-2010, 04:50 PM
Does anyone know for certain if the optional RUB Rapid Fire Challenge is going on and what that entails? Should I just bring extra spices for an all protein entry?

Jeremiah and I will be cooking as Heavy Metal Beach Bum Barbecue.

Did you contact the organizer? I'd suggest dropping him an email. I know that last years 'surprise' category was steak from La Frieda's. I don't know if that helps at all.

Eric

Westexbbq
03-26-2010, 05:02 PM
Anybody got good directions from Suffolk county IF you're towing a big ol' pit.????
eg. directions that won't get one in trouble with the parkway federales?
(I'm riding shotgun with Brian of Ma's Que Crew and well be bringing his TexasBBQ propane tank stick burner.)

SmokeInDaEye
03-26-2010, 05:02 PM
The artists formerly known as OC Pig Assassins are also in. See you all in the am!

SmokeInDaEye
03-26-2010, 05:04 PM
Anybody got good directions from Suffolk county IF you're towing a big ol' pit.????
eg. directions that won't get one in trouble with the parkway federales?

I don't unfortunately, Wes. I've had a painful time the last two years with the trailer and am leaving it home tomorrow.

Westexbbq
03-26-2010, 06:32 PM
Thanks Clint,
perhaps other folk may chime in?

MilitantSquatter
03-26-2010, 06:45 PM
Thanks Clint,
perhaps other folk may chime in?

Basically have three options and they are all pretty crappy rides as far as time goes with a trailer and will take you through some really interesting neighborhoods.

Might want to test your luck and go on the Belt Pkwy in the early AM and have your NYPD PBA card ready to get out of a ticket...


1) Brooklyn-Queens Expwy to Flatbush Ave and then take that all the way down to Sheepshead Bay area (right on Ave. U, to Ocean Ave - make left to the # street a block or two away)

or

2) Sunrise Highway to North Conduit (service road of the Belt Parkway) to Linden Blvd. to Flatlands Ave to Flatbush Ave then right on Ave U to Ocean and left onto the # street

or

3) Travel through Long Beach, Atlantic Beach, Far Rockway over the Marine Parkway Bridge to Ave U to Knapp St or Ocean Ave to Sheepshead bay and find the # street

Westexbbq
03-26-2010, 07:02 PM
Thanks Vinny,:thumb:
That may work as we are leaving around 5am and I do have my get out of jail free card...:rolleyes:

nancee
03-26-2010, 07:10 PM
Looking forward to seeing everyone in the AM
Safe rides kids

chopshop
03-26-2010, 09:05 PM
I'll be there. I teamed up with JAcked up BBQ. It'll be like an OC PIG ASSASSINS reunion.

dreed
03-26-2010, 10:10 PM
Trailer is staying home as well, Just the necessities going. My partner will going it alone tomorrow. I am too sick and have school work to catch up on. Arkansas got the best of me.

Smoker'sLoungeBBQ
03-27-2010, 06:56 AM
Heading out in an hour or so; not competing, just coming to hang out. Looking forward to seeing/meeting some of you there!
Kevin

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 07:30 PM
Big Congrats to my neighbors Blazin Nutz on GC and Greg & Nancy of Purple Turtle for a hard fought RGC. Really still competition today and I was happy just to get er done! Blazin Nutz is on grilling fire!

Bob S
03-27-2010, 07:40 PM
Thanks Clint! We had a great time today. Coming away with the GC was awesome considering the competition that was there.
I'm exhausted and heading to bed soon. Looking forward to seeing everyone at Williepallooza.

Jason Perlow
03-27-2010, 07:58 PM
Here are my photos from Grillin' on the Bay 2010.

I accompanied Doug Keiles at Ribs Within (http://www.ribswithin.com) this year, so if you see any of your own entries and want to let me know who you are so i can identify them in my Off The Broiler (http://www.offthebroiler.com) post, please shoot me an email at jperlow@gmail.com

http://www.flickr.com/photos/offthebroiler/sets/72157623716244804/

Also, you may be interested in seeing the practice sessions we did for this event.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/offthebroiler/sets/72157623663477314/

Great to see everyone there.

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 07:59 PM
Overall

1 Blazin Buttz BBQ
2 Purple Turtle
3 Smokehouse Rules
4 Better BBQ Bureau
5 Ribs Within
6 Smoke In Da Eye
7 Wildwood
8 Beer Belly Porkers
9 Smokeopolis BBQ
10 2 Fat Pollocks
11 Uncle Jeds
12 Burnt Side Down
13 Fuhgeddaboutit
14 Jacked Up
15 I Smell Smoke
16 iQue
17 Heavy Metal Beach
18 XX Factor
19 A Grill Smokes in ???
20 Brother Mark BBQ
21 Three Men and a Rib
22 Richies Rib Shack
23 Garden State Porkers
24 Pearl Lee Q
25 The Moose is Loose
26 Ed Que Cators
27 Ma's Que Cruw

pigmaker23
03-27-2010, 08:17 PM
the ribs rocked the house

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 08:47 PM
the ribs rocked the house

And the #@!*# muffin pan chicken, even though it came in middle of the pack. Thanks for chippin in, Bobo! Good times.

motoeric
03-27-2010, 08:47 PM
On behalf of the BBQ Illuminati, I am hereby proposing that we remove Blazzin Nuttz from active competition and retire them to the Grilling Hall of Fame.

Enough is enough. These people are ringers.


Eric

Westexbbq
03-27-2010, 08:54 PM
Great day but we missed the rib turn in by 30 seconds, thus the dq, ergo the dal.:doh:
Congrats to the Nutz, the Turtles and it was good seeing the Pollacks back and showing well.:thumb:
Lots of good folks to see again after the long winter.:eusa_clap
Our saving grace was 9th place in Chef's Choice, thanks to the sawzall.:shocked:

pigmaker23
03-27-2010, 09:08 PM
who one ribs ?


And the #@!*# muffin pan chicken, even though it came in middle of the pack. Thanks for chippin in, Bobo! Good times.

MilitantSquatter
03-27-2010, 09:31 PM
Congrats Bob & Frank on another grilling GC victory !!!! Congrats to Nancee and Greg for the RGC as well.

Thought about coming down to visit, but temps in the low-mid 30's did not seem like ideal specatator weather..

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 09:49 PM
Ribs

1 iQue
2 Better BBQ Bureau
3 Smoke In Da Eye
4 Smoke House Rules
5 Blazin Buttz
6 2 Fat Pollocks
7 Jacked Up
8 Uncle Jeds
9 I Smell Smoke
10 Fuggedaboutit

And for chicken...Sausage stuffed #@#! muffin pan chicken!

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp15/SmokeInDaEye/CIMG2476.jpg

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 09:50 PM
Rib-sick-u-lous

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp15/SmokeInDaEye/CIMG2477.jpg

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 09:55 PM
Fish

1 Blazin Buttz
2 Better BBQ Bureau
3 2 Fat Pollocks
4 xx Factor
5 Pearl Lee Q
6 Ribs Within
7 I Smell Smoke
8 Uncle Jeds
9 Purple Turtle
10 Beer Belly Porker

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 09:57 PM
Chicken

1 Wildwood
2 Purple Turtle
3 Smokehouse Rules
4 Heavy Metal BBQ
5 Beer Belly Porker
6 XX Factor
7 Ribs Within
8 Blazin Nuttz
9 Burnt Side Down
10 A Grill Smokes in Brooklyn

SmokeInDaEye
03-27-2010, 10:01 PM
Chefs Choice

1 Purple Turtle
2 Ed Cue Cators
3 Beer Belly Porkers
4 XX Factor
5 Smokeopolis
6 Blazin Buttz
7 Smokehouse Rules
8 Ribs Within
9 Ma Que Crew
10 Smoke In Da Eye

Smoker'sLoungeBBQ
03-28-2010, 06:34 AM
Ribs

1 iQue
2 Better BBQ Bureau
3 Smoke In Da Eye
4 Smoke House Rules
5 Blazin Buttz
6 2 Fat Pollocks
7 Jacked Up
8 Uncle Jeds
9 I Smell Smoke
10 Fuggedaboutit

And for chicken...Sausage stuffed #@#! muffin pan chicken!

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp15/SmokeInDaEye/CIMG2476.jpg

These look like giant swedish meatballs!
Congrats to Frank and Bob on a well deserved GC! Thanks for letting me hang with you guys and watch you rock it!

nancee
03-28-2010, 09:30 AM
I would probably not recommend using rasberry chipotle sauce on ribs at a contest...

nancee
03-28-2010, 09:32 AM
thanks Vinny. It was very cold in the am but at least the sun was bright and it was not windy like last year. Great seeing everyone.

Frank Sacco
03-28-2010, 03:07 PM
What a day yesterday was! I was nervous going into this competition, there was alot of great cooks/chefs competing. To get first place call in fish was amazing, Bob and I never cooked fish before in a competition setting. We bounced around a few ideas and Bob fired up his grill at home and executed a great salmon dish. That's what we stuck with!
Many thanks to our family and friends who stopped by to support us.
Clint, amongst all the teasing and fun we have on the Brethren. You're a hell of a guy, I look forward to cooking along SIDE you in the future.
Purple Turtle (Nancee and Greg) you folks rock!
We'll see you all at Williepalooza!

Jacked UP BBQ
03-28-2010, 05:00 PM
I had a lot of fun at the comp. Clint, I will tell you why your chicken got 14th place, it was too creative. I learned something huge about grilling comps after this weekend. Like kcbs comps, once you find that one winning dish, go with it! I truly believe if they put creativity as a judging cat, it would be a whole new ball game. Congrats to blazin buttz, you guys kick ass in grilling!

SmokeInDaEye
03-28-2010, 08:57 PM
I had a lot of fun at the comp. Clint, I will tell you why your chicken got 14th place, it was too creative. I learned something huge about grilling comps after this weekend. Like kcbs comps, once you find that one winning dish, go with it! I truly believe if they put creativity as a judging cat, it would be a whole new ball game. Congrat to blazin buttz, you guys kick ass in grilling!

Yeah, grilling contests are always kind of a cr@p shoot. Was good to just hang out with ya'll, the Nuttz, Jed, and our other neighbors plus get a quick rib practice in! Here's my untouched up surf-in-turf with bourbon and brown sugar sweet potatoes.

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp15/SmokeInDaEye/CIMG2479.jpg

Jason Perlow
03-28-2010, 10:27 PM
I had a lot of fun at the comp. Clint, I will tell you why your chicken got 14th place, it was too creative. I learned something huge about grilling comps after this weekend. Like kcbs comps, once you find that one winning dish, go with it! I truly believe if they put creativity as a judging cat, it would be a whole new ball game. Congrats to blazin buttz, you guys kick ass in grilling!

You know, I have to agree with this. I think the KCBS judges they are using in the NY competitions don't come from enough of a culinary background. I'm considering going though the four hour course just so I can throw a wrench into this establishment and show them that not all KCBSers are a bunch of philistines.

I cannot for one minute believe that Ribs Within's Chef's Choice entry did not come within the top 5. Anyone who is unable to appreciate a hollowed-out bacon grease cornbread filled with morel mushroom grits (polenta) topped with tender smoked shortrib meat in a red wine sauce is culinarily clueless. That was one of the most creative entries in any competition I have ever seen and probably would rate very high on any New York City BBQ restaurant menu as an appetizer.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4451122652_f08caea5c9.jpg

motoeric
03-28-2010, 11:03 PM
You know, I have to agree with this. I think the KCBS judges they are using in the NY competitions don't come from enough of a culinary background. I'm considering going though the four hour course just so I can throw a wrench into this establishment and show them that not all KCBSers are a bunch of philistines.


You might change your mind if you took a look at the photos from the grilling portion of the Battle of the BBQ Brethren events. There has been some amazing food put out there and the judges rewarded them for it.

Eric

Jason Perlow
03-28-2010, 11:19 PM
You might change your mind if you took a look at the photos from the grilling portion of the Battle of the BBQ Brethren events. There has been some amazing food put out there and the judges rewarded them for it.

Eric

Considering I took about 1500 of them and cherry picked the best ones, yeah.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/offthebroiler/sets/72157623716244804/

ique
03-29-2010, 08:25 AM
You know, I have to agree with this. I think the KCBS judges they are using in the NY competitions don't come from enough of a culinary background.

I cannot for one minute believe that Ribs Within's Chef's Choice entry did not come within the top 5.

Agree it is surprising that the dish wasnt in the top 5, but I disagree with your conclusion that it is due to lack of culinary background.

The numeric assignment is obviously an inexact science. One table may all agree that the Ribs within entry was the best thing they tasted all day. And award it 7's and 8's. Another table may award the best thing they tasted all day 8's and 9's. I'm not sure that culinary training really changes this dynamic.

Jason Perlow
03-29-2010, 08:30 AM
Agree it is surprising that the dish wasnt in the top 5, but I disagree with your conclusion that it is due to lack of culinary background.

The numeric assignment is obviously an inexact science. One table may all agree that the Ribs within entry was the best thing they tasted all day. And award it 7's and 8's. Another table may award the best thing they tasted all day 8's and 9's. I'm not sure that culinary training really changes this dynamic.

As someone who has sat on judging panels for other food events I can definitely tell you that there is usually one or two dominant personalities that can sway the opinions of the group because they all talk about each dish together. The dominant personality may not have the objectivity and may have pre-set notions of what is good or isn't, and may not have the culinary chops to truly evaluate what they are eating.

goodsmokebbq
03-29-2010, 08:32 AM
As someone who has sat on judging panels for other food events I can definitely tell you that there is usually one or two dominant personalities that can sway the opinions of the group because they all talk about each dish together. The dominant personality may not have the objectivity and may have pre-set notions of what is good or isn't, and may not have the culinary chops to truly evaluate what they are eating.

KCBS judging is not panel style, in fact judges are not allowed to talk until the scores are on paper...

Edit: NEBS judging is done the same way

Jason Perlow
03-29-2010, 08:37 AM
KCBS judging is not panel style, in fact judges are not allowed to talk until the scores are on paper...

Edit: NEBS judging is done the same way

Who is proctoring to make sure this is actually happening the way it is supposed to?

Jacked UP BBQ
03-29-2010, 08:39 AM
I am not sure that it has anything to sdo with lack of judging abilities. It has a lot to do with what is common. I will bet that 7 of the top ten fish entries did Salmon with BBQ sauce on it, I am sure it was great, but if you throw something in out of the ordinary, like KCBS you will not be rewarded. Chefs choice, I would also bet that 9 out of 10 turned in bbq steak or shrimp. I am not saying the food wasn't good, but that is the norm and like KCBS, once you find it you will do good. I am going to test my theory next grilling comp and do what I believe is the norm and just hit it with BBQ sauce. I did have a lot of fun there and will be back next year, just a completely different set of recipes!

Jacked UP BBQ
03-29-2010, 08:40 AM
Who is proctoring to make sure this is actually happening the way it is supposed to?

Table captains

ique
03-29-2010, 08:40 AM
As someone who has sat on judging panels for other food events I can definitely tell you that there is usually one or two dominant personalities that can sway the opinions of the group because they all talk about each dish together. The dominant personality may not have the objectivity and may have pre-set notions of what is good or isn't, and may not have the culinary chops to truly evaluate what they are eating.

No talking allowed at KCBS type judging tables.

ique
03-29-2010, 08:44 AM
I am not sure that it has anything to sdo with lack of judging abilities. It has a lot to do with what is common.

This is why grilling contests can be an even bigger crap shoot. In KCBS at least there is some standard, bbq style pork ribs for instance. The judges know what to expect. When it is wide open like chefs choice there is a lot more variability in the scores.

Jacked UP BBQ
03-29-2010, 08:47 AM
Most of our scoring was crazy. I don't have it in front of me, but most of them were three great scores, like 989 and three scores like 454, shows how subjective the scoring is. Next time it is BBQ steak for me!

Jason Perlow
03-29-2010, 08:47 AM
I am not sure that it has anything to sdo with lack of judging abilities. It has a lot to do with what is common. I will bet that 7 of the top ten fish entries did Salmon with BBQ sauce on it, I am sure it was great, but if you throw something in out of the ordinary, like KCBS you will not be rewarded. Chefs choice, I would also bet that 9 out of 10 turned in bbq steak or shrimp. I am not saying the food wasn't good, but that is the norm and like KCBS, once you find it you will do good. I am going to test my theory next grilling comp and do what I believe is the norm and just hit it with BBQ sauce. I did have a lot of fun there and will be back next year, just a completely different set of recipes!

This is certainly entirely possible. I did try a bunch of the fish dishes and noticed just about everyone did Salmon with traditional style BBQ sauces with slight variation, including the team I came with to watch.

One team which I forgot the name of which I took photos of did a really nice, perfectly cooked salmon with an herb/mustard sauce which I had a chance to sample. I'm not sure how high they placed.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4468573878_0aa303e132.jpg

Jacked UP BBQ
03-29-2010, 09:28 AM
We did Mahi, with a meyer rum coconut and vanilla bean glaze, with a hint of cilantro. The fish could not have been cooked better and the flavor was outstanding. This could have been served in a fine dining establishment. It did take 11th place, but I believe if we replaced in with perfectly cooked slamon with bbq sauce, we would have placed better.

SmokeInDaEye
03-29-2010, 10:03 AM
We did Mahi, with a meyer rum coconut and vanilla bean glaze, with a hint of cilantro. The fish could not have been cooked better and the flavor was outstanding. This could have been served in a fine dining establishment. It did take 11th place, but I believe if we replaced in with perfectly cooked slamon with bbq sauce, we would have placed better.

My scores were the same as yours with some great and some awful at the same table. Its tough though when you have a real foodie sitting next to the guy that sends back his steak at Lugers because its pink inside.

I did miso marinaded chilean seabass that as anyone who tasted it can attest to was like butter! I came in 20th but when I did did salmon last three years it was top 3 twice and top 10 the other. I changed it because I was bored with salmon.

The 10th place chefs choice pictured above was a whole beef filet stuffed with smoked lobster, finished with a black garlic and parsley compound butter, sliced and served with bourbon and brown sugar sweet potatoes and a sour cherry and red wine reduction. Two years ago I came in 1st or second (don't have the score sheet) with cheese burgers.:rolleyes:

Jacked UP BBQ
03-29-2010, 10:10 AM
Clint, thanks for helping me prove my point. Next year we are going to do the comp and we made a deal. Beside ribs, we have a $10 budget per category to see how we can do it. Salmon will make it in that amount. Salmon with Old Bay and BBQ sauce!

chopshop
03-29-2010, 12:25 PM
Clint, thanks for helping me prove my point. Next year we are going to do the comp and we made a deal. Beside ribs, we have a $10 budget per category to see how we can do it. Salmon will make it in that amount. Salmon with Old Bay and BBQ sauce!

i think next year we should do chicken breasts stuffed with rainbow gummie worms and rubbed with sour apple pop rocks. sure to get the taste buds crackin

SmokeInDaEye
03-29-2010, 01:19 PM
If anyone is interested, here's first place chicken.

http://twitpic.com/1bsbcg

And just so everyone is clear, I am not complaining about anything here. I've competed in this event 4 out of its 5 years, won it once, and have a great time regardless of how cold or hot it is or how I do. I changed up my game this year to meet the growing level of professional and amateur competition at this and other grilling events and was happy to finish 6th in this field.

Grilling is not as cut and dry as the KCBS 4 but that's what makes it fun for me. And for Blazin Nuttz to go 3-for-3 in recent grilling contests is a tremendous accomplishment.

Sledneck
03-29-2010, 05:58 PM
Came across these someplace. Clint, i thought the muffin pan chicken looked pretty good against the others

SmokeInDaEye
03-29-2010, 08:29 PM
Came across these someplace. Clint, i thought the muffin pan chicken looked pretty good against the others

That's pretty cool. Thanks, Sled. Two out of four of my entries in three pix. I've never actually seen what a judges table looks like!

Jacked UP BBQ
03-30-2010, 07:59 AM
Nice pics sled, none are mine!

lunchlady
03-30-2010, 10:39 AM
What a fun day! Congratulations to GRAND CHAMPIONS Blazin' Buttz!

...and to Purple Turtle for taking Reserve! Welcome Back!
Great job against a tough field of competitors.

I had some thoughts I wanted to share ...

I believe over $4000 dollars was raised for the St. Mark's School sports program, so thank you, everyone, so much !!!!!
Once again, you all stepped up. :clap2:

I sampled a couple of entries from almost every category, and most were very good... (at the leftover table, well after they were judged)
... SIDE's Chef's Choice, the mahi, a couple of delicious ribs...
On the other hand, I tasted some that should have been great... but fell short...
fantastic-looking salmon, but when I ate it it was NOT cooked... :roll:
moist, flavorful chicken breast, with cartilage... :shocked:
delicious, smoky, well-cooked ribs... that missed the turn-in window...
... best of intentions, just not executed...

I guarantee you the judges did not talk to each other while judging any entries. The reps were very diligent about this, and the table captains did a great job.
The 'culinary backgrounds' of the judges is as diverse as the competitors they are judging... from firemen to tech guys to restaurant owners.
Question for discussion... would you rather have judges that have been instructed and are experienced in the particulars of this scoring system, or would you rather have people with a culinary background who maybe aren't as understanding of the challenges of competing in this environment? In my experience, the 'VIP foodies' are MUCH tougher judges.
To anyone who has not judged or has not witnessed judging, please try to sometime. It is a completely different perspective, and any advantage that can give you, as a competitor, is a good thing.

Competing in or judging broad categories can be difficult.
I personally loath "Beef of any kind"... I'd prefer "rib-eye" or even "burger". Narrowing it down somewhat levels the playing field, at least in my mind, although some organizers would argue, vehemently, that categories such as "fish steak" squelch the cook's creativity.
But, regardless of what we all think and like, it is ultimately up to the organizer to pick and clearly define the categories. GOTB did a great job with this as there weren't very many questions leading up to the event, and no disqualifications (besides missing the turn-in window).

Kudos to the 'organizer who shall not be named', :tape:, for keeping his cool when the venue turned out to be TRIPLE-booked ... and for presenting a candle-studded birthday 'cake' to all those whose birthdays fell on this weekend.
Happy Birthday Sully, Gregg and Sandra!!!

Jacked UP BBQ
03-30-2010, 01:06 PM
Michelle,

I do agree with most of your points. The only thing that comes to concern in my thoughts of grilling is the lack of creativity and people who put a lot in usually get punished for it. Grilling comps for us in addition to KCBS events are fun, we go out and get low price ingredients and just do it for fun and usually place pretty well. When we think outside the box we get hammered. I truly think for grilling comps creativity should be part of the scoring or make things more specific like beef category. If you cannot be creative in grilling comps and be successful at all, I really have no interest in doing them. I am not saying that the food that won was not good, it probably was great, but how does bbq shrimp beat lets say, ribs withins entry which was perfectly cooked? Seems very subjective to me. I will be back to brooklyn next year because it is fun, but we are going to spend no more then 10 bucks per category.

As far as judges being culinary critics, I would be happy to cook for them.

MAsQue
03-30-2010, 01:15 PM
Great day but we missed the rib turn in by 30 seconds, thus the dq, ergo the dal.:doh:
Congrats to the Nutz, the Turtles and it was good seeing the Pollacks back and showing well.:thumb:
Lots of good folks to see again after the long winter.:eusa_clap
Our saving grace was 9th place in Chef's Choice, thanks to the sawzall.:shocked:

I think there should be a special prize for creative use of a power tool in any category. If you enjoyed our Sawz-All Beef Ribs in Brooklyn, wait until you try our Pneumatic Torque Wrench Chicken at Willie-Palooza!

LunchLady: Thanks for the compliment on the ribs. I'm obviously getting too old to do broken field running through a packed parking lot like I used to.

Smokenstein & monster crew
03-30-2010, 08:09 PM
Sorry we missed out on the day.....We were down & out with the flu.
No risk in getting anyone else sick/ or the judges....
Kudos to everyone out there in the chilly weather, congrats to all winners.
Pictures look great & creativity in high gear

Read all the posts..
Everything is subject to opinion, cooking, movies, music---everyones got one. So while some like it, others wont...the luck of the draw & the numbers. I think the 10 $ idea is awesome.......

I love it it when you watch the bbq shows & see the snail smokers (garbage can smoker, with the stick temperature measuring device) beat out the 20 thousand dollar smokers----THATS CLASSIC, like Rocky vs Apollo.........like they say sh** happens

Tuna sandwich first place---- King crab legs last place

See you/ meet you at williepaloooooza

Frank Sacco
04-07-2010, 10:45 PM
http://netny.net/currents/video/stories/chili-chops-and-catholic-education-4610/

Video highlights of the comp.